LNERGE Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I'm looking for pictures of distant banner repeaters. I have just acquired one but it is not arranged as expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted May 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2018 Isn't there one outside the north end of Blea Moor tunnel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I'm looking for pictures of distant banner repeaters. I have just acquired one but it is not arranged as expected. Ignoring the modern LED-based versions, there were two types of banner distants. I would have expected the "black with fishtail on white" type to be a simple copy of the normal banner repeater, it would obviously have been possible to have incorporated slotting if there were a normal banner repeater above but, in my view at least, that would have been expensive overkill (which was generally avoided in the old days). There was also a type of banner distant which was an actual distant mounted below a semaphore stop arm - the Southern was fond of them at the entry to long tunnels - and these were yellow painted with a black chevron and black background; these obviously did have to be slotted with the stop signal mounted above them, although the examples I remember were motor-worked which made this easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 This may well be one of the SR banner type distants.. Today's banner is a banner repeater.. The fishtail is the wrong way round. There a weight at the bottom right at the pointed end of the fishtail. It was meant to be this way up and this way round. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted May 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2018 Are you sure the bottom one is supposed to be mounted from the too such as under a canopy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 Are you sure the bottom one is supposed to be mounted from the too such as under a canopy? The weight on the point of the fishtail would pull the arm off not assist it back on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted May 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2018 Isn't there one outside the north end of Blea Moor tunnel https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Blea_Moor_Tunnel_mouth_-_geograph.org.uk_-_328680.jpg 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Richard, is this any use? Distant Reapeter once at Gylberdyke. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted May 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2018 The fishtail is the wrong way round. There a weight at the bottom right at the pointed end of the fishtail. It was meant to be this way up and this way round. Designed to be viewed as if viewing the signal from the rear ? - i.e. it's acting as an arm repeater for staff other than drivers, so nearer to the box rather than further out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Grovenor Posted May 28, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 28, 2018 The fishtail is the wrong way round. There a weight at the bottom right at the pointed end of the fishtail. It was meant to be this way up and this way round. Is that the back view of an externally illuminated one? The glass looks a bit frosted which suggests the rear glass. Similar to the Gilberdyke one where the external lamp can be seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted May 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2018 (edited) Isn't there one outside the north end of Blea Moor tunnel Not any more, it’s now a 3 aspect signal (double yellow/green) as there isn’t enough room between the single yellow and stop signal should it be on Edited May 28, 2018 by big jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted May 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2018 No, it’s a 3 aspect signal (double yellow/green) It is since the resignalling but it used to be a distant banner. http://www.foscl.org.uk/scrca/structure-summary/250780 - scroll through the list for the modern distant and the previous banner. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 The weight on the point of the fishtail would pull the arm off not assist it back on. Is it possible it's a lower quadrant that's been put back together wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share Posted May 29, 2018 I've had it apart and i'm convinced it is the right way up and has not been interfered with. It has a serial number plate that suggests LMR or ScR regions and what was left of the still attached external wiring had labels that suggest it repeated 17 signal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share Posted May 29, 2018 Richard, is this any use? Distant Reapeter once at Gylberdyke. SYX Banner at Gylberdyke.jpg Thanks Mick that is what i thought i was buying one like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 This may well be one of the SR banner type distants.. IMG_0868.JPG Yes it is (unless it was another company's with the same purpose) - good to see that one has survived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share Posted May 29, 2018 Yes it is (unless it was another company's with the same purpose) - good to see that one has survived. It works rather nicely. Quite slow in operation and even a bounce when it goes 'on' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Grovenor Posted May 30, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 30, 2018 No comment on my suggestion? Is it internally lit or externally lit? If the latter then the glasses may have been swapped so the clear glass is on the wrong side. If the former then its a puzzle unless the internals can be installed in mirror image. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 No comment on my suggestion? Is it internally lit or externally lit? If the latter then the glasses may have been swapped so the clear glass is on the wrong side. If the former then its a puzzle unless the internals can be installed in mirror image. Regards This is an externally lit banner. I have three SYX banner signals in use at home and have encountered numerous other examples on my travels both as an observer of signals and maintainer. This one is arranged as i would expect it to be with clear(ish) glass at the front and opaque glass to the rear. The original cabling was still attached when i acquired it and i have no reason to suspect anything has been altered since it's recovery. So far it has baffled all who have seen it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 There is a banner under the canopy in this shot of King's Lynn.. https://www.flickr.com/photos/110691393@N07/24072846721 I have this banner also and as can be seen it is mounted the right way up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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