tamperman36 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Whilst out shopping with SWMBO yesterday we called into our local branch of "The Works bookshop", and as we wandered around I came across a selection of different new Haynes manuals, among them was one for the " English Electric Class 50 1967 onwards (all models) owners' workshop manual" .They were on sale at just £6.00, reduced from £22.99. When I looked at the publishing date they were first printed December 2017, so are upto date. On looking through the book there are lots of colour images of both inside and outside the locos, also lots of good detail photos of details on the underframe, engine compartment and cabs. It also has details of all the different liveries carried by each loco along with lots more info on there histories. This book I believe is a great book for anyone modelling a class 50 and to my surprise I was given permission to purchase a copy for myself. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted January 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2018 .........and to my surprise I was given permission to purchase a copy for myself. Given permission?? C'mon, man or mouse....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Given permission?? C'mon, man or mouse....... For £6? I don't get a lot from reading a novel but a book like this would fascinate me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Thanks for the tip, bought myself a copy today, nice book Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Given permission?? C'mon, man or mouse....... Put the cheese where I can reach it.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Piewalker Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Got myself the Flying Scotsman one too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted January 28, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2018 Does the Class 50 one tell you how to fix the electronics when they malfunction? Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie.dunn Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I also picked up a copy today, I was flicking through magazines in WHSmith and saw it advertised on the back cover. Thought nothing of it so carried as normal and ended up on the works and there it was , didn't think twice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Does the Class 50 one tell you how to fix the electronics when they malfunction? Dava Standard Haynes response to this "refer to professional mechanic" or works along those lines. :-) Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I would buy a copy, but alas I don't have a garage, my axle stands are a bit rusty and somebody nicked my socket set. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Nice book (at the discounted price), but a couple of howlers spotted early on suggest that the text isn't 100% accurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted February 4, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 4, 2018 Does the Class 50 one tell you how to fix the electronics when they malfunction? Dava A big hammer I would have thought Hat coat and run Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamperman36 Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 I would have thought when your talking about electronics in a class 50 the first thing would be thick rubber gloves and rubber soled boots, and a seriously good earthing cable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Nice book (at the discounted price), but a couple of howlers spotted early on suggest that the text isn't 100% accurate. I thought they were nicknamed hoovers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted February 4, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 4, 2018 When I was a lad, watching trains at Carlisle and Crewe, Class 50's were only allowed out on the WCML in pairs, so that if/when one failed, the other could tow it home. Apparently it also allowed rapid recovery from electrification works speed restrictions, probably on rather few occasions. They had available 5400NHP which is theoretically a lot of power and much more than a HST at 4500NHP. You can draw your own conclusions about which combo made better use of the power available and lasted longer and better in service [so far]. Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 When I was a lad, watching trains at Carlisle and Crewe, Class 50's were only allowed out on the WCML in pairs, so that if/when one failed, the other could tow it home. Apparently it also allowed rapid recovery from electrification works speed restrictions, probably on rather few occasions. They had available 5400NHP which is theoretically a lot of power and much more than a HST at 4500NHP. You can draw your own conclusions about which combo made better use of the power available and lasted longer and better in service [so far]. Dava Absolutely, the Class 50s (a couple anyway) are still in service, and when I lived in Oxford and worked in Reading I had many a great run behind them ! BTW The Haynes Manual on the London Underground is also very interesting, and available at The Works for £6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ba14eagle Posted February 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 5, 2018 Seems a bargain and have been browsing a copy this morning. It is a shame there are some real howlers in the photo captions - it always makes me a bit wary of such a publications usefulness, as a source of reliable research material, when this happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Er, not quite true. There were many single-headed class 50 trains. The double heading came in when the schedules were accelerated (in 1971 or earlier) prior to electrification being completed in May 1974. Agree with the above, the initial workings of these locomotives were on the Euston - Perth services, and these had a single loco. Many of the initial deliveries did not have multiple working jumpers fited as new. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium alexross42 Posted February 10, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) Thanks for the heads-up on this, was able to order it online for this much reduced price and am really enjoying it, a lot of information to digest and a very useful resource. Edited February 10, 2018 by alexross42 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MarkC Posted February 10, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 10, 2018 There's a copy at home awaiting my return - hopefully next weekend. My good lady was in The Works when I phoned her, and, well, it seemed like a good opportunity to ask her to get a copy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Nice book (at the discounted price), but a couple of howlers spotted early on suggest that the text isn't 100% accurate. Agreed, the picture of unrefurbished 50006 'Neptune' leaving Newton Abbot c1980 is just a bit wrong. Saying that it is still a nice easy read and covers quite a lot about the class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted June 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) Its a nice picture book. I got a copy of it and of the GWR Kings Castle "manual" at the same time. The Haynes "Flying Scotsman" book was rather more expensive (as befitting the most famous locomotive in the world), a fitting over-valuation in the spirit of its subject.... Edited June 24, 2018 by Hroth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Its a nice picture book. I got a copy of it and of the GWR Kings Castle "manual" at the same time. The Haynes "Flying Scotsman" book was rather more expensive (as befitting the most famous locomotive in the world), a fitting over-valuation in the spirit of its subject.... Probably depends on where you got it from, in that case it was possibly over priced at £3.99 from The Works when I got mine. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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