jim.snowdon Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Alternatively, North Greenwich station, at the end of the Millwall Extension Railway? - http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/n/north_greenwich/index.shtml Jim 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) And DLR at Tower Gateway. Cannon St is elevated too isn’t it ? Edited February 26, 2018 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 26, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2018 St Pancras (before becoming international), Cannon St, St Pauls (Blackfriars), Charring Cross, Broad St, Hammersmith (Met and City Line) and that is not moving out of London. Glasgow Central, Leeds Central also come to mind. Holborn Viaduct, I think the name might be a clue. Swansea Victoria Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2018 What about Wolverhampton High Level? That's raised on one side. Not a terminus though. Again not a terminus in the sense that it has through platforms, London Bridge is raised. So is Waterloo East, and I'm sure trains will have terminated there before now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2018 Pay attention guys! OP is looking for a terminus where the buildings are at a lower level and, therefore, to one side of the track - not across the end with a concourse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Croxley was like that wasn't it? Aside from not actually having any buildings... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2018 Croxley was like that wasn't it? Aside from not actually having any buildings... and would not make a very interesting layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2018 Pay attention guys! OP is looking for a terminus where the buildings are at a lower level and, therefore, to one side of the track - not across the end with a concourse. Well if there were examples I am sure you would be letting us all know where in the country they were. The booking hall at Fenchurch street is at ground level...but on the end of the station. Terminus stations have concourse for ease of getting from one part of the station to the next. I take it the OP wants something like this, where the booking hall is under the arches. Uxbridge High Street was like the OP wants by accident. It was built as a through station, just they never built the rest of the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2018 Well if there were examples I am sure you would be letting us all know where in the country they were. The booking hall at Fenchurch street is at ground level...but on the end of the station. Terminus stations have concourse for ease of getting from one part of the station to the next. I take it the OP wants something like this, where the booking hall is under the arches. no concourse.png Uxbridge High Street was like the OP wants by accident. It was built as a through station, just they never built the rest of the line. Is there an echo in here? (Post #17). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 In addition to the ones Mike mentioned in post 11, Manchester Liverpool Rd (the original Liverpool and Manchester station) was elevated and the passenger buildings were on either side of the line. Line, however carried on for 175 yards to the goods buildings many of which were at right angles to the north and accessed via wagon turntables (not sure about the exact details - will need to check it when back home). (End of the line was about at ground level on Lower Byrom St, where the Manchester Museum of Science and Industry is now located). So maybe if you imagined that back in the 1840s, the goods station was closed instead of the passenger station, it would serve! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 Pay attention guys! OP is looking for a terminus where the buildings are at a lower level and, therefore, to one side of the track - not across the end with a concourse.All I was really wondering is if there was a prototype for Newcastle Haymarket. I have an idea for something similar, but it seemed a very unusual setup. Croxley was like that wasn't it? Aside from not actually having any buildings... Uxbridge High Street was like the OP wants by accident. It was built as a through station, just they never built the rest of the line.These two seem to be the closest, but still not exactly like the layout, as there's no non-railway building at the end. Thank you all for your input so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 How about Leith Central, and if you want to convert it to a MPD - no problem. Jim 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovex Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Would the original Marsh Lane terminus of the Leeds & Selby line qualify, before the line was extended into through the city centre to Leeds Central station? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim.snowdon Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Pay attention guys! OP is looking for a terminus where the buildings are at a lower level and, therefore, to one side of the track - not across the end with a concourse.The OP merely references access via staircases, it doesn't specify whether they are up or down to track level. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Pay attention guys! OP is looking for a terminus where the buildings are at a lower level and, therefore, to one side of the track - not across the end with a concourse. Well, Manchester Liverpool Rd would definitely qualify. Access and ticket offices at street level, staircases up to waiting rooms at rail level. Departure and arrival stations separate and separated by Water St - no access for passengers between them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) Probably, I'm sure there was an elevated terminus in Hounslow at some point. The platforms were up some stairs from the street at Cowes, too. Though that's a bit of an oddity. You're certainly correct Z, about the (original) Hounslow terminus (Hounslow Town). Edited February 27, 2018 by Peter Kazmierczak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 JS mentioned North Greenwich MER station earlier, and that site was, for a few years, even closer to spec, when it was Island Gardens station on the DLR ....... a bit offbeat for most modellers, though, I suspect! http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/i/island_gardens/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Can I present Newcastle Manors powerhouse and station as the best architectural example of an elevated British terminus with the entrance hall on Pandon Bank and with lifts up to the platforms? The Art Nouveau building dating from 1901-4 is by the celebrated architect Benjamin Simpson, designer of other notable buildings around Newcastle city centre all crowned by his distinctive turrets . The line in from Heaton to Newcastle Central station is seen passing over the bridge behind the ornate curved facade. I always thought the power generated in the cavernous space under the platforms was for the NER Tyneside electrics, but in researching the building I see it actually powered the city's tramways and later Newcastle’s famous yellow trolley buses. During the construction of the Tyne & Wear Metro, back in the mists of antiquity, the building was the headquarters of the PTE integrated transportation project. I enjoyed finding that a complete example of the strikingly minimalist white yellow and blue enamelled panel new 1980 Metro stations was assembled beforehand as a 'test build' within the cavernous Art Nouveau building. dh 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted March 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2018 All I was really wondering is if there was a prototype for Newcastle Haymarket. I have an idea for something similar, but it seemed a very unusual setup. I can't think of a place where a non-railway building is right up against the end of the tracks as in Ian Futers' layout. But I can imagine a case where it could have. When Broad St station was demolished to make way for Broadgate, a residual service of North London Line trains was diverted via a rather steep and inconvenient chord at Hackney into Liverpool St. But it would also have been possible to build a new, smaller Broad St station further north, hard up against Broadgate. Indeed, ISTR, there was a temporary Broad St station for a while during construction of the Graham Road Chord. Same might apply in any other city where a large terminus has been closed and built on with just a local train service remaining. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Crawford Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Some time ago (by which I mean well over ten years), there was a layout in the Railway Modeller of an urban terminus up on arches, where the buffer stops were hard up against a neighbouring building, and pedestrian access from street level was via internal staircases. I think this model was based in Newcastle? I'm trying to think of a prototypical example, and I'm struggling! Any ideas? Taken 26-9-09 I can`t remember where though. UXBRIDGE VINE STREET, a fantasy N layout 11' x 1, looks like NCL Hmkt in the 60s. Haven't got more details- yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Crawford Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=22353] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uxbridge_Vine_Street_railway_station http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=22441&start=0 http://www.abandonedstations.org.uk/Uxbridge_Vine_Street_line.html Might not be a fantasy after all. Featured in Dec or Oct (Maybe Sep) 2013 hope it helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppercap Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 UXBRIDGE VINE STREET, a fantasy N layout 11' x 1, looks like NCL Hmkt in the 60s. Haven't got more details- yet. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=22353] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uxbridge_Vine_Street_railway_station http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=22441&start=0 http://www.abandonedstations.org.uk/Uxbridge_Vine_Street_line.html Might not be a fantasy after all. Featured in Dec or Oct (Maybe Sep) 2013 hope it helps. Uxbridge Vine Street wasn't elevated, it was Uxbridge High Street that was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Crawford Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Uxbridge Vine Street wasn't elevated, it was Uxbridge High Street that was. That's the layouts name. The modeller must have taken the name (and added LU station) then put it on arches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 How about Gare Ste Paule in Lyon? A compact, electrified, terminus, built partially into a hillside; thus you have a station building at platform level, accessed by a flight of steps. One side of the station is cut into the hill-side, the other is built up above the adjacent road on arches. At the station throat, the tracks converge and enter a tunnel. Here's a link to a Google image:- https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Gare+Saint-Paul/@45.7663879,4.8256983,157m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x47f4eb00f75880d7:0x49a70274778cab54!8m2!3d45.765996!4d4.826906?hl=en The road that looks like a return loop is exactly that, allowing trolley-buses to turn around. Somehow, they've squeezed a small car-park around and inside it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Glasgow Bridge Street was probably like that, but you'd be going back a long way to before the tracks were extended over the River Clyde into Central station Would you count Lanark station where the platforms will be at street level at one end but the road slopes away so the bufferstops end up at around first floor height for nearby buildings? https://www.flickr.com/photos/killie65/37487337774/in/photolist-Z7CptU-VZdi5C-Vw7KXd-6RMnDP-fp4bBj-hb1HD-2534tJ8-n4UVGT-XH4Pjx-nwdwa4-BsbBcF-hb1np-V3EGtC-hb1wZ-hb1qj-hb1EN-VX3VaG-VPMQe1-97k8XL-GfKyhz-Qi8nN3-VZdjcs-GfKQ2k-7pUj2B-UUbVEd-RmcFVQ-7KjAcU-Wx8dgy-W7fJkF-V3EGUC-xHeyd6-FYBggA-219AYmE-GfKmAD-VxXpd3-xG5xAd-217tpsd-vknHyQ-yP5mvc-z99j9t-217tv6C-yHgQxt-yYM9wE-y3L3EC-y3Lind-yZMMGi-yHbp4G-z1zVLZ-WHbN4h-2534u9B https://www.flickr.com/photos/14581588@N05/13827768103/in/photolist-n4UVGT-XH4Pjx-nwdwa4-BsbBcF-hb1np-V3EGtC-hb1wZ-hb1qj-hb1EN-VX3VaG-VPMQe1-97k8XL-GfKyhz-Qi8nN3-VZdjcs-GfKQ2k-7pUj2B-UUbVEd-RmcFVQ-7KjAcU-Wx8dgy-W7fJkF-V3EGUC-xHeyd6-FYBggA-219AYmE-GfKmAD-VxXpd3-xG5xAd-217tpsd-vknHyQ-yP5mvc-z99j9t-217tv6C-yHgQxt-yYM9wE-y3L3EC-y3Lind-yZMMGi-yHbp4G-z1zVLZ-WHbN4h-2534u9B-yHhbjx-yYMsPb-yZM39r-yHbnij-yHbyn1-yZMqTp-yHccPf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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