Butler Henderson Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Looks like the scrap box for a brass/wooden one I picked for a couple of quid some years back; I only discovered the roof was wooden when it split when I picked it up one day, caving in and severely bending the brass ends - has been on the must fix list; now its on the must buy list! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvrnut Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Engineering samples are depicted in Hornby's latest edition of The Engine Shed ! Cheers, Chris 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) With this LSWR "new" brake van and the SR Bulleid 59' coaches someone at Hornby has been reading my mind's wishlist for almost completing in RTR the rolling stock component of the North Cornwall of my dreams. Do we even have an annual wishlist poll anymore. I think I am going to have to switch to modeling 1920 in Wick or Thursoe and the Highland line so I can have anguished wishlist dreams again. Edited June 24, 2019 by autocoach 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTH&G25B Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Evening all, know this is a long shot but I was wondering if anyone could help with this. I’m purchasing one of Hornby’s lswr new vans and the plan is to number it as ‘55072’ as it was based in Manchester for departmental work, and is sort of local for me. Since the van will be in it’s lswr livery I’m trying to find out what number ‘55072’ would have carried whilst in that livery. If anyone knows I’d be extremely grateful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted August 29, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) LSWR numbering of the "New Vans" seems to have been pretty much random, which suggests that they inherited the numbers of the old ones they replaced. There is no formula, therefore, for working out the LSWR number from the SR one or vice versa. A few examples are quoted in Volume One of An illustrated History of Southern Wagons (OPC) but, unfortunately, your chosen van is not one of them. There is no discernible pattern, not the van bearing the lowest LSWR number receiving the lowest in the SR series, nor even order of age. That probably means they were renumbered in the order they got repainted into SR livery. However, somebody, somewhere, may well have a full list and the most likely source would be the South Western Circle. Failing that, whatever number is on your model (unless it's in the list in the OPC book) is as likely to the one that became 55072 as any other, so I'd suggest leaving well alone until someone who does know points out what it should be. John PS. It occurs that an SR van would only have got into Engineers Dept. work in Manchester well into BR days, so you should really get one in BR livery. Edited August 29, 2019 by Dunsignalling PS 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTH&G25B Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 56 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said: LSWR numbering of the "New Vans" seems to have been pretty much random, which suggests that they inherited the numbers of the old ones they replaced. There is no formula, therefore, for working out the LSWR number from the SR one or vice versa. A few examples are quoted in Volume One of An illustrated History of Southern Wagons (OPC) but, unfortunately, your chosen van is not one of them. There is no discernible pattern, not the van bearing the lowest LSWR number receiving the lowest in the SR series, nor even order of age. That probably means they were renumbered in the order they got repainted into SR livery. However, somebody, somewhere, may well have a full list and the most likely source would be the South Western Circle. Failing that, whatever number is on your model (unless it's in the list in the OPC book) is as likely to the one that became 55072 as any other, so I'd suggest leaving well alone until someone who does know points out what it should be. John PS. It occurs that an SR van would only have got into Engineers Dept. work in Manchester well into BR days, so you should really get one in BR livery. Thanks for that appreciate it, I’ll definitely be having a look into that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Hattons have just informed me that R6911 LSWR goods brake van 9646 is now due between December 2019 and January 2020. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Very slow boats from China....and I thought it was "just crost the bay".... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Other items are slipping too - yesterday Hattons advised that the"New Century Bar" (R4904) isn't expected 'til November. Oh - and to get back on topic - I'm still waiting for the announcement of a Warner van in post '36 livery let alone a delivery date for it ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold greatcoleswoodhalt Posted September 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) Project update in today's Engine Shed with decorated samples: - https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/news/the-engine-shed/lms-lswr-brake-vans-new-samples Edited September 27, 2019 by jafcreasey 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 It looks to be a lovely model. very nice interior. However, now that we are starting to get wagons and coaches with tail lamps, isn’t it time that brake vans were so equipped as well? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted September 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2019 Only a matter of time before brake vans are DCC ready... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted September 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, No Decorum said: It looks to be a lovely model. very nice interior. However, now that we are starting to get wagons and coaches with tail lamps, isn’t it time that brake vans were so equipped as well? Really? So how much do you want to pay for them? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Been done. The old GWR brake van had a tail lamp in 1976. http://www.hornbyguide.com/review_details.asp?reviewid=119 Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 15 hours ago, Islesy said: Really? So how much do you want to pay for them? A fair question. We all want our stuff as cheap as possible and as good as possible; probably we want them cheaper and better than practical. I notice that the new Hornby LMS and LNWR brake vans have a rounded RRP of £23 and £25 respectively. I’d be prepared to part with an extra £10, perhaps even £15, for a neat job. At least with brake vans, whole trains of them don’t have to be bought. Hornby has been concentrating recently on producing good stuff at reasonable prices (I expect howls of dissent at that comment) such as its Mk. IIfs and Terriers. One choice we are offered is a Hornby Mk. IIf, done to a decent standard or a more expensive Bachmann one or an even more expensive Bachmann one with many lighting options. For what it’s worth, I have a couple of Spotrail Hornbys which I plan to supplement with Bachmann ones with the lighting options. That is just my approach. If I were Hornby, I would wait to see how the market reacts to the choice offered rather than react to a twit dreaming at his keyboard. It is not lost on me that Hornby seems to have been doing rather well by producing stuff early and undercutting competitors. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 13 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: Been done. The old GWR brake van had a tail lamp in 1976. http://www.hornbyguide.com/review_details.asp?reviewid=119 Jason So also did an LMS one. I have an ancient one with a huge red lens behind which is a box for a bulb. The tooling was used but bulb and pick ups were omitted. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted September 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, No Decorum said: A fair question. We all want our stuff as cheap as possible and as good as possible; probably we want them cheaper and better than practical. I notice that the new Hornby LMS and LNWR brake vans have a rounded RRP of £23 and £25 respectively. I’d be prepared to part with an extra £10, perhaps even £15, for a neat job. At least with brake vans, whole trains of them don’t have to be bought. Hornby has been concentrating recently on producing good stuff at reasonable prices (I expect howls of dissent at that comment) such as its Mk. IIfs and Terriers. One choice we are offered is a Hornby Mk. IIf, done to a decent standard or a more expensive Bachmann one or an even more expensive Bachmann one with many lighting options. For what it’s worth, I have a couple of Spotrail Hornbys which I plan to supplement with Bachmann ones with the lighting options. That is just my approach. If I were Hornby, I would wait to see how the market reacts to the choice offered rather than react to a twit dreaming at his keyboard. It is not lost on me that Hornby seems to have been doing rather well by producing stuff early and undercutting competitors. I certainly wouldn't baulk at paying an extra £15 for brake vans with factory-fitted working lights, i.e. tail and side lamps. Conditional upon them not being horribly over-bright, of course.... As you point out, goods brakes aren't something we need great fleets of, and many are difficult to dismantle in order to retro-fit lamps. John Edited September 28, 2019 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Verth Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 During the early 1960's the pick up freight at Hampton rarely had less than 7 brake vans, 4 at one end and 3 at the other, this went on for some time. It is the reason I have a passion for brake vans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted September 28, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 28, 2019 23 hours ago, JohnR said: Only a matter of time before brake vans are DCC ready... Some already are: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 On 28/09/2019 at 11:47, No Decorum said: So also did an LMS one. I have an ancient one with a huge red lens behind which is a box for a bulb. The tooling was used but bulb and pick ups were omitted. I forgot about the old LMS brake van. I only ever had Airfix LMS ones. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 On 28/09/2019 at 14:30, Robin Verth said: During the early 1960's the pick up freight at Hampton rarely had less than 7 brake vans, 4 at one end and 3 at the other, this went on for some time. It is the reason I have a passion for brake vans. ..... but crucially only one of those vans would have had lamps fitted ................ if anyone wants DCC lamps they'd have to disappear completely when not in use and not just extinguish. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 7, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Wickham Green said: ..... but crucially only one of those vans would have had lamps fitted Indeed, a detail lost on the guard of the 02.30 Norwood to Willesden nearly 50 years ago. The signalman at Clapham B sent Stop and Examine to Latchmere Junction, as the 4 spare brakevans were each carrying full sets of lit lamps. Very pretty, no doubt, but! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Right Away Posted October 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2019 New bell code required - "Train passed with many tail lamps"!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Would you look at that.. On 28/09/2019 at 05:15, JohnR said: Only a matter of time before brake vans are DCC ready... Hattons have just announced they're doing coaches that are 21-pin DCC ready. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelixM Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Jack P said: Hattons have just announced they're doing coaches that are 21-pin DCC ready. In the relevant thread it is said they are 18-pin DCC ready, not 21-pin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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