No Decorum Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, JRamsden said: So, I received my 00 gauge Rails/Dapol Terrier in SR lined green No. 2644 today. I must say, what an exquisite model! Everything about it just seems very high quality and a huge step up from the old Hornby model. The details really pop and the colours (to my untrained eye) seem right and proper. HOWEVER... My version came with some cosmetic damages. The smokebox door handles had broken and were hanging off; it didn't take much for them to fall away completely. The front of the loco is also missing one of the sandboxes and feed pipe under the running board, left side. This appears to have snapped off at some stage but isn't inside the packaging. There is also some damage to the running board on one side, negligible to the naked eye, much more obvious under the lens. The actual items that are broken are curious because they are not items I would expect to get high levels of handling nor would they normally be that delicate. The nature of the breakages suggests that they happened prior to packaging and had nothing to do with the subsequent transport of the item. Indeed, the packaging is more than sufficient. I am waiting to hear from Rails. My first Rails Terrier arrived damaged. Rails replaced it promptly, paying for postage, and the replacement was spot on. I hope your experience is as good. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted September 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2020 Woof... I’m pleased to advise that my latest ex LBSC / SR A1x unlike a few of my recent Dapol purchases has arrived in one piece and runs straight out of the box... #phew #cute 13 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRamsden Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Graham_Muz said: Woof... I’m pleased to advise that my latest ex LBSC / SR A1x unlike a few of my recent Dapol purchases has arrived in one piece and runs straight out of the box... #phew #cute Absolutely stunning loco; it looks fab on the layout. Glad to see you got a good one! I've seen others that have also received fully complete versions and they all look amazing. I'm looking forward to getting my replacement and giving it a run! On 14/09/2020 at 14:11, No Decorum said: My first Rails Terrier arrived damaged. Rails replaced it promptly, paying for postage, and the replacement was spot on. I hope your experience is as good. So far the service has been prompt and faultless. They have assured me that they are checking the models that go out. Can't argue with that! Edited September 15, 2020 by JRamsden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Interesting to see how light effects the livery, the Southern lettering and number look totally different shades of yellow in the above 2 examples. Picking mine up from the post office tomorrow =D will be heading over to the parents' to give it a test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 On 08/07/2020 at 17:57, Oliver Rails said: Hi, Sorry for the delay in a response. Yes I can confirm that the DCC fitted and DCC sound fitted models are the initially released models are beginning to be despatched. These are fitted here in the UK by Dapol and therefore are arriving with us in small batches. Initially it is the black version which have arrived. We are processing orders in date order. The remaining models are still on track for delivery late July. Hi Olivier, Do you know when the remainder of the BR black 32655 sound fitted ones will be sent out? I see my order (March 2019) is still pending but all the plain 32655s have now sold out on your site. Thanks & Rgds John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 29 minutes ago, JSpencer said: Hi Olivier, Do you know when the remainder of the BR black 32655 sound fitted ones will be sent out? I see my order (March 2019) is still pending but all the plain 32655s have now sold out on your site. Thanks & Rgds John Oliver posted about them being slightly delayed on the last page or so. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 3 hours ago, JSpencer said: Hi Olivier, Do you know when the remainder of the BR black 32655 sound fitted ones will be sent out? I see my order (March 2019) is still pending but all the plain 32655s have now sold out on your site. Thanks & Rgds John On 06/09/2020 at 00:18, Oliver Rails said: Hi Jack, There is a slight delay in obtaining the sound fitted models. We have currently therefore removed the listing from our site so that we do not continue to take orders for them. This is why the link you have will not work. We are aiming to fulfil all outstanding sound fitted orders as soon as possible. I apologise for the delay. Thanks Oliver I asked a similar question, HTH 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) Picked mine up today, good news is it all appears to be intact, bad news is it appears to be drooping a little front left and back right but can't really notice from afar. I'll be honest if it wasn't pointed out on the first batch I wouldn't have looked out for it or noticed probably. :p I'll give it a test on the layout this evening =) Edited September 16, 2020 by GreenGiraffe22 Typo 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRamsden Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, GreenGiraffe22 said: Picked mine up today, good news is it all appears to be intact, bad news is it appears to be drooping a little front left and back right but can't really notice from afar. I'll be honest if it wasn't pointed out on the first batch I wouldn't have looked out for it or noticed probably. :p I'll give it a test on the layout this evening =) Amazing! I'm really pleased everyone else seems to be getting a top-notch version of this terrier - or close to. Mine must have been in the minority for this batch. Ultimately, I'm really pleased with the livery choice I made too. The green really sets off those copper/gold coloured fittings. Edited September 16, 2020 by JRamsden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) Quick review, here's some comparison shots against Hornby 's Some videos from my twitter, straight out the box running fine! Not handling some track as well as Hornby's which is disappointing ... And this was just for fun! Do I think it's worth the extra money? Eh not really, I think Rails over sold it, but do I love both models? Absolutely. I'll continue to buy Southern variants from both, who's gonna give me a wartime black one first? edit: I think Hornby's with some of Rails' details applied would be the ultimate Terrier. Edited September 16, 2020 by GreenGiraffe22 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Also took some cab comparison shots 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Hmmm, I think I prefer the shade of green on Hornby's. The Rails/Dapol one seems to be edging uncomfortably towards malachite 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Rails terrier seems to match Bachmanns E4 in shade which I think is more accurate than the Maunsell shade Hornby use on both their maunsell stock and loco's. I prefer the Hornby cab interior, while over nourished in terms of detail for the early loco's I think it's better than the under nourished cab in the Dapol terrier. I know the o gauge terrier was the same but they got the B4 cabs right and packed if detail so why skimp on the Rails Terrier? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) Worth pointing out the shades of green change dramatically in different lighting. There is a colour photo of the real 2644 looking a sort of dark malachite colour. Edit: The shade of Rails' looks different in every photo I take Edit 2: will be interested to see the final shade the SR D Class comes out in. Edited September 16, 2020 by GreenGiraffe22 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRamsden Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 I have to admit, now I see them side by side, the Hornby Terrier really does have some fine features. Some are noticeably better than the Rails version, particularly the cab interior. However those buffers just aren't right and were ultimately what swung me towards Rails. I'll probably end up with a Hornby version at some stage anyway, so who cares! 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I see the next Terrier has arrived at Rails - black BR early logo ex Isle of Wight. Looks good apart from the top section of the chimney which appears to be a smaller diameter than the base section. All the best Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doktorstamp Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I collected mine today from the post office, on unpacking the chimney was found to be detached, however further scrutiny shows that it can be re-glued. The packaging was excellent and more than sufficient. I would suggest the problem lies with Dapol's quality control, and clearly it was not checked by Rails prior to despatch, although , to be fair, they expect everything to be ok, clearly things are not, and as stated it would appear Dapol's quality control needs tightening. In fairness I have to say this is the first item of many purchased over the course of the years that has had a problem, and I only looked because of what others had reported in this thread. kind regards Nigel 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted September 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, doktorstamp said: I collected mine today from the post office, on unpacking the chimney was found to be detached, however further scrutiny shows that it can be re-glued. The packaging was excellent and more than sufficient. I would suggest the problem lies with Dapol's quality control, and clearly it was not checked by Rails prior to despatch, although , to be fair, they expect everything to be ok, clearly things are not, and as stated it would appear Dapol's quality control needs tightening. In fairness I have to say this is the first item of many purchased over the course of the years that has had a problem, and I only looked because of what others had reported in this thread. kind regards Nigel QA of any item produced in the 100s / 1000s is likely to be only on a % sample basis, so the odd error is likely to slip through the net. If this were a critical item that may be 100%, but it isn't and the cost would not be justified. Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn-on-the-platform Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 I am pleased have picked up 32650 to accompany 32655. Was able to check in the shop, which is itself looking very smart, and have not noted any QC issues so far. Runs well and the two terriers are happy running together as well. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Kaput Posted September 20, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2020 Anyone fitted a stay alive to these little beasties yet? If so, where did you put it and how did you wire it up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWsTrains Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Kaput said: Anyone fitted a stay alive to these little beasties yet? If so, where did you put it and how did you wire it up? I sought advice on this question because I need one on my layout setting and TBH sound installation should have one by default to avoid project resets from even momentary power loss. 1) I never got a reply from Rails to this question - very disappointing 2) I had other expert advice which indicated that the use of and positioning of the NEXT 18 socket in the Dapol Terrier made fitting a stay alive very difficult or even not possible. It was this plus all the other QA and delay issues which finally caused me to lose interest in the model Colin Edited September 20, 2020 by BWsTrains clarification 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRamsden Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 My replacement Terrier arrived today! I'm pleased to say this one is more than satisfactory and runs perfectly well. A very happy customer here. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2020 My BR 32650 arrived, looks great and none of the body issues but it has a tight spot that just won’t go away even with 2hrs running in, even though that’s not supposed to be necessary. It means it just won’t run slowly enough to shunt with so sadly will have to go back. It’s not the contacts as the firebox glow is constant. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted September 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, PaulRhB said: My BR 32650 arrived, looks great and none of the body issues but it has a tight spot that just won’t go away even with 2hrs running in, even though that’s not supposed to be necessary. It means it just won’t run slowly enough to shunt with so sadly will have to go back. It’s not the contacts as the firebox glow is constant. Hi Paul, I've found similar issues with various 0-6-0 locos over the years, though usually Bachmann ones. In several cases, one or more keeper plate screws had been nipped up a little too tight, causing binding. Easily rectified by backing them off then retightening more sensitively. It may well not apply to your Terrier, but it might save the faff of returning it. Regards John Edited September 22, 2020 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said: In several cases, one or more keeper plate screws had been nipped up a little too tight, causing binding. Easily rectified by backing them off then retightening more sensitively. Hi John, yes first thing I tried Oliver has also helpfully pm’d me this morning that idea and I’d tried over a full turn slackening so they are loose but although it slightly better on the top spot it still stalls on the bottom at slow speed so I think it’s quartering over the keeper plate. There’s a definitive click at higher speeds too. The rest is perfect but I’m not mucking with quartering on a new loco. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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