Nick G Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 26 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: Unless everything is taken in the same light, at the same time, with the same camera, with the same settings, processed with the same software, viewed on the same monitor, you can tell nothing. Roy And the same photo viewed on different monitors/laptops will look different as they are all calibrated differently. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted December 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Nick G said: And the same photo viewed on different monitors/laptops will look different as they are all calibrated differently. Which is why I mentioned monitors ;-) Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Just now, Roy Langridge said: Which is why I mentioned monitors ;-) Roy Fair enough I was just clarifying 'different' monitors! rather than 'monitor' which you mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators AY Mod Posted December 20, 2019 Administrators Share Posted December 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, DRS Crewe On A Mission said: This is incorrect and it explains why the Colas orange on the Hattons 66s is too dark and thus incorrect. That means nothing. It is the equivalent of me saying it's 7 degrees today and you saying it's 44 degrees. Different scales, same weather. Please cease that line of argument. 2 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted December 20, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, AY Mod said: That means nothing. It is the equivalent of me saying it's 7 degrees today and you saying it's 44 degrees. Different scales. Please cease that line of argument. Hi Andy, I was just saying and making a comparison of what I have seen between the different photos in relation to the Colas orange. I was interested to know if the Colas orange is correct. If Dave says that it is then I will trust him. Thank you. Kind Regards, Danny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators AY Mod Posted December 20, 2019 Administrators Share Posted December 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, DRS Crewe On A Mission said: I was just saying and making a comparison of what I have seen between the different photos in relation to the Colas orange. No, you were saying Pantone and RAL colours are different. The colour is the same, just different nomenclature. Which is why I was asking you to stop that line of argument, but you've carried on. Do it again and I'll just remove access to the topic. 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stock_2007 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Its a little late to be finding things wrong with the livery their in the post! Mind you I'm still not sure about my pink 'One' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Steadfast said: I've never heard it called anything officially. To me it's known as the bit of metal that makes a monster racket when you drop the coupling against it! Makes a proper good noise like a gong. Jo Perfect, it shall be evermore known as “ the shedgong” 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted December 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, rob D2 said: Perfect, it shall be evermore known as “ the shedgong” I thought that was stock2007’s ‘pink one’ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold cambo74 Posted December 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2019 Think people just need to take a chill pill ..... every time a model comes out people are waiting to knock it .... The paint looks spot on to me ........ now lets move on and talk about something like ........ BREXIT ....... Its Christmas guys .... Ben 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, big jim said: I thought that was stock2007’s ‘pink one’ Nah, that’s the “shed d0ng “ Edited December 20, 2019 by rob D2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted December 20, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 20, 2019 The model looks fine to me. As a photographer I am aware of the way colour appears in different photographs. Also, calling on my medical knowledge our individual perception of colour tone varies. So my perception of Orange or any other colour for that matter may be different from others. Add in the fact that there are many people with different degrees of colour blindness/eye problems and the permutations are endless. And to be frank nobody is forced to buy the model so instead of the pedantic nit picking just hold counsel and keep your wallet closed. The model is now being distributed so too late to change it unless you respray or weather. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAILRAGE Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, AlexHolt said: The paint shades are correct. The text/branding however is not, its either too small or its been positioned wrong. The orange/yellow diagonal is supposed to go through the L not the A as shown on the hattons picture posted further up. I can't find a single photograph of a Colas livery 66 that has it done the way hattons have done theirs. Thats quite clearly a mistake on their part, the colours however are factually correct. It does indeed go through the A (as mentioned earlier) but only on one side Cheers Trailrage Edited December 20, 2019 by TRAILRAGE fat fingers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris56057 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 The error in colour is what it is, if you're that bothered about it - get it resprayed. I'm really happy with how well these have come out - top marks to Hattons for getting them delivered before Christmas. Looking forward to receiving my 66789 over the next couple of days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted December 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, AlexHolt said: Well they've still done it wrong. The side shown on the hattons photo should be the same as the 2nd picture you linked. They've done the sides the same instead of different on each side. Guess its not a problem if you only view it from one side though. To settle this we need to see pictures of both sides of the Hattons 66 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted December 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2019 At least the Genesis coaches will not suffer from such errors. Well, not unless you have a train of them pulled by a Colas 66. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted December 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2019 I didn’t want to get into the whole ripping the loco apart before it’s even arrived but having driven the colas 66 for quite a number of years I have lots of pics of them and I think I can see the issue unfortunately photobucket is down so I’ll have to link to someone else’s flickr What was bugging me is the spacing for the ‘colas Railfreight’ lettering appears correct on both sides as the GHT is on the separate body panel but as we can see the orange/yellow colour intersection on the single grille side is out, as pointed out it should go through the L, going back to hattons dave’s pic a couple of pages back you can just about make out the orange at the bottom of the body shell finishes near as dammit half way between the 2 sandboxes, compare it to this picture...... copyright Robert on Flickr you can see the orange finishes nearer to the front sandbox, therefore I personally recon there is too much orange on that side 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAILRAGE Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, big jim said: I didn’t want to get into the whole ripping the loco apart before it’s even arrived but having driven the colas 66 for quite a number of years I have lots of pics of them and I think I can see the issue unfortunately photobucket is down so I’ll have to link to someone else’s flickr What was bugging me is the spacing for the ‘colas Railfreight’ lettering appears correct on both sides as the GHT is on the separate body panel but as we can see the orange/yellow colour intersection on the single grille side is out, as pointed out it should go through the L, going back to hattons dave’s pic a couple of pages back you can just about make out the orange at the bottom of the body shell finishes near as dammit half way between the 2 sandboxes, compare it to this picture...... copyright Robert on Flickr you can see the orange finishes nearer to the front sandbox, therefore I personally recon there is too much orange on that side Think you've got it spot on there. I hadn't noticed it was the angle of dangle in the wrong place! Cheers Trailrage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted December 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2019 As for the other side, the top of the A in colas should be in line with the body side joint where as the joint is between the L and A Still not going to stop me buying one though 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegleg90 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 At the end of the day, the model from what I’ve seen in the photos and at Warley looks fantastic and highly detailed. Hats off to the Hattons team for getting 2 of the 3 control option pre-orders flown in (at no additional cost to us) processed and at least shipped with a decent chance of getting them to the customers by Christmas! I suspect paint shades is probably one of the hardest things to get right and checked in the development stages over the actual engineering given monitors resolution, quality, lighting conditions etc etc that has been mentioned before. Regards Ali 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Looking forward to seeing people’s models here, as I cannot decide could I live with the tooling errors pointed out before. As for the Colas livery, looks OK to me...personally. Bit of fun below, spot the difference: Damn it! I genuinely now feel the Bachmann 66 isn’t all that bad! Starting to regret selling them all off to fund Hattons take. I genuinely do not know what to do. Livery application, that last attention to detail is important and clearly the Bachmann team win in that department. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) I think the issue is the font size.. rivet hat on.. the top of the letter “c” is 3 ribs from the start of the black above it, and the bottoms of the letters 3 are from the bottom. on the model It’s not clear how many ribs are above the “C” but it’s a lot more than 3 on both sides, but it’s correctly aligned on the 4th rib up. Edited December 20, 2019 by adb968008 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAILRAGE Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Personally I'm not in the market for these as i simply cannot afford to change again so sticking with my Bachmann models. I also have no interest in rubbishing the model either. Colours look good to me, its just the details wrong. Cheers Trailrage 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted December 20, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, adb968008 said: I think the issue is the font size.. rivet hat on.. the top of the letter “c” is 3 ribs from the start of the black above it, and the bottoms of the letters 3 are from the bottom. on the model It’s not clear how many ribs are above the “C” but it’s a lot more than 3 on both sides, but it’s correctly aligned on the 4th rib up. Having applied Colas decals (from two different suppliers) to 37, 47, 56, 60, 66, 67 and 70 and a couple of Mk1 barrier vehicles, I agree that there seem to be variations within the font weight/sizing/spacing. Although minimal,, the collective minor bits of milimetres add up over 16 letters and spacing 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted December 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2019 Well that's it then. As soon as my Colas liveried 66 arrives from Hattons, I'm not even going to open it, I'm going to send it back. Not! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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