Andrew P Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Great interview. http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/22864626/lewis-hamilton-responds-nico-rosberg-inconsistency-jibe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) I'm still not convinced. http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/22865711/fernando-alonso-mclaren-the-front-mid-season Edited March 22, 2018 by Andrew P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Interesting Stats. http://f1.channel4.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I'm still not convinced. http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/22865711/fernando-alonso-mclaren-the-front-mid-season I guess if you don't even start the season with some optimism, you might as well give up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I can't see McLaren figthing for wins on a regular basis this season. I still believe that their reason for signing with Honda in the first place was sound. With another engine, they will always be behind another team. Red Bull have more experience with the Renault package & have a good chassis to go with it. Any gains McLaren make will be cancelled out by gains Red Bull make. Honda are taking much longer to catch up than I expected. I believe that McLaren's decision to switch to Renault engines was aimed at being more competitive in 2019. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I can't see McLaren figthing for wins on a regular basis this season. I still believe that their reason for signing with Honda in the first place was sound. With another engine, they will always be behind another team. Red Bull have more experience with the Renault package & have a good chassis to go with it. Any gains McLaren make will be cancelled out by gains Red Bull make. Honda are taking much longer to catch up than I expected. I believe that McLaren's decision to switch to Renault engines was aimed at being more competitive in 2019. Yes, then the Rules will change again in 2020. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) Yes, then the Rules will change again in 2020. You do realise 'they' have to keep Ferrari happy or they will throw their teddy out again dont you? Edited March 22, 2018 by royaloak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Davis Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I think that, if this were to happen, it might not be a bad thing; https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/134971/ecclestone-liberty-cant-ignore-breakaway-threat Might make for more interesting racing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) Something needs to be done asap. Declining audiences , next year no free TV at all. As I have said before BTCC is free viewing and the whole day is shown on ITV 4 with proper racing. Brands Hatch, have free access Test day on the 29th, most of the Teams are expected, sadly the weather forecast is not good at the moment. Sponsors are going to walk before long, if not already . e.g McLaren still have no title sponsor. If Ferrari go a good thing ?, they think they have FIA by the throat and need to be put in their place. As usual no Team is bigger than the Dog , Ferrari are wagging the proverbial FIA Tail at the moment. Better racing easy ? all teams have the same budget limit. Ecclestone is to blame for most of F1 ills, and is still popping up with (edit UN)needed comments !!, and should have been ousted many years ago. Edited March 23, 2018 by micklner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I think that, if this were to happen, it might not be a bad thing; https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/134971/ecclestone-liberty-cant-ignore-breakaway-threat Might make for more interesting racing? I understand the view that concurs with that. But I have my doubts. On the one hand, if the rich, breakaway teams form their own race series, they will dominate that even more than now and "racing" may not be the result. On the other, assuming Liberty have to keep F1 going in some guise, so as not to completely lose their investment, they will be left with a set of second tier teams, perhaps with some new entrants, but a series that may require a levelling to ensure new entrants and keep the series affordable for those with less deep pockets. This would not make it any different from F2 or NASCAR etc. In both cases, sponsorship will be at best divided, at worst partially or significantly lost, so either costs must be radically reduced or more of the costs sought from pay-media and/or spectators. I hope all parties realise that, for all its faults, the current series is recognised as the peak of racing technology and racecraft (even if the races, or even whole seasons, have not necessarily resulted in enough great "racing"). Other formats may be more exciting for the purists, or more futuristic, such as the e-series, but none attracts as much global attention, and therefore money and talent, as F1. I hope all see compromise and evolution as the way ahead. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Having said that, F1 is (still) basking in the glory of days long since past. If it wasn't for past heroics, modern media would totally ignore it, especially in the US with their more popular NASCAR series (and others). But one important thing to remember: there's a reason other main car manufacturers (like Toyota, BMW, GM, Ford and most obviously VW with their Porsche brand) are NOT in F1 Connect the dots yourself ...... for the moment. Lambo (for VAG) are actively involved in 2021 discussions. They stayed out whilst Bernie was around, because the previous CEO hated him, and the next one was very pro-F1, but was sacked after the emissions scandal. VAG seem to believe they have gone as far as they can with WEC and Le Mans. Toyota were hopeless in F1, but seem to be looking at Formula E again. BMW don't have the money. GM have sold up in Europe, and Ford, well what have they got to bring to the party? Indycar have only two engine suppliers, but are trying to attract more, with little success it seems. So the dots, other than cost, with the 2021 regs up for grabs, are not that easy to join up right now. But if pay-media conquers all, then I guess you will be right. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 ...... for the moment. Lambo (for VAG) are actively involved in 2021 discussions. They stayed out whilst Bernie was around, because the previous CEO hated him, and the next one was very pro-F1, but was sacked after the emissions scandal. VAG seem to believe they have gone as far as they can with WEC and Le Mans. Toyota were hopeless in F1, but seem to be looking at Formula E again. BMW don't have the money. GM have sold up in Europe, and Ford, well what have they got to bring to the party? Indycar have only two engine suppliers, but are trying to attract more, with little success it seems. So the dots, other than cost, with the 2021 regs up for grabs, are not that easy to join up right now. But if pay-media conquers all, then I guess you will be right. Fiesta on Steroids? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 23, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2018 Oz FP1&2 show a familiar pattern at the front, but McLaren and Haas are showing more of the testing weeks’ speed to good effect. Renault, Force India looking ordinary, Williams and Sauber still not good, and Toro Rosso maybe a bit disappointing compared to Barcelona. With uncertain weather over the weekend, we may still get a real race. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Is it just me, or does Brendan Hartley always look Pissed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Something needs to be done asap. Declining audiences , next year no free TV at all. As I have said before BTCC is free viewing and the whole day is shown on ITV 4 with proper racing. Brands Hatch, have free access Test day on the 29th, most of the Teams are expected, sadly the weather forecast is not good at the moment. From that article... "Liberty... "They are marketing people, TV people. Sport for them is entertainment, it is about engagement with the fans. Creating a better experience for the viewer and the fan." As long as you pay them for it... Signs are so far that Liberty are doing anything but engaging with the fans... Or we wouldn't be having this debate... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Good start for Lewis but there all pretty close in the top 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Ooohhhh You mustn't upset the Boys in Red Christian, what a load of BULL! http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/22878002/red-bull-ferrari-row-laurent-mekies-signing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Fiesta on Steroids? That’s the rally car Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) Grid penalties already! http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/22879994/daniel-ricciardo-receives-grid-penalty-home-race Edited March 23, 2018 by Andrew P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Grid penalties already! http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/22879994/daniel-ricciardo-receives-grid-penalty-home-race I simply do not understand that combination of rules - you have to slow sufficiently to ensure due care (which the stewards acknowledge he did do) but you also have to keep to a minimum speed/average time? Eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 23, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2018 I simply do not understand that combination of rules - you have to slow sufficiently to ensure due care (which the stewards acknowledge he did do) but you also have to keep to a minimum speed/average time? Eh? Is it intended to ensure drivers remain separated, rather than Driver A slowing so much the Driver B, also respecting the maximum, finds Driver A unexpectedly going too slowly? Just a guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I simply do not understand that combination of rules - you have to slow sufficiently to ensure due care (which the stewards acknowledge he did do) but you also have to keep to a minimum speed/average time? Eh? Is it intended to ensure drivers remain separated, rather than Driver A slowing so much the Driver B, also respecting the maximum, finds Driver A unexpectedly going too slowly? Just a guess. It's a Rule that is neither one nor touther, and must be a nightmare for a Driver to try and keep within. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I'm sure with the electronics they've got on board these days it wouldn't be an issue... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I'm sure with the electronics they've got on board these days it wouldn't be an issue... Probably to many electronics. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Remote and Armchair booked for 1pm, and now keeping away from here, the Radio and TV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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