michaelp Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I am interested to know if anyone can identify the crane and wagons in the photo and also if this type of crane or something similar is available in 4mm. Many thanks to David Ford for posting the photo for me Thanks in advance Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted September 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 9, 2018 I am interested to know if anyone can identify the crane and wagons in the photo and also if this type of crane or something similar is available in 4mm. Many thanks to David Ford for posting the photo for me Thanks in advance Michael No photo. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) This is the photo Michael. I was meant to post it as soon as Michael posted the request but I got involved in something else. . Cambois May 81 C5389 David Edited September 9, 2018 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Pretty certain the underframe of the runner wagon came from an LMS Long Low wagon. It has the same W-irons with an extra 'leg' on the inner side. https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lmstube/h5afdb4e0 shows the sort of thing I mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelp Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) Pretty certain the underframe of the runner wagon came from an LMS Long Low wagon. It has the same W-irons with an extra 'leg' on the inner side. https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lmstube/h5afdb4e0 shows the sort of thing I mean. Thanks Brian, yes I see where you mean. Do you have any ideas about the crane? I had a look on Paul Bartlett's web site but didn't find anything. Michael Edited September 9, 2018 by michaelp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 The crane is either incomplete, or a hand crane - its a bit difficult to tell which, the end of the jib looks a bit Taylor & Hubbard shaped to me. like this one https://bestieboy.smugmug.com/Trains/Cranes/i-KfQVnGs Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Forgive me my pedantry, but is the four wheeled wagon actually a runner wagon? It looks like a fairly conventional twin bolster carrying a load that has nothing to do with the crane - it looks like part of a conveyor system to me. The actual runner wagon for the crane is the bogie vehicle, which matches those with the Taylor and Hubbard cranes on the preserved lines on the bestieboy site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Forgive me my pedantry, but is the four wheeled wagon actually a runner wagon? It looks like a fairly conventional twin bolster carrying a load that has nothing to do with the crane - it looks like part of a conveyor system to me. The actual runner wagon for the crane is the bogie vehicle, which matches those with the Taylor and Hubbard cranes on the preserved lines on the bestieboy site. The bogie wagon looks as though it is either a GWR-built Macaw, or the BR-built Bolster C. You're correct, I suspect, about the ex-LMS 4-wheel wagon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted September 10, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) This is the photo Michael. I was meant to post it as soon as Michael posted the request but I got involved in something else. c Cambois May 81 C5389.jpg. Cambois May 81 C5389 David There was, (a few months ago?), on the Dave F's photos thread, a photo of a similar sized crane in transit to or from Cambois. The caption stated that it was used in the maintenance of the staithes, and the load on the LONG LOW wagon appears to be a section of an elevator or something similar. Regards, John Isherwood. Edited September 10, 2018 by cctransuk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Nice to see that elderly Double bolster - but nowt to do with the crane. The crane appears to be manual, with a bogie bolster C runner - look at the big weight box at the far end. The north east had two of these DB967397 http://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/967397 http://www.ontrackplant.com/otp/967394 Look in https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/otpcranesetc for the cranes and runners. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/otpcranesetc/e1e5092b8 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/otpcranesetc/e87e6538 Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelp Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 Thank you to all for the help and web site links. Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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