burgundy Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Joseph_Pestell said: I know that part of Bristol very well. It is not a sensible route for getting a bus back to "The Centre". Actually, it is not a sensible way to take a bus anywhere. The driver must have been well and truly lost to have got that far. Best wishes Eric 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted September 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2020 On 11/09/2020 at 04:39, melmerby said: Another low bridge on a bus route (27) : https://goo.gl/maps/GPkLhZtMwjhPhfkU8 (Bournville next to the Cadbury Factory.) The route has been running since 1935 That bridge looks like the arch has been infilled. Is it possible that the bridge had originally been built with different height entrances? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I don't think so, I think the lower bit is to accommodate the depth of the canal beside the railway. The lower height is just carried through so there is not a step in the "tunnel", which I imaging would be a weak spot. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Both these incidents were related to journeys introduced to relieve the local bus services and allow social distancing to be maintained on the service journeys. Bus operators have been frantically gathering together as many spare vehicles and drivers as they could muster to provide these. Aside from issues with getting enough drivers with completed DBS checks to drive them, they’ve also been moving staff around depots to balance supply and demand. The Stagecoach driver was a new recruit on his first day and as was evident, the vehicle in Bristol (Operated by a small independent) was reportedly in an area unfamiliar to the driver. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted September 14, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) Bridge bashing with a difference. Some of the wagons were loaded with cars. Edited September 14, 2020 by PhilJ W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: Bridge bashing with a difference. Some of the wagons were loaded with cars. In the early days of the Channel Tunnel, there was a car train from Frethun to somewhere in England (Corby?) The people loading the train had put the upper deck into the 'High' position to make loading easier; unfortunately no-one thought to check it had subsequently been lowered. It passed through the Channel Tunnel without any problem, but then travelled through Saltwood Tunnel, which is to UK loading gauge. Those vehicles with roof-bars had lost them, and a lot of paintwork was scratched. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 4 hours ago, PhilJ W said: Bridge bashing with a difference. Some of the wagons were loaded with cars. Technically, those are cars, full of autos.... 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 and another https://www.wigantoday.net/news/transport/wigan-road-closed-after-vehicle-crashes-bridge-2974716?fbclid=IwAR15Auy5owEddyKyeIEX1bPKvXQO4xGqgkTOGddd-PuvR4M-IEFFt5h7pFg 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 When will drivers know the height of their vehicles they should be fined and maybe banned but will they? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 hours ago, lmsforever said: When will drivers know the height of their vehicles they should be fined and maybe banned but will they? instant p45 in most cases tea & biscuits with local traffic commissioner usualy resulting in suspension of All vocational licences for 6-12 months untill after any prosecution plus fines and a forensic investigation of tachograph history of driver and company records believe me having been in a company where this happens it ain't fun .then any points and fines from court 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 3 hours ago, lmsforever said: they should be fined and maybe banned but will they? Yes. They are. It's just that there's a helluva lot of HGV & PSV Drivers, but a very small percentage ruin the reputation of the vast majority. As discussed earlier in the Thread, there are also more inexperienced drivers out there than there used to be. Be afraid. Be VERY afraid. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 13 hours ago, peanuts said: instant p45 in most cases tea & biscuits with local traffic commissioner usualy resulting in suspension of All vocational licences for 6-12 months untill after any prosecution plus fines and a forensic investigation of tachograph history of driver and company records believe me having been in a company where this happens it ain't fun .then any points and fines from court Not in all cases. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted September 18, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 18, 2020 I'm curious as the train seems to be a class 150 in Arriva livery so presumably not in Kent. Wales? Though most TfW units have been repainted now. So will deliveries be late to our local Polish shop? Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted September 18, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 18, 2020 It says 4 metres/13 feet on the bridge sign. 4 metres is 13 feet 1.5 inches. I wonder if some signs have even greater discrepancies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: It says 4 metres/13 feet on the bridge sign. 4 metres is 13 feet 1.5 inches. I wonder if some signs have even greater discrepancies. Your close, it states 4.1 meters/13 feet, which a standard 4 meter truck should fit under. But 13 feet is 3.9 meters which a 4 meter truck obviously doesn't. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted September 18, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 18, 2020 43 minutes ago, bigherb said: Your close, it states 4.1 meters/13 feet, which a standard 4 meter truck should fit under. But 13 feet is 3.9 meters which a 4 meter truck obviously doesn't. 20 centimetres is a whopping 8 inches in old money. If that sort of discrepancy is common its no surprise that continental drivers and many younger drivers who have only been taught metric keep hitting bridges. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 That depend on which is actually the correct dimension !!?! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted September 18, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 18, 2020 Whatever dimension is correct its going to make a lot of money for the lawyers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Wickham Green too said: That depend on which is actually the correct dimension !!?! It could actually be neither, it is not unknown for clearance to be incorrectly lower after road resurfacing, but in this case 13' appears to be closest. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted September 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2020 21 hours ago, PhilJ W said: 20 centimetres is a whopping 8 inches in old money. If that sort of discrepancy is common its no surprise that continental drivers and many younger drivers who have only been taught metric keep hitting bridges. The closet to match the signage and keeping under is 4.1 Metres 13 foot 5.4 inches., which is not an 8 inch leeway. Shouldn't matter what they are taught in school or which country they are from, the bridge is marked in BOTH systems. The driver should know the height in BOTH measurements, if driving in the UK. So either the driver has got it wrong OR the height marking of the sign is wrong - the latter is possible, but unless the road has recently been modified in some way, then unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted September 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 18/09/2020 at 09:41, bigherb said: Your close, it states 4.1 meters/13 feet, which a standard 4 meter truck should fit under. But 13 feet is 3.9 meters which a 4 meter truck obviously doesn't. 2 hours ago, kevinlms said: The closet to match the signage and keeping under is 4.1 Metres 13 foot 5.4 inches., which is not an 8 inch leeway. Shouldn't matter what they are taught in school or which country they are from, the bridge is marked in BOTH systems. The driver should know the height in BOTH measurements, if driving in the UK. So either the driver has got it wrong OR the height marking of the sign is wrong - the latter is possible, but unless the road has recently been modified in some way, then unlikely. As pointed out, 13 feet is not 4.1 metres but is considerably less which in this instance as pointed out is 5.4 inches (13 feet is 3.96 metres). Thats still a difference of nearly five and a half inches. If your driving 44 tons of HGV that is 4 metres high and the sign says 4.1 metres you have every right to expect it to be the indicated height and the margin of error between the two systems should be far less than in this case (5.4 inches, nearly 3%). 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted September 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2020 56 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: As pointed out, 13 feet is not 4.1 metres but is considerably less which in this instance as pointed out is 5.4 inches (13 feet is 3.96 metres). Thats still a difference of nearly five and a half inches. If your driving 44 tons of HGV that is 4 metres high and the sign says 4.1 metres you have every right to expect it to be the indicated height and the margin of error between the two systems should be far less than in this case (5.4 inches, nearly 3%). Have I missed something? How does anyone know that the truck is 4.0 metres tall? Perhaps the sign in imperial should read 13 ft 3in, but no more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted September 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2020 The bottom line is the disparity between the two dimensions. There's probably some disparity on almost every bridge that is signed as this one is but it should never be as much as in this case. It should be no more than a couple of inches or five centimetres. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, kevinlms said: Have I missed something? How does anyone know that the truck is 4.0 metres tall? Perhaps the sign in imperial should read 13 ft 3in, but no more. Because that is the normal Euro truck max height. It shouldn't be marked 13ft 3in because the bridge is only 13ft/3.9mtr not the 4.1mtr what the sign says. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chris116 Posted September 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2020 If the sign says 4.1m and the lorry is 4m then the company who owns the lorry has a claim for damage to the lorry, loss of earnings while the lorry is off the road and damages to their reputation. Who is responsible for the height restriction sign? Is it National Rail or the local road authority? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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