The Bigbee Line Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) Y and Z added as this is probably quite popular.. Good morning As part of the setting up of my 'home office' (a dedicated room as opposed to the laptop on my knees in the lounge) I am sorting out various archived material. Amongst this are a load of printouts from TOPS in 2003. I have lists showing the 'Rail Vehicle Code types' with the CARKND, AARKND, Description, Carrying Capacity and GLW Range. Here shown for the "B - Steel Carrying - Bogie" I also did "J6 1 1 1" enquiries to go with my collection of photos. Here SPA 460589... Some wagons had the various pictures printed as a date sheet.. If there is sufficient interest I can scan more. Let me know. Edited January 1, 2018 by The Bigbee Line 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Thanks for posting this information Ernie. I, for one, would love to see some more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2017 Afternoon Ernie, surely by 2003 quite a few of those carkinds were operationally extinct? As far as I'm aware there were only ever two BCAs and by then were departmental, one of them until very recently was still at Stewarts lane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Afternoon Ernie, surely by 2003 quite a few of those carkinds were operationally extinct? As far as I'm aware there were only ever two BCAs and by then were departmental, one of them until very recently was still at Stewarts lane I agree, quite confusing. What BCA became BIA? What are the BCA T and BCB A? Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2017 I agree, quite confusing. What BCA became BIA? What are the BCA T and BCB A? Paul Not sure what a BCB is but it appears some of the wagons EWS built in its initial period of optimistic growth were BCAs not the converted bolster Cs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Not sure what a BCB is but it appears some of the wagons EWS built in its initial period of optimistic growth were BCAs not the converted bolster Cs Thanks, yes I hadn't realised the South Wales conversions with boxes for coils, and no ends were recoded BCA http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/baa/e5fb45b29 A BCB is just an air braked wagon with the vacuum pipe remaining - many of the early BR built air braked wagons were - - B including many BAB. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2017 I remember BABs but I don't think either of the BR BCAs were vac piped and suffix B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Not sure what a BCB isThat’s obvious, Black Country Blues Ok I’ll get my coat 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) Thanks, yes I hadn't realised the South Wales conversions with boxes for coils, and no ends were recoded BCA http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/baa/e5fb45b29 A BCB is just an air braked wagon with the vacuum pipe remaining - many of the early BR built air braked wagons were - - B including many BAB. Paul My only shot of a BCA 900232, in the consist of 6M91, captured at Washwood Heath in April 2004 https://www.flickr.com/photos/55938574@N03/12573442735/in/photolist-ka5btr Edited December 31, 2017 by The Bigbee Line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2017 That's a converted BAA I wonder and it would be a long shot if any of the conversions retained the vac pipe hence BCB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 I don’t remember many if any with a vac pipe during my time at Toton. I’ll look through some of the boring shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 That's a converted BAA I wonder and it would be a long shot if any of the conversions retained the vac pipe hence BCB I believe that the majority of Vacuum through pipes had been removed by the mid 1980’s. When the Alumina from North Blyth to Fortwilliam was running Vacuum fitted with the VB set having PR80XX PAB’s in the consist the PAB’s that came back from works had to have the wooden bung removed and vacuum pipe added! Other than that the last through pipes to be added were the trials to replace the MDV’s in South Wales that led to the MEA. Mark Saunders 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 The listing for Carkind B was during the time that EWS were transferring wagons from Departmental Y & Z codes back to revenue codes S&T YAA reverted to BDA. Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 Y - Service Departments Bogie Freight Vehicles 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) Z - Service Departments 2 Axle Freight Vehicles Edited January 1, 2018 by The Bigbee Line 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2018 Evening Ernie, all the best for the new year That list must have been as a result of the system not being updated as there are several wagons on there that were long gone by 02 certainty the unfitted ones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Evening Ernie, all the best for the new year That list must have been as a result of the system not being updated as there are several wagons on there that were long gone by 02 certainty the unfitted ones I would agree that those lists would not always be up to date, but would rely on someone at 'HQ' making a manual adjustment to the TOPS Code Guide from time to time. (in the late 1980s for a short spell I help to update the TOPS shunt tagging guide for the Western Region, and can confirm that the printed guide often lagged behind the information that was held on the mainframe database, cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now