Londontram Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I want to draw a basic flat bed heavy duty railway horse drawn dray cir 1900 in 4mm 00 scale to cut out and build using the silhouette cutter just for my own use but seem to be having problems finding any sort of drawings or dimensions for one on google. Has any one got a set of drawings or the basic dimensions for one including the wheel diameters they could let me have. Thanks Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted February 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2018 Would not be much different from a brewery dray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted February 9, 2018 Author Share Posted February 9, 2018 I'm not sure but I guess not. Some railway drays were just flat beds with no seats. the driver just walking along side when the draw was full or just sat on the corner with dangling legs at other times then again you see some with seats like brewers drays so who can say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire2865 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Ive never seen a photo of a railway flat dray with a seat, however the Midland had some road drays with an elevated seat and sliding canvas top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted February 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2018 http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/photo?group=Derby&objid=1997-7397_DY_2796 Conveniently parked in such a way as you can use the old "count-the-bricks" method. Well, good for the length anyway! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 The HMRS has a number of drawings of horse drawn vehicles, although they are a little difficult to find. If you start off, say, with the LBSCR, you can select the relevant category, and there are quite a few drawings that can be previewed and many are dimensioned. Having selected Horse drawn vehicles as the category, you can then find several other companies now listed, the GWR being particularly well represented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2018 LMS Road Vehicles by Twells and Bourne has some drawings. Drays varied in size, load capacity, single or a pair of horses. Those built for city traffic were fitted with a high level seat for the driver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2018 The British Railway Journal GER special has drawings of a GER dray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) From 'Great Western Horse Power' by Janet Russell (OPC):- Described as, "One Horse Lorry", Shafts 8' long, Wheel Dia. 3' 3", 3' 10" Ground level to floor, Floor 11' 10½" x 5' 7", sides 6 3/8" high, of which 3" is floor. The Drawing shows a curvy topped frontboard 1' high (above the sides), but the "Paddington Pattern" also has a seat and the "Bristol Pattern" lacks the front board. The dished wheels are inclined outwards, so that the spokes are vertical when in line with the road. Slaters used to do a plastic kit for a dray, complete with horse (MR IIRC). Possibly they still do? Edited February 9, 2018 by Il Grifone 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold unravelled Posted February 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2018 I came across these diagrams and notes in "Modern Railway working" dated about 1912. There are a few more pages of description which I could scan if they would be useful. I hope the detailed drawing could be used to fill out convincing details in the diagrams. Dave 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire2865 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I came across these diagrams and notes in "Modern Railway working" dated about 1912. There are a few more pages of description which I could scan if they would be useful. scan001.jpg scan002.jpg scan003.jpg scan004.jpg I hope the detailed drawing could be used to fill out convincing details in the diagrams. Dave Do you by any chance have a higher resolution copy of that first one? Looks just like the Midlands design. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold unravelled Posted February 10, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2018 Do you by any chance have a higher resolution copy of that first one? Looks just like the Midlands design. Here it is, I had uploaded the files before I remembered that there was a bigger file limit. If this doesn't work I'll PM you the file. Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_m Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I came across these diagrams and notes in "Modern Railway working" dated about 1912. There are a few more pages of description which I could scan if they would be useful. scan001.jpg scan002.jpg scan003.jpg scan004.jpg I hope the detailed drawing could be used to fill out convincing details in the diagrams. Dave Help! Can anyone translate the construction instructions in this piece, please (or advise on further texts)? martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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