159220 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) Anyone know when OR make their announcements? I am hoping for the HST Mk3 in VTec/LNER and FGW. Edited January 14, 2019 by Andy Y Topic title edited Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bendall Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Its usually the first day of the London toy fair, which is Jan 22nd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan70000 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Haven't Hornby just announced a run of HST Mk3s in the livery requested? It would be exceptionally silly for Oxford to go head to head with Hornby... again. Since there hasn't been a 2019 Oxford speculation thread, I'll start the guessing game: LNER Quad-Art Coaches An LNER area 0-6-0 of some description L&YR 27 Class 0-6-0 Come on Oxford, give us something to be excited about! Last year's announcement was frankly underwhelming especially for a new company struggling to establish itself. Still, I think the N7 might be a game-changer. A well detailed model with no *glaring* errors and for a reasonable price point. I can definitely see a niche for Oxford in tackling subjects that the bigger manufacturers might shy away from. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted January 13, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2019 A Terrier . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted January 13, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) Haven't Hornby just announced a run of HST Mk3s in the livery requested? It would be exceptionally silly for Oxford to go head to head with Hornby... again. The Hornby releases (some train sets / packs excepted) are modernised Mk3s fitted with retention tanks and automatic doors! Such coaches are NOT suitable to represent anything other than the short GWR / Scotrail services or the Cross country HST rake. They are totally useless for anyone wanting to model the 9 coach GWR HST services in the pre 800 era say. Thus a release of slam door fitted Mk3s in GWR, etc livery would not be competing with anybody! Edited January 13, 2019 by phil-b259 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLPG Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Hopefully another mid sized tank Locomotive an A5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NXEA! Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) It could be an LMS loco. Their first locomotive releases have been GWR Dean Goods, SR Radial, LNER N7, so something from the LMS is only fair I'd say. Maybe a new 2P? Edited January 13, 2019 by NXEA! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 Its usually the first day of the London toy fair, which is Jan 22nd. Thank you for the date, I shall remember to pay attention then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Can the OP put a question mark in the title of this thread since the OP wants to know when Oxford Rail is announcing their 2019 range? The title seems to suggest that this thread contains the actual announcement for the Oxford Rail 2019 range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 The Hornby releases (some train sets / packs excepted) are modernised Mk3s fitted with retention tanks and automatic doors! Such coaches are NOT suitable to represent anything other than the short GWR / Scotrail services or the Cross country HST rake. They are totally useless for anyone wanting to model the 9 coach GWR HST services in the pre 800 era say. Thus a release of slam door fitted Mk3s in GWR, etc livery would not be competing with anybody! What point are you trying to convey in your post? The ex-VTEC/LNER ones announced by Hornby are not the Mk.3 sliding-door variant. If Oxford announce those, that will be unnecessary duplication. No one has mentioned GWR either. The OP asked for FGW coaches. GWR and FGW are two separate TOCs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2019 A Terrier . Or maybe a GWR Large Prairie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 . Considering Oxford's boss dual role in Hornby, IF I were of a nasty piece of commercial work I would wait to see what was announced by Bachmann today and duplicate the most commercially attractive one and concentrate on getting it out first. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Class 66 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 The opening pitch for Oxford Rail included 'planned full range'. Hopefully we will see some progress toward that. Obvious observations would be: Mk3 coaches, no suitable traction, pre-group Scottish wagon design, no suitable traction or brake van, Radial and N7 tanks, none of the passenger stock that both were best known for operating with. It's only the Dean goods with GW design brake van, and a small assortment of steam era wagons in the range, from which an 'all Oxford Rail train' might be formed. It could be an LMS loco... Among steam locos that would seem likely to complete a 'round' of the big four. All the numerous BR standard classes have models, but there's a slew of pretty numerous pregroup classes that finished up on the LMS going begging, (and there are a couple of significant classes that were the LMS' own designs lacking models come to that). I would tend toward a tank engine on past form (difficult to find any virgin territory on the GWR, thus the pick of an 0-6-0 with only a very dated model) and a Caley 0-4-4T looks like an open goal to me. Wonderful pre-group livery, numerous and long lived with a degree of celebrity. (Much the same applies to the very successful LT&SR 4-4-2T designs, which continued to be built by the LMS, but their erstwhile fame does seem to have faded somewhat.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottrains29 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I think a class 86 would be good. The OxfordRail Image for the Virgin Mk3 coaches shows them hauled by a class 86. Could this be hinting at their next loco? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I think a class 86 would be good. The OxfordRail Image for the Virgin Mk3 coaches shows them hauled by a class 86. Could this be hinting at their next loco? I reckon so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted January 14, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2019 What point are you trying to convey in your post? The ex-VTEC/LNER ones announced by Hornby are not the Mk.3 sliding-door variant. If Oxford announce those, that will be unnecessary duplication. No one has mentioned GWR either. The OP asked for FGW coaches. GWR and FGW are two separate TOCs From the pictures (which I grant you are not necessarily 100% accurate) the VTEC/ LNER Ml1s are of the previous 'Railroad esque tooling - no close coupling mechanism for example. This compares with the new tooling developed by Hornby for the sliding door fitted Ml3s which do seem to have a CCM arm mounted on the body and more underframe detail at the ends. Compare https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2019/new-for-2019-coaches/lner-mk3-trailer-first-open-tfo-41120-era-11.html and https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2019/new-for-2019-coaches/scotrail-mk3-sliding-door-ts-era-11-c8c8ec.html Therefore Oxford could quite easily issues a 'super detailed' Slam door Mk3 in VTECC / LNER livery and not be in direct competition with Hornbys 2019 range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Oxford rail have now 4-5-6 & 7 plank wagons, think they are comming with an 8 plank now, because Bachmann's 2019 releases of them ar now 21.21 pound discount price. So Oxford rail can make lots of money with them, if they sell it for 11,- -12,- pound, and the detailed underframes of all those wagons are much better than Bachmann's. Maybe a 1or 3 plank too, could also make money. Maybe a goods van and an small LMS tender or tank engine that will be under 100,- pounds. and more livery's of existing models. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) Having looked at previous years random announcements, my guess would be a Liverpool and Manchester Railway open passenger coach, Tinsleys load bank B1 Tender, weathered and a new Railway Operating Group class 93. Edited January 14, 2019 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2019 Class 66 GWR 14xx/48xx. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 The Hornby releases (some train sets / packs excepted) are modernised Mk3s fitted with retention tanks and automatic doors! Such coaches are NOT suitable to represent anything other than the short GWR / Scotrail services or the Cross country HST rake. They are totally useless for anyone wanting to model the 9 coach GWR HST services in the pre 800 era say. Thus a release of slam door fitted Mk3s in GWR, etc livery would not be competing with anybody! And would provide the needed coaches to expand the Hornby GWR set! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2019 It could be an LMS loco. Their first locomotive releases have been GWR Dean Goods, SR Radial, LNER N7, so something from the LMS is only fair I'd say. Maybe a new 2P? A Johnson 2F 0-6-0 or a Stanier 2-6-2T please. The Johnson 2F could be as big a minefield as the Dean Goods due to its life of over 80 years. so they may wish to steer clear. The Stanier 2-6-2T on the other hand shares the same wheel sizes and spacings as the previous Fowler version. Start with the standard boiler Stanier with dome and topfeed, then continue with combined dome/topfeed, domeless. and the larger boiler carried by four locos. For the Fowler you have the standard boiler, with and without Pull-Push gear and 20 conderser fitted locos. The Fowler locos were built between 1930 and 1932, originally carrying number 15500 - 15569 then being renumbered 1 - 70. Going into BR they got mixed traffic livery early/late, but on the way some were plain black with BRITISH RAILWAYS and at least 40070 had the BR number applied to its LMS livery in LMS-style figures. Stanier locos numbered 71 - 209 were added from 1935 to 1938. As far as distribution is concerned, between them they got virtually everywhere that the LMS reached, with pictures in London including the Widened Lines, Hither Green and Clapham Junction, Bath Green Park, Bristol, Swansea, North Wales, Leeds and the far north of Scotland. So we end up with at least seven potential body variations and plenty of potential liveries across a group of 209 locos with a life span of 25 - 32 years and a wide operating area. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) Maybe a 1or 3 plank too, could also make money. Maybe a goods van and an small LMS tender or tank engine that will be under 100,- pounds. and more livery's of existing models. They sometimes seem to have gone a bit quirky so how about a GWR 51/2 plank Open on a decent 10' underframe and a 'Reverse' Stanier brake van like the one at NRM. They should also be able to knock spots off Bachmann's LMS 10T van. and BR cousin. Clasp brake, push brake and unfitted options available to go at, so plenty of scope including Army livery. I'll take six assorted in BR 1950s state to pension off my Ratio/Airfix/Dapol hybrids. Meanwhile I'll leave the stash of Parkside chassis where they are. Edited January 14, 2019 by TheSignalEngineer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2019 Even more 'off the wall'. What about doing the Dean Goods snow plough as a separate item then I could produce Tyseley's ' Streamlined Pannier' https://flic.kr/p/2cCUHmM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted January 14, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) I rather think the steam is running out of the Oxford Railway range, wouldn’t be surprised if no new announcements. Last year was a bit of a disappointment not being a fan of big guns. Not exactly mainstream.Also, although not as lengthy as Bachmann there development times are fairly long .I’d be more interested in Hattons Edited January 15, 2019 by Legend 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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