Andrew P Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Alonso = 25 Laps behind after pit stop, that's worse than a MaLaren / Honda Grid Penalty http://www.espn.co.uk/racing/nascar/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted January 28, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2018 Alonso = 25 Laps behind after pit stop, that's worse than a MaLaren / Honda Grid Penalty http://www.espn.co.uk/racing/nascar/ Tyre (ok, so tire!) issues seem to be hampering one or two teams, his included. Penske never seems to be far away from the front in whatever his team does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffAlan Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I've followed F1 since the 1950s when, if you were really lucky the news might show a car drive over the finish line as they told you the result. Occasionally the local motor club got film of a race, but by modern standards the coverage was very poor. As coverage on TV increased I watched every race in the season, these days we have a household embargo in news before the Highlights races, as the BBC, in particular, take great delight in telling you the result.....without any warning! If F1 goes pay-for-view in any shape or form I suspect that will be the end of my viewing. I too refuse to donate any money to the Murdoch family. I suspect many will pay no matter where it goes. However many won't as has been shown in countries where coverage is behind a pay wall. For entertainment and damn good, if sometimes dirty, racing the BTCC package is a lot better than F1, but the prototype nature of F1 has its own fascination. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I've followed F1 since the 1950s when, if you were really lucky the news might show a car drive over the finish line as they told you the result. Occasionally the local motor club got film of a race, but by modern standards the coverage was very poor. As coverage on TV increased I watched every race in the season, these days we have a household embargo in news before the Highlights races, as the BBC, in particular, take great delight in telling you the result.....without any warning! If F1 goes pay-for-view in any shape or form I suspect that will be the end of my viewing. I too refuse to donate any money to the Murdoch family. I suspect many will pay no matter where it goes. However many won't as has been shown in countries where coverage is behind a pay wall. For entertainment and damn good, if sometimes dirty, racing the BTCC package is a lot better than F1, but the prototype nature of F1 has its own fascination. Like you, I have a News Blackout in our place, and that now includes coming on here until I've seen the Quali and Race Highlights, I used to watch the Rallying many years ago, but will need to have a look at BTCC once we lose F1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffAlan Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Like you, I have a News Blackout in our place, and that now includes coming on here until I've seen the Quali and Race Highlights, I used to watch the Rallying many years ago, but will need to have a look at BTCC once we lose F1. I can thoroughly recommend it. The coverage is incredibly long with several formats in the card. I record the whole 7hrs*, then watch only the races missing out a lot, but not all of the talking and the adverts. Give or take! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Unfortunately Virgin isn't... The sooner it does, the better... i had this discussion with one of their operators when i had my annual discussion on how to reduce their increases... I'd love to be able to get rid of all the crap channels... It’s a shame that the Liberty that own Virgin is not the same Liberty that owns F1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I can thoroughly recommend it. The coverage is incredibly long with several formats in the card. I record the whole 7hrs*, then watch only the races missing out a lot, but not all of the talking and the adverts. Give or take! Which Station is it on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 ITV 3 or 4 normally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) Having just seen the 2018 Silverstone F1 eye watering admission prices , I find it amazing anyone goes/can afford to go anymore, £85 for a child (11-15 years) just to walk through the gate. I haven't been since Brands Hatch lost the race. Silverstone is not even close for viewing quality, dead flat and you can only see one corner anywhere on the circuit at any one time. They even have the nerve to charge for car parking nowadays. https://tickets.formula1.com/en/3226-silverstone/ BTCC is on ITV4, highlights on about 1am the following Monday and again the next weekend . Timing maybe different this year, it won't be long to find out !. btcc Edited January 28, 2018 by micklner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 According to the latest report, Alonso is 37 Laps down with about 2 Hours to Go and Alonso may have one more stint, mainly due to breakdowns and time sat in the Garage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted January 28, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2018 Having just seen the 2018 Silverstone F1 eye watering admission prices , I find it amazing anyone goes/can afford to go anymore, £85 for a child (11-15 years) just to walk through the gate. I haven't been since Brands Hatch lost the race. Silverstone is not even close for viewing quality, dead flat and you can only see one corner anywhere on the circuit at any one time. They even have the nerve to charge for car parking nowadays. https://tickets.formula1.com/en/3226-silverstone/ BTCC is on ITV4, highlights on about 1am the following Monday and again the next weekend . Timing maybe different this year, it won't be long to find out !. btcc And Silverbum is cursed with a very poor road network, so getting there at busy times is a nightmare. I'm with you that Brands was a much better, much more demanding circuit then and now. Accessibility was and is also more diverse. Of course the BRDC, aka the British motor racing establishment, full of blokes in blazers, owns Silverbum, so that's that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) He is indeed. Who do they think they are kidding when they say it is to saves costs? What are the FIA expecting the teams to do, sit out the rest of the seasons once they've blown 3 engines just so they can "save money"? Instead of 'burning them up on the dyno' maybe the teams should run the engines in during the actual race, they could reduce the power output and for safety put a sign on the back of the car saying 'running in please pass' as we used to do during the 1970s and 1980s. I always thought F1 was supposed to be about pushing the boundaries etc, now its just endurance racing but the 'racing' is spread over a few days/continents. Edited January 28, 2018 by royaloak 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdlcs Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Having just seen the 2018 Silverstone F1 eye watering admission prices , I find it amazing anyone goes/can afford to go anymore, £85 for a child (11-15 years) just to walk through the gate. I haven't been since Brands Hatch lost the race. Silverstone is not even close for viewing quality, dead flat and you can only see one corner anywhere on the circuit at any one time. They even have the nerve to charge for car parking nowadays. https://tickets.formula1.com/en/3226-silverstone/ Perhaps a candidate for the <a href="http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/68755-sure-railway-modelling-is-expensive-but-compared-to-other-hobbies/">thread</a>in Wheeltappers.Perhaps they looked at the football ticket prices... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 And Silverbum is cursed with a very poor road network, so getting there at busy times is a nightmare. I'm with you that Brands was a much better, much more demanding circuit then and now. Accessibility was and is also more diverse. Of course the BRDC, aka the British motor racing establishment, full of blokes in blazers, owns Silverbum, so that's that. Brands Hatch was much better? I don't agree. Located in Kent so badly located for most of the UK, also poor road access, about half the circuit had no spectator viewing areas, impractical pits area (I was involved in a club level 2L sports racing car team, in the late 60's so experienced it first hand). I don't think much has changed over the years. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Jol beat me to it, exactly what I was thinking... I find it funny that if something is on in the SE, especially Kent, it is seen as "easily accessible"... It's anything but to the rest of us who live north of the M25! London-centric bias, eh! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Well to those of us who live in the south, things in the south are easily accessible. And stuff in Yorkshire (for example) is not. Just a function of living in a country that's larger than Lichtenstein... Though Kent is only easily accessible if you're starting from Kent... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Brands Hatch was much better? I don't agree. Located in Kent so badly located for most of the UK, also poor road access, about half the circuit had no spectator viewing areas, impractical pits area (I was involved in a club level 2L sports racing car team, in the late 60's so experienced it first hand). I don't think much has changed over the years. Jol beat me to it, exactly what I was thinking... I find it funny that if something is on in the SE, especially Kent, it is seen as "easily accessible"... It's anything but to the rest of us who live north of the M25! London-centric bias, eh! At least Brands has it's own ready made Car Park, it's called the M25. I went to the last Brands when Mansell won after Pequie crashed and the race had to be re started. We arrived about 6 am with Car Park passes and were told by a very helpful Policeman just to park on the Grass and walk the last mile, as the Car Parks were full. We Stayed about an Hour, sold our Tickets to a Ticket Tout on the way out, drove back to Portsmouth and watched it all on TV. Our neighbours who we were supposed to meet had set their Video machine, but due to the delayed start they only had half hour of the Race, luckily for them, I had taped it as well. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Alfa set their Launch date. http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/22250699/launch-date-set-new-alfa-romeo-sauber-f1-car 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I thought they were confident about the Honda to start with! http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/22251428/fernando-alonso-renault-engine-data-makes-mclaren-very-confident-2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted January 29, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2018 I thought they were confident about the Honda to start with! http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/22251428/fernando-alonso-renault-engine-data-makes-mclaren-very-confident-2018 Very true But it would be great to see McLaren with an engine and chassis combination that is at least remotely competitive on the grid this year. I'll be optimistic at this stage...until the DNF prove otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) I thought they were confident about the Honda to start with! http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/22251428/fernando-alonso-renault-engine-data-makes-mclaren-very-confident-2018 Would you expects them to say otherwise when they linked up with Honda? At least they are moving to an engine supplier who has consistent experience in F1 and has supplied championship power units mere recently than Honda. Edited for typo! Edited January 29, 2018 by Jol Wilkinson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Well to those of us who live in the south, things in the south are easily accessible. And stuff in Yorkshire (for example) is not. Just a function of living in a country that's larger than Lichtenstein... Though Kent is only easily accessible if you're starting from Kent... Cornwall to Kent? I suspect Yorkshire would just as easy! No M25 either... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamperman36 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 So it looks like this year may be the last year I'll bother with as by the sound of it live races will only be on Sky TV from next year and I have no intension of paying to watch,(typical Yorkshire man, tight as a ducks a##e). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Won't be much point watching if it's just Lewis trundling around to the title again anyhow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Is that a prediction for this year? It certainly didn't happen in the last two seasons... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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