sn Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) So, this is the start of my new project. It's essentially an exercise in building a layout that folds up so that it can be stored in a small space. It's an end to end layout , fiddle yard to small urban goods yard most likely. This is where I am so far:- I've got a feel for retaining stonewalls, backs of buildings and general 1950's urban grime. Probably no signalling required at all on this one. Like Southport Road Goods (which was on a similar theme and which is here somewhere on RMWEB) I intend to use re-spaced Peco code 75 track (on the normal trackwork at least) I'll also be going for wire in tube operation for points (something I've been successful with on another recent layout) operated from modified Hornby lever frames. (No linkages will be needed over the folding joint!) and I have an idea for some underboard operation of my own uncouplers. (We will see if it really works!) So here we go... Edited June 5, 2018 by sn 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 Had a doodle around some ideas. This is a truncated single line in an urban area that has three separate siding facilities off it (one off them top right of the plan) off stage so-to-speak. The truncated line is effectively used as an arrival/dep road. No run-round loop so traffic is pushed here in one direction (up the grade of course to avoid runaways) The new layout seems to have a new name too! Any thoughts? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 2mmMark Posted January 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2018 Looks like an interesting project. For an interesting scenic break incorporating a road, railway & canal, it might be worth taking a look at Three Bridges near Southall. It's not quite the arrangement you need but there's some visually interesting ideas to be gleaned. Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 Looks like an interesting project. For an interesting scenic break incorporating a road, railway & canal, it might be worth taking a look at Three Bridges near Southall. It's not quite the arrangement you need but there's some visually interesting ideas to be gleaned. Mark Mark, just looked Three Bridges up - what an interesting arrangement that is! Must have made bridge maintenance a nightmare! Glad I'm going for something a tad simpler (unless of I course I come up with something completely different altogether) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.221011056240233&lat=53.0133&lon=-2.2219&layers=168&b=1 https://www.search.staffspasttrack.org.uk/Details.aspx?&ResourceID=4298&PageIndex=1&KeyWord=Newcastle%20goods%20yard&SortOrder=2 I always thought Newcastle Staffs goods yard was a very modellable location with a natural scenic break Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.221011056240233&lat=53.0133&lon=-2.2219&layers=168&b=1 https://www.search.staffspasttrack.org.uk/Details.aspx?&ResourceID=4298&PageIndex=1&KeyWord=Newcastle%20goods%20yard&SortOrder=2 I always thought Newcastle Staffs goods yard was a very modellable location with a natural scenic break Yes indeed , having looked at the link it seems very self contained for the real thing doesn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 A line which has been virtually abandoned and is just clinging to life has always been quite interesting. The Great Western main line from Birmingham to Wolverhampton https://flic.kr/p/W8czto and the Great Central in Nottingham https://flic.kr/p/6o9Y7i Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted January 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2018 Hi there. It looks very promising mate. My only question is if you have no loop then how are you going to work the kickback to the factory? There isn't enough railway to justify a resident shunter so if you push in through the tunnel then the train loco is in the wrong place to work anything to or from the factory kickback. Regards Lez.Z. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 Hi there. It looks very promising mate. My only question is if you have no loop then how are you going to work the kickback to the factory? There isn't enough railway to justify a resident shunter so if you push in through the tunnel then the train loco is in the wrong place to work anything to or from the factory kickback. Regards Lez.Z. Good point Lez. off stage top right from the kickback it is imagined there is a loop. I will physically move the loco off stage from one end to the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 Done a very quick mock up of the layout idea with TRAINZ:- 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sn Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 Decided to ditch the kickback siding to the factory and have a simple fan of three sidings. Started work this morning on the trackbase. Hopefully from the pics you will see where the canal will run under. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 And this view.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 So, the ALDI scroll saw has come into use cutting the wing walls for the bridge. Makes easy work of what was previously a diffuclt task! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 A more general view, there is another %25 or so of track bed to be added at the far end. Trackbed is 5mm exterior ply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 The weekend has seen the canal bridge starting to be built in situ. Slaters embossed stone sheet. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 Wing walls to be attached next and then painting. Thinking ahead to the canal water, what success and failures have others had on this forum with various liquids used to represent canals? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn Posted January 26, 2018 Author Share Posted January 26, 2018 Started work on the rail over rail bridge. The join at the bottom of the pillar in the brick paper will hopefully be covered by some earthworks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teacupteacup Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Very interesting plan, I've always liked urban goods yards Watching this thread with interest! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 Been doing some painting. The shed light makes the grey of the girders look blue in this pic . Top girders not glued down yet hence the gaps! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 The rail over bridge more or less finished.It has, I think, that large commanding structure feel that I was after from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 Started work this afternoon on installing the wire in tube for the. I really like operating points this way in what is essentially the same method as the prototype (minus the tube of course!) The wires are stocked by my local model shop in Formby - I think the radio controlled aero lot use them for internal aeroplane controls. The tube is from B&Q that I bought ages ago with the 4? internal wires pulled out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted February 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2018 I will be interested to see how you get on with the wire in tube. i am planning similar operation for Paisley St James. I found some PTFE Tube on the Bay of E, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-Metre-150V-Teflon-Tubing-PTFE-Tube-Pipe-Inner-x-Outer-0-3-7-64mm-x-0-6-8-06mm/182976792558?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=690288370026&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 And wire https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/0-5mm-24-AWG-Comp-SS317L-TMC-Grade-Stainless-Steel-Wire-4-13-ohms-m/131875443572?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=431221736037&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 I will be using a batch of 50 DPDT Slide switches from Amazon, which will be drilled to accept the wire (cost about £6.00) I have yet to start putting it all together, just waiting for the temperature to rise a bit in the Railway Shed. Regards Ian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 Yep I'm possibly going to use slider switches myself, Ian .That looks like a good price there on Amazon. I find wire in tube reliable cheap and pretty easy to install. I'm always surprised that more of use on here don't use it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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