Wickham Green Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Whose going to take a stab at getting sound in that? If the wagon chassis is basically a standard moulding it should be possible to fit a bigger body if necessary ....................... hang on, don't Hornby already do a DCC sound van ??!? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium pete_mcfarlane Posted January 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2019 I'm now wondering how many people on Rmweb have built models of DS1169. (Mine is the A! kit with a RT Models chassis) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium HillsideDepot Posted January 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2019 Didn't foresee... Don't need.... Must have! A prototype question, if I may. What sort of haulage capacity would a real one have? I'm not expecting (or wanting too much), but with several private siding ideas churning around my mind at the moment I don't want to do something with too much traffic for such a small shunter. I can use my Sentinels for "busy" layouts, this needs, not a restful life, but less intensive plan. Or am I wrong? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Didn't foresee... Don't need.... Must have! A prototype question, if I may. What sort of haulage capacity would a real one have? I'm not expecting (or wanting too much), but with several private siding ideas churning around my mind at the moment I don't want to do something with too much traffic for such a small shunter. I can use my Sentinels for "busy" layouts, this needs, not a restful life, but less intensive plan. Or am I wrong? It can probably manage a conflat ( without container ) ........ but make sure the pickups aren't dragging ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ruston Posted January 7, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2019 Didn't foresee... Don't need.... Must have! A prototype question, if I may. What sort of haulage capacity would a real one have? I'm not expecting (or wanting too much), but with several private siding ideas churning around my mind at the moment I don't want to do something with too much traffic for such a small shunter. I can use my Sentinels for "busy" layouts, this needs, not a restful life, but less intensive plan. Or am I wrong? Haulage capacities at the bottom. (click on pic for full size) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium HillsideDepot Posted January 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2019 Haulage capacities at the bottom. (click on pic for full size) 48DSleaflet.jpeg.jpeg Thank you, very useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverRowley Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 The wagon has pickups and is plugged in to the loco with a tiny 2-pin plug. From the pictures it looks like the plug is also at the front Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestTom Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I note that two of them are liveried for Scottish distillers. I wonder if Hornby made note of the number of Scottish-based layouts that include a distillery, or if they had an eye on complementing their J36... Funny, the last time we had a ready-to-run Ruston diesel shunter, it was the Trix example, which also came with a shunter's truck. I guess it's a tradition. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 7, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2019 Didn't foresee... Don't need.... Must have! A prototype question, if I may. What sort of haulage capacity would a real one have? I'm not expecting (or wanting too much), but with several private siding ideas churning around my mind at the moment I don't want to do something with too much traffic for such a small shunter. I can use my Sentinels for "busy" layouts, this needs, not a restful life, but less intensive plan. Or am I wrong? "Churning" may be appropriate, UD at Chard Junction used to shunt loaded milk tanks around with their 48DS. Up to four or five at a time IIRC. John 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin242 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Delighted to see this as i preserved a real one from Croppers Paper Mill and Tramway at Burneside in Westmorland. Happily its still around earning a living. With Windermere station now with all the track in and working and well underway the temptation to add Burneside station next will be very great. https://www.facebook.com/Windermere.Hincaster.Junction.a.00.Model.Railway/ 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin242 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Haulage capacities at the bottom. (click on pic for full size) 48DSleaflet.jpeg.jpeg I used mine to shunt two Black5's at Steamtown Carnforth. Stopping them with just a lever handbrake was exciting to say the least as we headed towards the main line connection to the barrow line!! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 From the pictures it looks like the plug is also at the front Having a quick look a the pictures, the front 'plug' looks more likely to be a cutout for the NEM coupling to me. From the pictures, it looks to me like the wire for the wagon pickups might actually enter the chassis in the middle and the wire is long enough to reach the wagon at either end of the loco, perhaps with a cutout on the bottom of the chassis to route the wire unobtrusively. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 You could also put one on a main road. Derby Road, Liverpool. Not far from Bank Hall. Photo Wiki Commons. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4360078,-2.9950715,3a,60y,297.51h,89.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHuzkXJS8ovvd0kr4SJ73pQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 Jason 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium maq1988 Posted January 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2019 Thank you! I'm off to pre-order the open cab 'ARMY' version with the intension of having it resprayed. Would be nice to see what the haulage and performance of it is like, especially without the 'pickup' wagon. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted January 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2019 So this could be out before the 7mm scale Little Loco Co. Version at its current rate of progress. And $300 cheaper! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverRowley Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Having a quick look a the pictures, the front 'plug' looks more likely to be a cutout for the NEM coupling to me. From the pictures, it looks to me like the wire for the wagon pickups might actually enter the chassis in the middle and the wire is long enough to reach the wagon at either end of the loco, perhaps with a cutout on the bottom of the chassis to route the wire unobtrusively. Ahh okay I see what you mean now. Would make an interesting project 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I wonder if they've thought of doing the same with the Caley Pug? Would be prototypical (with a coal load) I think the idea of a "pickup wagon" is one that could usefully be extended to other small locos as a potential standalone product. The GWR shunters wagon would be an obvious candidate - maybe it's time for Hornby to re-tool their own version of that. And, as you say, a coal wagon or other generic flatbed wagon would be equally suitable. It would, of course, require appropriate locos to be fitted with a "pickup socket" that the wagon can plug into. But, just as DCC sockets and NEM pockets are now standard, there's no reason why that can't be rolled out gradually with every new release. And it would probably be a relatively simple after-market conversion to add one in most cases. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2019 I wonder how well it would work without the match truck? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I love this little loco, i having one of these, and what a left field move by Hornby. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Oh sod it just when I resolve never to buy Hornby again they do this I wonder if they will be ok, love them, wonderful little things, will need at least two! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) Here one working. https://youtu.be/KSn8NN-CYs0?t=13 https://youtu.be/TnFItOiomeU?t=4 Edited January 7, 2019 by darren01 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 7, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) Please think about this one in 2020... Express Dairy in Morden was by all accounts a landmark. A set with a few of Oxfords apprpriate road vehicles would be nice. https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/Miscellaneous/Industrial-railways-South/i-bxnt45L As of course would be a milk tank wagon. Edited January 7, 2019 by adb968008 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Please think about this one in 2020... Express Dairy in Morden was by all accounts a landmark. A set with a few of Oxfords apprpriate road vehicles would be nice. https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/Miscellaneous/Industrial-railways-South/i-bxnt45L As of course would be a milk tank wagon. That's a fantastic photo, thanks for posting the link. Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 7, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2019 I think the idea of a "pickup wagon" is one that could usefully be extended to other small locos as a potential standalone product. The GWR shunters wagon would be an obvious candidate - maybe it's time for Hornby to re-tool their own version of that. And, as you say, a coal wagon or other generic flatbed wagon would be equally suitable. It would, of course, require appropriate locos to be fitted with a "pickup socket" that the wagon can plug into. But, just as DCC sockets and NEM pockets are now standard, there's no reason why that can't be rolled out gradually with every new release. And it would probably be a relatively simple after-market conversion to add one in most cases. They already use something very like it to feed between locos and the DCC socket mounted in their tenders. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 7, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) Whose going to take a stab at getting sound in that? I've seen the American equivalent of a Wickham trolley in N (no match truck) with DCC sound using a mobile phone speaker so it should be a doddle if one is that way inclined.... Edited January 7, 2019 by Dunsignalling 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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