RMweb Gold Ruston Posted May 30 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 30 22 hours ago, TurboSnail said: I'm thinking of trying out using steel plate for the footplate on a future model which might help. I would use brass rather than steel. Engraving brass is far easier to work and is also heavier than mild steel. I use 40 thou. (1mm) thick engraving brass with a layer of 18 thou. cartridge brass to make loco running plates. Make the thin layer slightly wider than the main one so it looks like a plate and valance from the side. If you cant solder the layers together you can always use Araldite type glues. 8 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSnail Posted May 30 Author Share Posted May 30 Brass would be better, I agree - I mentioned steel purely because I can get suitably-sized offcuts from work! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TurboSnail Posted June 30 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 30 Some further experiments with transfers on this wagon (apart from the smaller white lettering, which was from a HMRS pressfix sheet), this time done on white transfer paper using a laser printer, with no varnish over the initial print (it has been varnished once applied to the wagon). Very pleased with how these have kept colourfast after dunking and how well they have wrapped around the contours of the model with the aid of a bit of micro-sol (it's not easy to see in this photo, but in real life you can still see the planking lines), so I think I'll move onto something a bit more ambitious next! 13 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSnail Posted July 4 Author Share Posted July 4 And here is that more ambitious project! Of course, I got the dimensions slightly wrong, but the transfers have come out fairly well, I wasn't happy at first but after a coat of varnish the painted boiler and the printed transfers colour match looks much better. I haven't lined the frames either, I think I'd rather have them plain than do a bad job of lining them. A couple of jobs to finish up, then this one can go in the cabinet (it doesn't run brilliantly, so probably won't feature on the layout much). I should probably also look at finishing that rake of coaches to go with it... 12 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Now that's a contraption! My memory is short. Is that loco another print of yours? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSnail Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 1 hour ago, AlfaZagato said: Is that loco another print of yours? It is - from a very long time ago. I think I printed it about 3 or 4 years ago, then left it for a long time as the chassis didn't work well (which often puts me off finishing a model) and I didn't really know how to do the lining. At least I've now solved one of those problems! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSnail Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 A train about four years in the making - I think I started the Second Sondes in 2019, and the LCDR coaches sometime in 2020, and I have given up on both multiple times, consigning them to the cupboard for years at a time. But I'm calling them done for now, there are bits and pieces I could do (e.g. coach footboards and brakes, loco brakes and crew etc.) but I've decided to leave them as static models for the time being as I have no real reason to run these on an industrial shunting layout, and getting the loco chassis working and fixing the bearing issues on the coaches were some of the things putting me off finishing the livery and detailing. So there we go, two big projects out of the unfinished pile, and a train that will make a nice addition to my display cabinet. 13 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 I could use those !!!! Do you know, there is a Sondes Street three streets down from where our model railway clubroom is in Walworth ? All the best Ray 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSnail Posted July 24 Author Share Posted July 24 3 hours ago, wainwright1 said: I could use those !!!! Do you know, there is a Sondes Street three streets down from where our model railway clubroom is in Walworth ? All the best Ray Named for Lord Sondes, an LCDR director, who seemed to be keen for a class bearing his name to not be left out of service with a reputation for terrible unreliability! They were then "rebuilt" from 4-4-0STs to the 2-4-0T that I have modelled, which bear a striking resemblance to several other Martley designs, so how much beyond the boiler was reused I don't know. More here: https://basilicafields.wordpress.com/2010/05/27/lcdr-locos-pt-1-second-sondes-martley-f-class/ 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted July 24 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24 On 23/07/2024 at 13:19, TurboSnail said: A train about four years in the making - I think I started the Second Sondes in 2019, and the LCDR coaches sometime in 2020, and I have given up on both multiple times, consigning them to the cupboard for years at a time. But I'm calling them done for now, there are bits and pieces I could do (e.g. coach footboards and brakes, loco brakes and crew etc.) but I've decided to leave them as static models for the time being as I have no real reason to run these on an industrial shunting layout, and getting the loco chassis working and fixing the bearing issues on the coaches were some of the things putting me off finishing the livery and detailing. So there we go, two big projects out of the unfinished pile, and a train that will make a nice addition to my display cabinet. They look amazing. Question. The Second Class compartments have an oil lamp over each one, but there are only two for the four First class. I would have thought it might be the other way round, or four oil lamps on the First Class, or am I missing something. (Who needs brakes? Nasty fiddly things to model. Much prefer my earlier stuff that does not have them.) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSnail Posted July 24 Author Share Posted July 24 2 hours ago, ChrisN said: They look amazing. Question. The Second Class compartments have an oil lamp over each one, but there are only two for the four First class. I would have thought it might be the other way round, or four oil lamps on the First Class, or am I missing something. (Who needs brakes? Nasty fiddly things to model. Much prefer my earlier stuff that does not have them.) Thankyou! The Second/Third brakes are as per the drawings I had for 1879/80 built birdcage brakes, the 4-comp First is as per a similar but undated drawing that shares the same panelling style and general dimensions so I'm going to guess that they were contemporary. The First class compt. dividing walls are not full height so two compartments can share one lamp - the only reason I can propose for the Second to have one lamp per compartment is that they couldn't neatly divide three compartments by two. The Third class brake and 5-compt. don't have dividing walls between compartments, so can share lamps more readily - however, I should confess that the 5-compt. Third is actually a fabrication on my part - built using the same panels and ends as the brake Third to make up something plausible and balance the number of seats per class on the train a bit better. I think something similar was very likely to exist so I don't feel too bad about making it up! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted July 24 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24 23 minutes ago, TurboSnail said: Thankyou! The Second/Third brakes are as per the drawings I had for 1879/80 built birdcage brakes, the 4-comp First is as per a similar but undated drawing that shares the same panelling style and general dimensions so I'm going to guess that they were contemporary. The First class compt. dividing walls are not full height so two compartments can share one lamp - the only reason I can propose for the Second to have one lamp per compartment is that they couldn't neatly divide three compartments by two. The Third class brake and 5-compt. don't have dividing walls between compartments, so can share lamps more readily - however, I should confess that the 5-compt. Third is actually a fabrication on my part - built using the same panels and ends as the brake Third to make up something plausible and balance the number of seats per class on the train a bit better. I think something similar was very likely to exist so I don't feel too bad about making it up! Thank you for your explanation. On the Cambrian's early coaches the Third Class did not have full height compartments so, like yours had two lamps per 5 compartments, but composites, and probably Firsts had full height divisions. There must have been a 5 compartment Third, it certainly looks the part. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 17 hours ago, TurboSnail said: Named for Lord Sondes, an LCDR director, who seemed to be keen for a class bearing his name to not be left out of service with a reputation for terrible unreliability! They were then "rebuilt" from 4-4-0STs to the 2-4-0T that I have modelled, which bear a striking resemblance to several other Martley designs, so how much beyond the boiler was reused I don't know. More here: https://basilicafields.wordpress.com/2010/05/27/lcdr-locos-pt-1-second-sondes-martley-f-class/ There is also a Bonsor Road in Camberwell (Cosmo Bonsor ?), not far from Sondes Street. Neither of these are near any railway. Interesting coincidence ? All the best Ray 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Burnham Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 On 25/07/2024 at 12:39, wainwright1 said: There is also a Bonsor Road in Camberwell (Cosmo Bonsor ?), not far from Sondes Street. Neither of these are near any railway. Interesting coincidence ? All the best Ray Henry Cosmo Orme Bonsor was a banker rather than a career railwayman. He was inter alia Treasurer of Guy's Hospital which isn't a million miles away from Camberwell. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSnail Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 Building up my later SR fleet, a newly painted S Class returns to its old haunts on the EKR, shunting a couple of the local colliery wagons. This uses a 3D printed body on a Bachmann C Class chassis, with wire handrails, various detail bits from the scrap bin and lead sheet added in the tank and smokebox. 12 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Collier Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Just needs reducing down to 'N' 😊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSnail Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 8 hours ago, Gareth Collier said: Just needs reducing down to 'N' 😊 I have thought about it, I could do with a larger N Gauge loco... Cheap Farish C Classes seem to be in shorter supply than their OO counterparts though. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Collier Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 (edited) 15 hours ago, TurboSnail said: I have thought about it, I could do with a larger N Gauge loco... Cheap Farish C Classes seem to be in shorter supply than their OO counterparts though. You can get all the chassis parts for the loco from Farish spares, I did a few months ago for another project. It came to under £70. Edited August 3 by Gareth Collier 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMKAT7 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Good evening TurboSnail, Your S class loco looks fantastic! Is the 3d print one of yours or A N Others? Are they for sale? Thanks in anticipation. Cheers, Nigel. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSnail Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 5 hours ago, GMKAT7 said: Good evening TurboSnail, Your S class loco looks fantastic! Is the 3d print one of yours or A N Others? Are they for sale? Thanks in anticipation. Cheers, Nigel. Thanks! In order: Yes, one of mine, and No, not yet Still got a couple of tweaks to make to the CAD, mainly where it secures to the chassis. But I'm hoping it will be available after that! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willl Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 That is a lovely model of an obscure type which i doubt we'll ever see RTR. If/when they become available to buy i'll definitely build one up. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSnail Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 My two OO Fireless locos are finally united on the industrial diorama I had grand plans to start a series of dioramas, and so far I have only progressed as far as making a second card base and 3D printing a wagon tippler. More to follow... eventually. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSnail Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 (edited) A d1553 10-ton brake, built at Ashford 1900, tails a coal train out of Guilford Colliery, EKR. I've had the CAD design sitting around for ages, and even built one of these before (then sold it), but now I've finally got round to building one for myself. It should really have "Goods" and "Brake" either side of the number but the transfers I had for that were too large to fit in between the uprights - livery seems to have varied quite a bit in the early days of the SECR anyway so I'm happy with it as-is. Edited September 3 by TurboSnail 14 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSnail Posted September 9 Author Share Posted September 9 I'm working on another diorama, which was originally meant to replicate part of the Kempton Park water treatment site, where they had an embankment and wagon tippler feeding the coal via a conveyor system to the boiler house for the main pumping engines. That ambition has been reigned in somewhat and the diorama demoted to an "inspired by", as I don't have space to fit two tracks, or any practical way to replicate the adjacent ash plant, or a simple way to get the right buildings in the background from the right angles. Starting to test fit the parts together, with the trackbed taking shape and a low building behind the tippler as the control room. The tippler frame should probably be concrete or RSJs, but I had the wood to hand so went with that. Trying to work out whether the right hand side is too steep to have an embankment, so I might need to put a retaining wall in front there instead. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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