royaloak Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) A train has caught fire at it arrived at plymouth station, the Fire Brigade arrived quickly and have extinguished the blaze, the less said aout the Police reporter the better- https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/train-fire-plymouth-railway-station-1690137 Believed to be 43056 and 144 (the one on fire) working 1C96 2003 Paddington to Plymouth. wrong info. Edit- This shows the level of reporting- One emergency worker source said it was lucky the train had not entered the tunnel under Mutley Plain, where it would not have been accessible to fire crews. “I dread to think of the consequences,” they added. The train had actually already gone through Mutley Tunnel because it is arriving at Plymouth station, absolutely pathetic 'drama queen' reporting, the consequences are the driver would have continued through the tunnel until arriving at a suitable location where the \fire Brigade would have access and the passengers could be evacuated if needed, it looks like they have stopped with the front of the train in the platform (so passengers could be evacuated) but the back of the train clear of the platform so the fire brigade have unhindered access and there is no danger of the station catching fire, quick thinking from the driver. Edited June 19, 2018 by royaloak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted June 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19, 2018 That's (at least) the second HST power car fire in the past few months..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19, 2018 Police say a “cargo train” is thought to have caught light - not a passenger service. Plymouth Live’s Max Channon, at the scene, said the incident looked like an engine fire. Devon and Cornwall Police say they are “trying to ascertain what kind of cargo [it is] and whether its flammable or not,” adds crime reporter Carl Eve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Reported elsewhere as 3C93 / 43181. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pb_devon Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Reported elsewhere as 3C93 / 43181. 43181..... Devonport Royal Dockyard 1693-1993. I was at the naming in Plymouth Station all those years ago. Sigh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pb_devon Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 43181..... Devonport Royal Dockyard 1693-1993. I was at the naming in Plymouth Station all those years ago. Sigh. Just to clarify....the event I attended was in 1993, not 1693 !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19, 2018 That's (at least) the second HST power car fire in the past few months..... I wonder if it's one that's due to go to Scotland or stay in the West Country? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pb_devon Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) I wonder if it's one that's due to go to Scotland or stay in the West Country? I seem to recall that it is to go north (someone correct me if my recollection is wrong), and I wondered if it would be denamed. Though the plates were never re-attached after a works visit some years ago. Reported elsewhere that the fire was in the battery box. Edited June 19, 2018 by pb_devon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdlcs Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 A train has caught fire at it arrived at plymouth station, the Fire Brigade arrived quickly and have extinguished the blaze, the less said aout the Police reporter the better- https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/train-fire-plymouth-railway-station-1690137 Dramtic (sic) video footage too, no less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 It's as though the news reporting on this is in the hands of primary school children. Utterly pathetic and irresponsible nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rab Posted June 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 19, 2018 So passengers are treated as cargo now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted June 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 19, 2018 Are they flammable though? It is stunning how atrocious the 'journalism' is on that article, although I accept it's more a random timeline than an actual article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steadfast Posted June 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 19, 2018 So passengers are treated as cargo now!Self loading cargo! Jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted June 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19, 2018 Are they flammable though? It is stunning how atrocious the 'journalism' is on that article, although I accept it's more a random timeline than an actual article. I refer the Honourable Gentleman to my reply contained in Post #219 on Page 9 of the NRM Rebranding thread. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/133656-nrm-rebranding-railway-museum/page-9&do=findComment&comment=3174999 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 Dramtic (sic) video footage too, no less. At least a train reported as on fire is actually on fire this time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted June 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19, 2018 It's as though the news reporting on this is in the hands of primary school children. Utterly pathetic and irresponsible nonsense. 'Plymouth Live' they're called - never heard of 'em before. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific231G Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) Are they flammable though? It is stunning how atrocious the 'journalism' is on that article, although I accept it's more a random timeline than an actual article. I don't know what sort of news organisation the Plymouth Herald is but assume that PlymouthLive is the online feed that most newspapers offer nowadays. These typically offer breaking stories but you have to buy the paper to get the full considered report. To be fair to him, the editor who seems to have been handling the live coverage, was simply quoting what police and emergency workers were saying as the situation unfolded and was careful to report those as quotes not as facts.An emergency worker apparently did say that it was lucky the train hadn't entered the tunnel. The editor wouldn't know that the worker had got the wrong end of the stick nor that the police had misinterpreted a train without passengers as a "cargo" train. If that's what they told the editor that's what he quoted. It would be interesting to see the report in the Plymouth Herald this evening. For what it's worth this was the BBC's report this morning "A train engine caught fire at Plymouth Railway Station on Monday night. Flames were seen from the station at 23:35 and it was quickly confirmed there were no passengers or cargo on board the train. Officers said the fire had started in the battery of the train's diesel engine, and the cause of the blaze was thought to be accidental. "Damage was contained to the battery bay and there was approximately 5% damage in total to the train," said Devon and Somerset Fire and Rescue Service. No disruption to services on Tuesday is expected." I suppose you could ask news media to report nothing till they get an official statement or even wait for the RAIB report a year or so later but the public expect immediate coverage and presumably accept that it will be raw and unconfirmed. Edited June 19, 2018 by Pacific231G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Might this be the first non-collision damaged class 43 to be scrapped (i.e. repairable but non-economic in the circumstances)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted June 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19, 2018 'Plymouth Live' they're called - never heard of 'em before.The old Birmingham Mail website used to be quite good but has now been dumbed down to a Twitter feed standard of reporting headed 'Birmingham Live'. I assume that the Plymouth rag is owned by the same firm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Simon Lee Posted June 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 19, 2018 So passengers are treated as cargo now! Used to be known as perishable with tickets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 20, 2018 Used to be known as perishable with tickets. Or the phrase Jo used - self loading freight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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