eBay, have I just bought a pile of scrap, again! Has lock down affected my judgement ?

[hayfield]

Not quite a pile of scrap but another gamble, a lot caught my eye as it had 5 pairs of Romford nickel tyred drivers 26 or 27mm diameter which would come in handy,

 

There is a part made Wills A2 which after making a cast of the left hand cab side (I have an A3 with a damaged cab side which can only be bought with the footplate) I can dispose of it,

 

Also a BEC J11 which I can repaint into a Great Central 9J loco. I do have a Wills etched rolling chassis with 20mm wheels, which can be fitted to it as its designed for the Triang 3F chassis

 

There is a BEC J50 with a rewheeled Triang chassis, but I may keep the Romford wheels,

 

A triang 3F tender loco,

 

A pair of PC coach bogies

 

Possible a Triang West Country loco body

 

Finally a collection of Matchbox cars, a couple of HD wagons and a cannon (Brittains ?)

 

The whole lot cost me £63 inc postage< with the Romfords costing £15 a pair now, and I think I can resell the parts I don't want for £40+ and a Loco to keep I think my monies safe

Edited November 24, 2020 by hayfield

[hayfield]

A 2.3 kilo box arrived last night and in my opinion well worth buying. There are 18 insulated Romford wheels (6 x 26mm, 6 x 24mm & 6 x 20 mm) some need drilling most need tapping, but all in very good unused condition

 

Three whitemetal locos, a Wills A3 slightly part built and two BEC kits J11 & J52, both built and painted black. All have boxes and instructions The J52 is in a Dettol bath, the black paint is dissolving and hopefully the Dettol will degrade the glue. The J11 will follow as its badly painted black and some of the parts have come unstuck. This is a keeper as I have either a Wills Finecast rolling etched chassis for it or a SEF one with brake gear. The Wills A3 has about 6 parts stuck together, I think I will get some paint stripper on the joints and unstick the joints. I need to make a mould for the right hand cab (I have a damaged A3 kit built loco and the cab is part of the footplate casting) This kit will be sold along with the J52 I also have Triang chassis blocks for both models, these may or may not be of interest to the buyers

 

There is a Triang deeley 3f tender loco, working but in need of a good clean and service.  A plastic West Country loco body,

 

2 Peco points (will go into an 0-16.5 fiddle yard)

 

A couple of HD wagons, some buffers and a signal. More interesting to the non serious collector a HD tractor and platform motorised  trolley and trailer

 

9 Matchbox cars and lorries with a garage a bigger London bus and a metal field gun ( just need to put into lots that will interest folk)

 

In short I have the wheels and loco I wanted, plus quite a few items to sell to soften the cost

[hayfield]

I tempted fate again with 2 cheapish job lot buys, this time at least one is a bit more qualified

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JOBLOT-OF-00-GAUGE-MODEL-RAILWAY-ACCESSORIE-PARTS-/114552080986?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=lK%2FBybn1bH9JDCCL5Trw%2B7tiZIM%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc

 

I bought this for the whitemetal vehicles, though the wheels and people are also welcome. I might struggle using the Victorian firemen

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JOBLOT-OF-00-GAUGE-MODEL-RAILWAY-ACCESSORIES-METAL-COACH-BUILDING-PARTS-/114552006762?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=lK%2FBybn1bH9JDCCL5Trw%2B7tiZIM%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc

 

This one is a bit more of a gamble, certainly some MJT, looking like some other EMU parts plus a BSL coach

 

These were two of about 6 lots, two were not of interest, one went for far more than I valued it and another I put in quite a high bid (Romford wheels (drivers) again) but there was a more determined person I was up against. Still happy with what I got

 

I understand the Royal Mail is bursting at the seams, even with an extra 33,000 temporary staff working. I am a little less understanding on the hike in prices as the Royal Mail seems to have had a windfall of extra business these past 2 or 3 weeks, nothing against the foot solders who have to bear the brunt of the work, still what's a couple of extra days with all that's going on at the moment

[hayfield]

Soon after posting this morning the items were delivered and again I am very pleased

 

The lorry and taxi are fine and I would have paid what I paid just for those, there is a 4 wheeled carriage with a driver and two horses, missing a rear axle, the period is far too early for me. Also 2 etched lattice double signals, needing refurbishing, quite a few other accessories along with an unbuilt set of electronics for a flickering fire and 2 double packs of 00 gauge coach wheels. There are 4 strange seated early firemen far too big for 4mm scale but too small for 7mm

 

The second batch is mostly what I thought a MJH 2EPB (2 pairs of sides and ends, 1 roof, 2 nearly complete sets of bogies, 1 unbuilt chassis and 1 built but damaged chassis

A BSL SR Portsmouth trailer second, which it is not as its a corridor centre coach I have ends for it in the spares box and will be an excellent partner to a BSL SR brake 3rd I have

 

A PC models motorised tram bogie (could come in handy!!) A few spare castings

 

Most interesting is a EMU models etched brass early panelled driving trailer, mostly complete, sadly without ends.

 

The challenging thing is to decide what to keep and what to sell

 

Got away with it again

 

 

[hayfield]

Have I done it again ?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Collection-OO-HO-Railway-kit-parts-Rocket-Buffers-Wheels-Chassis-/384299209454?nma=true&si=lK%2FBybn1bH9JDCCL5Trw%2B7tiZIM%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 

I had spotted this and thought it was worth a punt, this was the description

 

Collection of HO and OO Railway loco and rolling stock parts.

 

Cooper Craft GWR platform trolley kit - complete.

Airfix Stephenson Rocket kit - complete.

 

All the other packets are open and are therefore incomplete kits and are suitable for parts only.

 

Well yesterday afternoon my niece got married, in a barn near Folkstone and I was one of the few with a mobile signal, well the lot came up during the speeches, luckily the wife was looking the other way engrossed with the bridegrooms speech. Well I got it under my maximum bid and thought there were some gems hidden away, 2 motors, some gears. Several Romford wheels and axles, an older style Bristol Models chassis, perhaps an 06 chassis. Sprung buffers I think I can see and quite a few X03 brushes, plus bin fodder and a few unwanted kits

 

Lets hope its better than my brother in laws jokes, though this time not many were funny. At worst my money is covered and it filled a bit of time before the bar reopened   

[Ruffnut Thorston]

Looks like an ok buy to me! 

[The Johnster]

If you take all the stuff that is going to be of use to you and put it to one side, and take stock of it without the rest of the stuff that came with it but you are never going to use and will either bin or sell on, you will then be able to see whether or not you have achieved value for money to your satisfaction.  Factor in the time and effort you need to put in to sort it all out.

[Steamport Southport]

The only thing I remember about Constructeon Models was they did a Class 14 kit which was pretty well thought of at the time.

 

I have a vague memory of them being something to do with Craftsman. The packaging looks similar. Wonder whether it was a commission.

 

https://www.hattons.co.uk/106262/kitbuilt_kb109_class_14_d9522_in_br_green_built_from_constructeon_models_kit/stockdetail.aspx

 

 

 

Jason

[tomparryharry]

On 01/07/2020 at 13:48, hayfield said:

Well one half (the dearer one) arrived as the 2 lots were posted separately owing to their combined weight

 

My hunch was correct and most pleased with what I had. The wheels motors and Perseverance chassis were as expected and more than covered the cost of the lot.

 

Clearly there was a Peco 0-16.5 Hunslet loco missing one cab side, just missing a couple of other small parts, the footplate was slightly deformed and the cab front which was soldered to the footplate was severely bent into a C shape. With the aid of boiling water it was carefully straightened, however one part snapped. After using 3" of de-solder braid it cleaned up and I was able to make the repair. There was a strange chassis in the lot, which on inspection seems to be for either a scale 3' or 3'6" gauge, no good for me as it is, but will work if I take it apart and fit new spacers

 

The other item as I thought was a K's TVR 0-4-0, some old and some new parts, certainly missing the roof and supports, cylinder is broken and missing bits and there may be smaller bits missing. On the plus side there is a decent very small open frame motor in the lot. The K's HP2M motor and gears along with the plastic wheels will go on Ebay. I will either fit some Gibson wheels into the chassis or buy a set of frames from Alan Gibson. 

 

My hunch on lot 2 was correct and I seem to have got away with 2 almost complete kits as the bonus

 

Err, I think I also bought the missing bits for a K's TVR 0-4-0. Strangely enough, to help build up a complete one. Hmmmm, I wonder? 

[hayfield]

5 minutes ago, tomparryharry said:

 

Err, I think I also bought the missing bits for a K's TVR 0-4-0. Strangely enough, to help build up a complete one. Hmmmm, I wonder? 

 

 

If you have a spare cab etch I am happy to buy it off you, I bought a new etched chassis from Alan Austin of Ambis Engineering. I am also missing a funnel and most of the vert small parts, some of which I either have of can buy frim the likes of Wizard models. Still happy to buy any spares

 

The motor and wheels went on eBay long ago, in the past I have not had good experiences with either these wheels or the motors. Plus High Leven sell a smaller more powerful 5 pole motor. I dont think there were ever too many small parts

 

Peco supplied the missing Hunslet parts. I still have the scratch built chassis and may try selling it on eBay, or even just advertise it on here in the specialist narrow gauge section

[hayfield]

7 hours ago, The Johnster said:

If you take all the stuff that is going to be of use to you and put it to one side, and take stock of it without the rest of the stuff that came with it but you are never going to use and will either bin or sell on, you will then be able to see whether or not you have achieved value for money to your satisfaction.  Factor in the time and effort you need to put in to sort it all out.

 

The pile of bits will not take too long, I can see quickly some X03 brushes, also spare fibre brush holders (we all have broken X03 motors, then what look like PC sprung buffers. 10 mins will sort everything out. Wheel inserts and dodgy coarse wheels will be binned, Triang/Hornby motion will be sold, etched ones kept

 

What's more interesting is the 06 chassis, never heard of the make, will it be complete enough

 

The Perseverance bad has Romford wheels, and Percy spares, both keepers.

 

My farther in law has early stage Alzheimer's, he is in his 90's and is very fit, yesterday I helped him with building one of these laser cut  music boxes. He gets a bit confused so needs a bit of assistance, but he lights up when building it. We are taking him on holiday next month, the Rocket will come with us and he can build it

 

Its ages since I bought one of these mixed lots, I get as much enjoyment finding and sorting these out as I do making them

[Bucoops]

I have had a Constructeon class 14 kit for many years, it looks to be really well designed, but very fiddly due to the nature of the loco. It's the only product of theirs that I was aware of until this chassis kit appeared. 

[hayfield]

1 hour ago, Bucoops said:

I have had a Constructeon class 14 kit for many years, it looks to be really well designed, but very fiddly due to the nature of the loco. It's the only product of theirs that I was aware of until this chassis kit appeared. 

 

If you think its complicated it must be,  no hope for me

 

By chance have you a copy of the instructions please, if so would it be possible to scan them for me, as I can see if I have everything or rather what I need to source.

 

Thanks

[Bucoops]

52 minutes ago, hayfield said:

 

If you think its complicated it must be,  no hope for me

 

By chance have you a copy of the instructions please, if so would it be possible to scan them for me, as I can see if I have everything or rather what I need to source.

 

Thanks

 

It's the class 14 kit I have, not an 06 chassis

 

[hayfield]

Sorry, I misstook your reply for the Alexandra models Class 14 I have which I posted a few weeks back, Looking at the photo the 06 instructions are there. I am not really into diesel era, but if the chassis is any good it might be worth getting a body and it up. Or sell it to someone who might appreciate it more than I wood

[hayfield]

12 hours ago, The Johnster said:

If you take all the stuff that is going to be of use to you and put it to one side, and take stock of it without the rest of the stuff that came with it but you are never going to use and will either bin or sell on, you will then be able to see whether or not you have achieved value for money to your satisfaction.  Factor in the time and effort you need to put in to sort it all out.

 

If the two motors work , then my money is covered. Then the small Romford wheels are valuable, as are the larger ones but they need the crankpin holes drilling and tapping (an excuse to get my Unimat into a pillar drill format) and I have a few other Romford wheels needing the same treatment. I also have the 10ba tap

 

In some way finding out what you bought when you take a chance , is a bit of fun. If the motors and wheels have been damaged, then I may have an issue. None of the items are worth much but its finding these lots where they are far better than advertised. What's the saying  "someone's junk is another's treasure"  Well not quite treasure, but interesting

[Blandford1969]

I will see your pile of scrap and raise you a DJH 0395 which looked like it was just badly painted. Taking the paint off though I found this!

 It will take a while to put that right

[hayfield]

I have a 0395 but in a very much better condition, as its as new and unbuilt. Sadly no instructions and has K's plastic centred wheels

 

I bought a Wills metro tank which had been dropped resulting in the footplate being much the same. I hade a splint for the frame out of Siligum (a silicone moulding putty) from another complete Metro Tank, cleaned up the joints and melted 70 degree low melt solder in the resulting gaps. I have repaired other whitemetal parts simerly, even repairing holes I accidently made. Far more satisfying than building a pristine kit

 

By the way DJH sold me some spares a few months back, super service  

[hayfield]

1 hour ago, Blandford1969 said:

I will see your pile of scrap and raise you a DJH 0395 which looked like it was just badly painted. Taking the paint off though I found this!

 It will take a while to put that right

 

 

This is the said repair, I bought a Metro in two halves, for £38 I had a Mashima motor with gearbox and a set of Markit wheels, I used paint stripper which dissolved the paint and glue

 

 

The footplate is path of the side tank/cab. Had the kit been soldered it would stayed together and busted the buffer(s). The Siligum was left over from another job, so a no cost repair, I have bought a SEF etched chassis etches so still a low cost loco, this time it will be soldered together. As you say a punt where I took a chance, at worst I would have ended up with a motor, gearbox and wheels, plus quite a bit of ballast for other projects

Edited August 6, 2021 by hayfield

[Blandford1969]

I decided to go for a complete new footplate from brass, now fretted out and just needs soldering together.

[Blandford1969]

Double post in error

Edited August 6, 2021 by Blandford1969
Double post

[hayfield]

10 hours ago, Blandford1969 said:

I decided to go for a complete new footplate from brass, now fretted out and just needs soldering together.

 

One of the more talented builders on here uses both a sheet of brass on top of a bottom plate made of printed circuit board, which is fine for non curved footplates and the older whitemetal style of combining a footplate side with the tank and cab sides. What I have done recently is but some etch only kits, where I plan to use the best of both worlds 

[30368]

Good decision, a new brass running plate will give the model a sound foundation. The boiler looks good though and it seems to have the angled smokebox front of the originl design. I scratch built one a good few years ago and decided on the modified version with an ex LC&D boiler and round specticle plate windows. What is the chassis like?

Will follow your progress with this, good luck.

Do you have J H Russell's book Pictorial Record of Southern Locomotives ? It has a series of useful drawings including a very detailed scale drawing. Send me a PM and I will scan them for you.

 

Kind regards,

 

Richard B

[hayfield]

On 06/08/2021 at 01:26, The Johnster said:

If you take all the stuff that is going to be of use to you and put it to one side, and take stock of it without the rest of the stuff that came with it but you are never going to use and will either bin or sell on, you will then be able to see whether or not you have achieved value for money to your satisfaction.  Factor in the time and effort you need to put in to sort it all out.

 

Well the package arrived today and it looks like it was worth the gamble

 

 

The original listing, how not to list !!! But as can be seen 2 complete kits, 2 packs of buffers and a Bristol Models chassis block, not even looking at the interesting bits

 

 

This is the most interesting, 16 mm Romford wheels, Mashima DS10 motor, mount, gears. Percy coupling rods, frame spacers, hornblock set and jigs. With what I paid I would be happy with these

 

A complete kit, along with a Mashima DS10, motor mount and gears. The question now is do I want a Hornby 06? 

 

 

An hour or so sorting this lot out, one for the restorers, Hornby coupling rods, body location screws, pony and bogie trucks. All will be sold either as 1 or 3 lots

 

What are the plastic wheel inserts about ?

 

 

40+ X03/4 brushes, well you can pay up to £4 a pair on eBay, I can see these selling in packs of 10, then there are 4 brush holders, good to repair X03's, quite a few 3 link couplings, 7 or 8 packs of sprung buffers, all good for the spares box

 

 

2 pairs of 26mm Romford's, very useful selection of small nuts and bolts, plus some coupling and connection rods for spares. But I have an old Triang Jinty chassis (for testing track) minus the coupling rods and screws all 4 of which were in the pile along with the motor and pickup retaining screws (the forward retaining screw (which are also there does not fit the BEC J52 body)

[Ruffnut Thorston]

The plastic inserts were used with some older metal wheel sets to give more detail to the spokes, which were not very good as supplied.

 

I can’t remember the brand….1960s, possibly 70s I think.