Unknown Warrior Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Might be a naive question, but what are the differences? Different shades of blue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathonAG Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Might be a naive question, but what are the differences? As built : Ramsbottom Safety Valves. No vacuum brake equipment/pipes. No lamp irons on running board above bufferbeam, single lamp iron on smokebox top which is rotated 90 degrees to the norm (similar to GWR practice). Preserved: Ross Pop Safety Valves. Vacuum brake equipment and piping. LMS style lamp irons on running board above bufferbeam and LMS style smokebox iron. Overhaul plate on splasher. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 46444 Posted February 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) Fantastic news from Rails. A great choice of a much requested prototype. Now for a Caley 0-4-4 tank to be announced! Edited February 23, 2018 by 46444 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathonAG Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Different shades of blue. Not quite. The Blue No. 828 currently wears is of the same specification that she was first outshopped in. The lighter shade of blue, as will be seen on No. 419 later this year, was introduced around 1915 if I recall correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Another reminder, à la SECR C Class, that even the most humble workaday 0-6-0 can look pretty as a picture in a nice livery... Ther's scarcely a one of the pre-group 0-6-0s that isn't charming, I am an enthusiast for the genre entire. Plenty more worthy subjects yet, hope, hope. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Rails Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Any estimates on pricing? Or release? My wallet is crying.... A brilliant announcement, although I'm not committing the pre-order value until we have an estimated RRP Cheers, 60800 Hi We estimate the price to be £150.00 to £160.00. The price will be confirmed as soon as possible. If pre-ordered with a deposit and the model does come in higher than £160, you will have the option to cancel and get a refund on your deposit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Connell Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 And an as built version - fantastic news! Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 There's the potential for Bachmann to be very clever here as if they keep the mechanism low enough they could double the range and appeal by using the mechanics chassis running plate and for the later LMS/BR version at least the same tender and by adding the smaller boiler and slightly lower cab could offer it as the earlier Drummond Jumbo as well. Surly with most of the design work done it would be easy to offer this option especally if done at an early stage like now rather like whats been done with that industrial jobbie which I've forgotten the name (they say the mind goes first) Brilliant news though and if the early livery is the dark blue I shall be interested. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted February 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2018 Just placed my pre-order for one as built and one as preserved. Only my 3rd pre-order ever! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I pre-ordered with a deposit. I think. But your site only charged me 4 drinking tokens, not 30. It deducted 26 for some reason. Have I broken the interweb? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Warrior Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Two photos of 828 at Llangollen Steel,Steam and Stars 3, 27.4.2012 complete with Unknown Warrior name plate. Not sure about the driver though! 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Warrior Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I pre-ordered with a deposit. I think. But your site only charged me 4 drinking tokens, not 30. It deducted 26 for some reason. Have I broken the interweb? Worry not they will have deducted £30, just a software glitch! Have already been in touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted February 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2018 I only recently bought a copy of "Railways in Retrospect No 5 Caledonian in LMS Days": http://www.booklaw.co.uk/shop/index.php?id_product=3044&controller=product Very nice book--interesting as it shows CR-liveried locos operating well into the LMS era, eg. one picture (page 49) is of a CR-liveried 4-4-0 at Forfar in 1930, and another (page 70) has a CR 0-6-0 at Annan on a freight hauling stock with LMS lettering--so a bit of a quandary, do I go for the LMS black version or the (prettier) CR blue one...?! With this photographic evidence to hand, probably the latter! Excellent to see this release, well done to Rails and Bachmann. cheers, Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9402 Fredrick Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I ended up being unable to choose and pre-ordered all five variations, hopefully the deposit isn't gonna be taken out just yet. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60800 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) Hi We estimate the price to be £150.00 to £160.00. The price will be confirmed as soon as possible. If pre-ordered with a deposit and the model does come in higher than £160, you will have the option to cancel and get a refund on your deposit. Thanks for the reply - hopefully there'll be an order flying your way early next week EDIT: Now on the order list for 828 as preserved Cheers, 60800 Edited February 25, 2018 by 60800 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Edwardian Posted February 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) Unalloyed good news. 'As-built' versions of pre-Groupers are much rarer in RTR than 'as preserved' and late service condition, so I think Rails is to be especially commended for this. I shall have to succumb. Not to mention the Sudrian Twins. Edited February 23, 2018 by Edwardian 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris89 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Pre-ordered the As Preserved one as more biased towards it, Also did just call Rails about the invoice and have confirmed as well the £30 has been taken as well for it. Also by the sounds off it already is doing rather well to. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjgardiner Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Excellent announcement, very excited by this. My question is that which someone else asked i think, any thoughts on timing? I know how much everything can slip, but is there an initial target date, or an earliest expected date to allow customers to budget for pre-orders to know when to have money available. This is always my biggest problem with the way things have evolved to pre-order. Trying to forecast when you need to have money available, not that it winds up mattering as everything always seems to arrive at once anyways. Cheers Stephen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathonAG Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I wonder if Rails could also clarify the following : There were a lot of variable differences both among the class, but also the same engine as well after each overhaul. Might we see the dogclip style fastening for the BR version on No. 57566, with LMS snaphead rivets on the wings and smokebox wrapper? This along with certain members of the class seeing stovepipe style chimneys fitted, and I believe the whole class had the Westinghouse Air Brake equipment removed by BR days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9402 Fredrick Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 It looks like four of the five are variations of 828, with the E/E one being the only different one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted February 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2018 Although out of my area it's good to see things for the Scottish scene after years of neglect. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted February 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) Duplicated post due to smartphone Edited February 23, 2018 by TheSignalEngineer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted February 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) Excellent announcement, very excited by this. My question is that which someone else asked i think, any thoughts on timing? I know how much everything can slip, but is there an initial target date, or an earliest expected date to allow customers to budget for pre-orders to know when to have money available. This is always my biggest problem with the way things have evolved to pre-order. Trying to forecast when you need to have money available, not that it winds up mattering as everything always seems to arrive at once anyways. Cheers Stephen The nice lady on the Rails stand said 18 months . Edited February 23, 2018 by Legend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM47079 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I like it. Very good choice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Warrior Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 The nice lady on the Rails stand said 18 months . My worst fears, that means the G5 and the Caley 812 could arrive at the same time! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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