number6 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 These have to be the most vanilla of all Brighton locos. They did have lovely names for a while though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Edwardian Posted June 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2018 Improved Engine Vanilla? No sooner has the announcement been made than people are asking for other versions/classes! A healthy degree of interest, I suppose, but forgive me if I concentrate on the good news that we will have an E1. The E1R would seem to require a fairly significant conversion; not only is there a trailing wheel, but the frames are longer at the rear. If someone was interested in an E1X, on the other hand, I imagine that a 3D Print or resin-cast body could be produced to fit in the chassis, as the bulk of an E1X is no doubt greater than that of the production body it would replace. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 E1x is set to be on my list, as was the E1. I'll probably do the E1 as a low-cost alternative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardLong Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Following on from the news that there will soon be some decent Terriers available, this is excellent news for someone like me who only buys IOW models 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) I wonder if the IOW did any special modifications like they did for the O2? The only alterations made to the Island E1's was that the driving wheels were rebalanced, between 1933 and 1936 at Ryde works for passenger work, otherwise no outward changes were made. The main reason for their transfer to the Island was freight work as the Terriers were restricted to a maximum of 10 full wagons on coal trains from Medina Wharf, and with the upgrading of the track in the mid 1930's, more powerful locos were needed. Edited June 5, 2018 by bike2steam 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 80 seems like quite a lot when you consider there were only 10 E2s =) Looking forward to these, what a time to be a South East / Central steam modeller =) when I got back in to the hobby a few years ago there were comparitevly very few items to do a decent mid war Brightonian layout, now look... Keep 'em coming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2018 80 seems like quite a lot when you consider there were only 10 E2s =) Quite. Yet both Trix and Hornby picked the E2, presumably because it is chunkier, probably easier to mould, and may have had a similar wheelbase to an existing model. And while there were 10 E2s, there were only 5 each of the long and short tank variations. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 80 seems like quite a lot when you consider there were only 10 E2s =) Looking forward to these, what a time to be a South East / Central steam modeller =) when I got back in to the hobby a few years ago there were comparitevly very few items to do a decent mid war Brightonian layout, now look... Keep 'em coming Just needs someone to bring out a nice 'K'. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big James Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) That’s the thing there was 80 to start off with like there was 85 0298 class. But by the 1950 -1965 period I model there was 30 E1’s by nationalision and 3 0298 class. Many classes of tank engines was worked down in numbers during nationalisation. Now hopefully an E1/R and H16 at some point. But I know I’m being greedy. Big James. Edited June 5, 2018 by Big James 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 Nah, someone to bring out a nice G Class Single just to p*** off the BR fans! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Nah, someone to bring out a nice G Class Single just to p*** off the BR fans! But if you want a G Single then there are at least two kits. Of which this is probably the best one. http://www.mjwsjw.co.uk/stroudley_singles.html Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Edwardian Posted June 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2018 That’s the thing there was 80 to start off with like there was 85 0298 class. But by the 1950 -1965 period I model there was 30 E1’s by nationalision and 3 0298 class. Many classes of tank engines was worked down in numbers during nationalisation. Now hopefully an E1/R and H16 at some point. But I know I’m being greedy. Big James. Ah, I see your problem; you model the wrong period! Fortunately, the problem is easily solved! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 I hate that when someone suggests a model steam engine it gets poo pooed because 'it didn't make it to the b****y BR era' Let's look at the flip side, why make a 9F if it can't be used in the grouping or pre grouping eras! 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 I wonder if it would be better to do W2 as BR early crest and W4 as SR? This would allow one model to tie in with the sole preserved example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) I’m struggling to believe it ...... it’s not April, is it? If someone had told me when I first became a railway modeller that one day you would be able to buy an rtr Terrier I’d have been sceptical; an E1 I simply wouldn’t have believed. It’s not exactly a class with a big fan-base outside of quite diehard Brightonians, and the uninitiated tend to mistake them for Terriers anyway. Good on ‘em for this; that’s what I say. Edited June 5, 2018 by Nearholmer 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 Now there's a thought... "Model Rail bringing out this 1600 is so niche - I mean it can only be used on some BR Western and Scottish era layouts! It was only a small class, I mean only 70 were built! Who would want a loco that didn't even carry a pretty livery, I mean that's unthinkable! We take it for granted these days that a model spanned all eras, so why should they produce this! It's not available in a pre-grouping livery, I'm infuriated!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 It is certainly refreshing to read discussions about prototypes' early lives rather than the, until recently, usual case of threads being mostly about a prototypes' BR service. Could the tide finally be changing a little bit...? =) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardLong Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) I wonder if it would be better to do W2 as BR early crest and W4 as SR? This would allow one model to tie in with the sole preserved example.I might be wrong but I think when the IWSR acquired the E1 they stated their aim was to restore it to operational service as W2 in SR Maunsell green - in which case the model W2 should eventually tie-in with the preserved example. (I'd guess it's current BR black livery is just a temporary modification of the livery it was already carrying on arrival at Havenstreet.) Also, W4 was the last surviving IOW E1 and was still in BR early crest livery when withdrawn in 1960 so that might be a deliberate choice as well. Edited June 5, 2018 by RichardLong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted June 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) 80 examples? When you consider the LNWR had 943 DX Goods and built another 86 for the L&YR, then it's a miniscule class. Both in size and number. Jason I wasn’t aware that comparison with other railways was part of appreciating a newly-announced model. Let's not become obsessed by size.........bigger is not always better........you can have great fun with small ones....... Edited June 5, 2018 by NHY 581 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Let's not become obsessed by size.........bigger is not always better........you can have great fun with small ones....... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Now there's a thought... "Model Rail bringing out this 1600 is so niche - I mean it can only be used on some BR Western and Scottish era layouts! It was only a small class, I mean only 70 were built! Who would want a loco that didn't even carry a pretty livery, I mean that's unthinkable! We take it for granted these days that a model spanned all eras, so why should they produce this! It's not available in a pre-grouping livery, I'm infuriated!" Bring on the Hawksworth 15xx 0-6-0PT 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KymN Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 At last, a Southern locomotive in which I have no interest. Or perhaps it is all too much, finally. In the words of the Bard: "Give me excess of it; that surfeiting, The appetite may sicken, and so die." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) I might be wrong but I think when the IWSR acquired the E1 they stated their aim was to restore it to operational service as W2 in SR Maunsell green - in which case the model W2 should eventually tie-in with the preserved example. (I'd guess it's current BR black livery is just a temporary modification of the livery it was already carrying on arrival at Havenstreet.) Also, W4 was the last surviving IOW E1 and was still in BR early crest livery when withdrawn in 1960 so that might be a deliberate choice as well. Believe me, it's all been very carefully thought out and well researched. I haven't been involved in that aspect but I believe that the surviving 'E1' has numerous 'private owner' mods including a 'wrong' boiler, so is only of limited use in researching the model. Any version to represent the loco as restored in the future would represent how we are told it is going to look. The 'E1' model is still some way off, as it is intended for release in 2020. (CJL) Edited June 5, 2018 by dibber25 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) . The 'E1' model is still some way off, as it is intended for release in 2020. (CJL) Given the year on year price increases and Rapidos high level of quality, by then, could we be looking at a £150 tank loco? Edited June 5, 2018 by JSpencer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big James Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 2920 excellent enough time to save then. Big James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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