RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2017 Maybe not, but it has been discussed in this thread! Edit: and for those that haven't seen it, this was the image linked in another thread: http://s1.1zoom.me/big0/311/374296-sepik.jpg Roy Ah, one of those Nelsons with the silly little chimney. Thanks you so much I am now convinced and saying twenty hail Mary's for being an ar$£. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Quite so, but that would be relatively easy to address by employing somebody (probably on a pro-rata contract basis) to provide that knowledge and to identify obvious issues. Over time there is no reason why a Chinese manufacturer shouldn't develop sufficient expertise to be largely independent. The Chinese may need some guidance on what to produce and to avoid pitfalls associated with item specific details but that can probably be addresses by retaining an individual on a contract basis. If a Chinese manufacturer plays it well they could probably attract the right person from an existing producer. Not so sure. It seems to me that the history of railways is a very specialist business in itself. I doubt if their is anybody around who has such an in depth knowledge of the subject that they can safely espouse all aspects of the history of railways. There are a number of reasons that so many models are released with defects but one of them is certainly that the RTR manufacturers don't pass their products past specialists early enough in the design and build process. All too often products are released to market and then the poo hits the fan here on RMweb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Maybe not, but it has been discussed in this thread! Edit: and for those that haven't seen it, this was the image linked in another thread: http://s1.1zoom.me/big0/311/374296-sepik.jpg Roy What's behind the engine is interesting. Now, Night Ferry stock would go very well with their 71 too - and note the RB also in the formation: E5014_NightFerry_15-10-67 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Other motive power would also be suitable: 31753_BB_Night-Ferry_c1959 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Then what about some 1951 Golden Arrow Pullmans? Hornby seem to like Pullman cars. 34100_nrPaddockWood upGoldenArrow_20-5-61 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2017 I want Ironclad stock! And a LSWR Adams T3 or T6! How about one of those thugly Drummond Paddleboxes too? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2017 Talking of Southern... How about a Atlantic Coast Express Train Pack with add on coach packs to make up the full formation, There would of course need to be some new releases to make this a reality, but I don't think I'd complain about that. D. Rummond 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2017 Lined Maunsell green Radial...... Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2017 Something significant for the GWR must be on the cards and a new Prairie would seem an obvious choice - perhaps with a matching set of non-corridor stock. But to judge from some of Hornby's odd choices in previous years it will probably be The Great Bear which would be a massive anti-climax and about as much use as an inflatable dartboard. Gerry Strange though it might sound I wouldn't be surprised if a properly executed 'Great bear' sold like hot cakes. very much left of field, a singleton, impressive looking, and so on. Done as a Railroad model with some attached detail it might actually work commercially. the problem is the 'might actually work' bit so no one is likely to take the risk in this day and age. As for a decent large prairie plus suitable coaches - yes please, bring them on (properly researched and modelled unlike Dapol's weird 'place holder' effort obviously). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2017 Heljan found a nice niche making models of obscure prototype and pilot scheme diesel locomotives (most of which I never expected to see as RTR models) so I think that one offs may be quite viable. I must admit, I'd love to see Hornby do the Great Bear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2017 Not so sure. It seems to me that the history of railways is a very specialist business in itself. I doubt if their is anybody around who has such an in depth knowledge of the subject that they can safely espouse all aspects of the history of railways. There are a number of reasons that so many models are released with defects but one of them is certainly that the RTR manufacturers don't pass their products past specialists early enough in the design and build process. All too often products are released to market and then the poo hits the fan here on RMweb. If they got the right individual then that person would be a portal to a much wider knowledge pool in the same way that the British based manufacturers clearly reach out to appropriate experts to support their prototype research. If doing a research and development job in some ways it is less important that people know the answers (by definition, if you work in research and development you'll be finding answers and working on projects with a lot of unknowns) than knowing how to undertake research, identify and use sources of information etc. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2017 one of these please... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2017 one of these please... Shunter at Angel Road Gasworks, North London.jpg They have a Sentinel chassis under the diesel one so to do a steam outline body (that looks like a diesel) must be a good idea. The real diesel ones were rebuilt on the chassis of the steam ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2017 What's behind the engine is interesting. Now, Night Ferry stock would go very well with their 71 too - and note the RB also in the formation: E5014_NightFerry_15-10-67 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Other motive power would also be suitable: 31753_BB_Night-Ferry_c1959 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Then what about some 1951 Golden Arrow Pullmans? Hornby seem to like Pullman cars. 34100_nrPaddockWood upGoldenArrow_20-5-61 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Now we are getting somewhere. Is there some 2018 link to the Ferry or Arrow? Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Talking of Southern... How about a Atlantic Coast Express Train Pack with add on coach packs to make up the full formation, There would of course need to be some new releases to make this a reality, but I don't think I'd complain about that. D. Rummond what i would like to see is a Munsell Buffet car or restaurant , they have never made one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Now we are getting somewhere. Is there some 2018 link to the Ferry or Arrow? Phil Not that I can think of. The British Golden Arrow began in 1929 (the French train had begun a few years earlier) and the Night Ferry in 1936. They ceased to run in 1972 and 1980 respectively. There are several other potential things to mark in 2018, such as the centenary of the end of WW1, 50 years since the end of steam on BR, 70 years since nationalisation and 95 years since the Grouping. I expect that commemorating the Grouping is being saved up until 2023. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 what i would like to see is a Munsell Buffet car or restaurant , they have never made one. I agree, a Maunsell catering car would be good. There were lots of conversions but some remained in substantially original form as restaurant firsts with kitchen right through until withdrawal. Hornby already have a suitable open third to serve as a dining car to go with it. Come to think of it, I don't recall that third as having been done in crimson and cream. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2017 what i would like to see is a Munsell Buffet car or restaurant , they have never made one. Yes, it would be amazing if Hornby were to 'expand' their beautiful Maunsell range with one of the catering coaches. I was also just thinking last evening that a BRSR Green Pullman Car might just appear as well, having yet again checked the formation of a special at Seaton Juntion in 1958? If Bachman were to take a step forward with their aged Bulleid range then that would be just what the Doctor ordered, however that has been discussed at length on several occasions. D2406 BCK please. Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class 74 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 What's behind the engine is interesting. Now, Night Ferry stock would go very well with their 71 too - and note the RB also in the formation: E5014_NightFerry_15-10-67 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Fun fact: LS Models made the French sleepers (model F)!!! But of course in 1:87... here they are: http://gibitrains.pagesperso-orange.fr/train/voiture-lits_f-lsmodels.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class 74 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 How about one of those thugly Drummond Paddleboxes too? Ok, keep it short... everything from Drummond and Maunsell that isn't released yet! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2017 Ok, keep it short... everything from Drummond and Maunsell that isn't released yet! Id go with that as long as it was Drummond before he moved sarf. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Lined Maunsell green Radial...... Rob. If your track is flat (LOL) then the Oxford Olive green is a lovely runner and very competitively priced: https://www.track-shack.com/acatalog/Oxford-Rail-OR76AR006-OO-Gauge-Adams-4-4-2T-Southern-3520-Oxford-Rail-GM-OR76AR006.html £85, two left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Andy W Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2017 Ok, keep it short... everything from Drummond and Maunsell that isn't released yet! Id go with that as long as it was Drummond before he moved sarf. Do be careful what you wish for. Peter Drummond produced some interesting locos for the Highland and for the Glasgow & South Western, do you only want the Highland ones, or were you thinking of brother Dugald? And does Class74 want SECR/SR locos, or the ones Maunsell was responsible for during his time at the Great Southern & Western of Ireland? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class 74 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Do be careful what you wish for. Peter Drummond produced some interesting locos for the Highland and for the Glasgow & South Western, do you only want the Highland ones, or were you thinking of brother Dugald? And does Class74 want SECR/SR locos, or the ones Maunsell was responsible for during his time at the Great Southern & Western of Ireland? Dammit... too much informations! ;-) I'm still learning 'bout the Southern stuff, yes I know he was from Ireland, but for me just everything south of London! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2017 Do be careful what you wish for. Peter Drummond produced some interesting locos for the Highland and for the Glasgow & South Western, do you only want the Highland ones, or were you thinking of brother Dugald? And does Class74 want SECR/SR locos, or the ones Maunsell was responsible for during his time at the Great Southern & Western of Ireland? Well I’d settle for anything by Peter Drummond , but of course you are correct it’s Dugald Drummond and his Caley locos I’m primarily interested in 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2017 Well I’d settle for anything by Peter Drummond , but of course you are correct it’s Dugald Drummond and his Caley locos I’m primarily interested in So what you really need is a McKernow north of the border.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulzer27jd Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 So what you really need is a McKernow north of the border.... What we need is for one of the major manufacturers to do a tie-in with our national railway museum in the same way as they have done with York. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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