RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted February 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) As far as I know, apart from Queen’s, it’s not been cleaned since I was a student from 1985-88. This century, I was also a Fellow of Hertford; the rear elevation of the College, and the New College cloister and barn wall are as black as ever. Certainly this morning, when I walked through! It's a long while since I've been, so I bow to your more recent observation; perhaps I've not been watching Endeavour closely enough too and they've been choosing this location precisely because it's not been cleaned. I was a couple of years ahead of you and my first year room was in New College's New Buildings (always a source of amusement to outsiders, being over a hundred years old even then) which were black - I think cleaning of these happened while I was a graduate student. The New Buildings were among the last to be tackled - the front and garden quads had been cleaned before c. 1983. I'm not surprised that the New College Lane side was never tackled - it was a college tradition to be indifferent to anything going on outside the walls! Here's a link to an academic paper on the stonework of Oxford. One point gleaned from speed-reading is that much of the exterior stonework we see is very much younger than the buildings as a whole purport to be - even before the great cleaning of the last half-century, stonework had to be replaced as it decayed. Much like railway engines - new boiler, new frames, new cylinders - still the same engine. Edited February 22, 2018 by Compound2632 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
exet1095 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 It's a long while since I've been, so I bow to your more recent observation; perhaps I've not been watching Endeavour closely enough too and they've been choosing this location precisely because it's not been cleaned. I was a couple of years ahead of you and my first year room was in New College's New Buildings (always a source of amusement to outsiders, being over a hundred years old even then) which were black - I think cleaning of these happened while I was a graduate student. The New Buildings were among the last to be tackled - the front and garden quads had been cleaned before c. 1983. I'm not surprised that the New College Lane side was never tackled - it was a college tradition to be indifferent to anything going on outside the walls! Here's a link to an academic paper on the stonework of Oxford. One point gleaned from speed-reading is that much of the exterior stonework we see is very much younger than the buildings as a whole purport to be - even before the great cleaning of the last half-century, stonework had to be replaced as it decayed. Much like railway engines - new boiler, new frames, new cylinders - still the same engine. Indeed - most stone in Oxford comes from Stamford now. We had to do extensive masonry repairs at Hertford, replacing more local stuff. The worst of all is from Headington - that dissolves to nothing, giving Balliol an excuse to rebuild itself in the late nineteenth century, complete with raspberry ripple chapel... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Cheese Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 4 Pages in and the thin line between an eye for detail and probable Asperger's syndrome is apparent? No offence intended...the blue TOPS Crompton is fairly obvious but the rest of it is way out of my league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) 4 Pages in and the thin line between an eye for detail and probable Asperger's syndrome is apparent? No offence intended...the blue TOPS Crompton is fairly obvious but the rest of it is way out of my league For those who spent much time around BR at the time the episode is supposedly set, most of the anachronisms and regional anomalies stick out like a sore thumb. Anyone familiar only with Heritage railways probably won't bat an eyelid at any of it. John Edited February 23, 2018 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) Ok, so who's going to pull tonight's episode apart then ? I just enjoy it for its entertainment value, that's each and every episode! Edited February 25, 2018 by bgman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) Well this week they got it right! Brief view of railway on MoD land and it was the design of SR brake van as built for the military with vacuum cylinder mounted on the end platform. Mind, far tattier than the military usually kept their railway items. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/modbrake/e31471dbe Paul Edited February 25, 2018 by hmrspaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeps Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 So where was it shot then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 So where was it shot then? I'm guessing MoD Bicester... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Missed tonight's episode: what railway stuff was featured? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I'm guessing MoD Bicester... Yes, that would be my guess, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I'm guessing MoD Bicester... Can't tell you or I'll be shot ! F.I.Ringsquad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 45156 Posted February 26, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2018 Missed tonight's episode: what railway stuff was featured? Please no - I only got back from a holiday last night and it's sitting on my hard drive to be consumed with a nice glass of beer and the wood burner stoked up well with best hardwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 OK, please hold off for a few days! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Please no - I only got back from a holiday last night and it's sitting on my hard drive to be consumed with a nice glass of beer and the wood burner stoked up well with best hardwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted February 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2018 OK, please hold off for a few days! Yes, let's have no spoilers this time, please! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted February 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2018 No spoilers is ok, I won't be watching until this evening either. However, another railway observation from a previous series. In the episode where Miss Thurdsay was doing the "She's Leaving Home" thing, Morse encountered her walking away with her suitcase and they talked by an old-style Beware of the Train roadsign. In sound (though not in vision) there appeared to be a steam engine doing some enthusiastic shunting. Would that have been possible in Oxford at the time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted February 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2018 No spoilers is ok, I won't be watching until this evening either. However, another railway observation from a previous series. In the episode where Miss Thurdsay was doing the "She's Leaving Home" thing, Morse encountered her walking away with her suitcase and they talked by an old-style Beware of the Train roadsign. In sound (though not in vision) there appeared to be a steam engine doing some enthusiastic shunting. Would that have been possible in Oxford at the time? Depends on the date that the episode was set. I believe that the last W.R. steam at Oxford was in December 1965, although there could have been some inter-regional stuff for a couple of years after that, certainly until the end of Southern steam in 1967? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Pteremy Posted February 26, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2018 Depends on the date that the episode was set. I believe that the last W.R. steam at Oxford was in December 1965, although there could have been some inter-regional stuff for a couple of years after that, certainly until the end of Southern steam in 1967? 3rd January 1966 seems to be the key date. Although as you suggest the Railway Observer noted that York-Bournmouth service remained steam hauled, and a couple of steam headed freights were seen in January (1966, p85). But no more steam shunting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daltonparva Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Nothing to do with the railways, but after the Crossroads lark in the previous episode I noticed in last night's that a small party of soldiers had been led by a Sergeant Windsor Davies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 No railways in last night's episiode so I presume RMwebbers were busy enjoying the story for what it was and not getting apoplectic about all the errors. Let's start with the live minefield in the middle of a UK base. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 does anyone know what was the Tank that Featured,? looked a bit Modern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 does anyone know what was the Tank that Featured,? looked a bit Modern. Well it wasn't Thomas ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 2mmMark Posted February 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2018 No railways in last night's episiode so I presume RMwebbers were busy enjoying the story for what it was and not getting apoplectic about all the errors. Let's start with the live minefield in the middle of a UK base. Not beyond the bounds of credibility. The whole of RMWeb is a live minefield. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Nothing to do with the railways, but after the Crossroads lark in the previous episode I noticed in last night's that a small party of soldiers had been led by a Sergeant Windsor Davies. And, not wishing to get political or fall foul of the pc brigade, with all the demos going on last night, didn't one of the guys involved have the surname Farage? (think UKIP!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 does anyone know what was the Tank that Featured,? looked a bit Modern. Abbot 105mm self-propelled gun. In date for the period by about 5 years but not issued to Light Infantry regiments. That was clanger No.2 after the minefield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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