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This is an appeal for help.  In the picture below there is what appears to be a chimney passing through the glazed section of the overall roof in the centre of the picture, just before the roof ends and the platforms have separate canopies.. 

 

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Does anyone know what this is, and what was underneath the roof? I can't find pictures that show anything and unfortunately this is the section I am building at the moment!

 

Any suggestions gratefully received.

 

Added later - I've answered my own question, the chimney came out of the Telegraph Office. Why it needed such a huge chimney I don't know, but now I can include it on the model.

 

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Peter

Hi.....

Just thinking and perhaps that is a dangerous thing for myself.....but if it were not a flue....was it anything to do with a ventilation shaft for the adjacent underpass which ran beneath the tracks to Great Charles Street....?

The design profile seems different from the earlier images and it is fashioned possibly out of blue brick by the look of it, other chimneys seems to be terracotta brick on the earlier builds....but seems to be there in the 1930's...

Regards always...

Bob

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The chimney lasted right up to the final closure of the station. A friend of mine took pictures in 1972 where the top is visible. Search Flickr for 'Invader1009' in People and I think you will find one that Stephen took from the track off the end of Up side bays. 

Even though I frequented the station regularly from about 1959 to closure I don't recall seeing any coal delivered upstairs. As any boiler room would probably have been at ground level I would think it more likely to be delivered by cart from Hockley to the yard below. I can't find any reference so far to the station heating system and how it was fired. I don't think ventilation down below would be a problem as the sides were open to the air for a long stretch. 

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I've made good progress with the fourth board; the aim is to deliver the finished diorama on Friday. 

 

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I've deliberately swapped the position of the stairs and the lift shaft because there are timbers supporting the platform which I didn't want to disturb; also the shaft would have masked the stairs. The girder that will support the end screen isn't fixed in place yet, it's just standing in position. 

 

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The crossover uses two B8 points, and they just fitted! On a non working diorama you can do things that you wouldn't want on a working layout. 

 

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Some more pictures showing today's work; the next batch, fingers crossed, should show the finished article.

 

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The area where the glass screen is cut away to clear the top of the lift looks odd, but that's what the real thing did. I wonder if it was a mistake, or was planned like that. 

 

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Hi Peter,

Just catching up on your progress, stunning modelling.  Absolutely wonderful.  Am I right in thinking your stone papers that were used on the footbridge floor are available for purchase?

 

Can I ask how you created the steps (is it card/plasticard or wood?) and the bannister - I know you said York Modelmaking laser cut the latter for you, what material was it?

 

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Hi Rich,

 

The glazed brick was created especially for this model, but once I've got the artwork I'm happy to sell sheets of it to anyone, as with any of the other sheets. My standard range is just a fraction of what I've got available. 

 

The steps on the model were made from some dense foamboard that arrived as packing in a parcel, it just happened to be the right thickness and it was easy to cut. The structure underneath is all plastic card, mostly 2mm/80 thou, and the bannisters are the laser cut plastic items. The steps are just painted grey with Tamiya acrylics, not covered in paper.

 

It seems odd looking again at this end of the model when I've been concentrating on the Great Charles Street side of things. 

 

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Hi Rich,

 

The glazed brick was created especially for this model, but once I've got the artwork I'm happy to sell sheets of it to anyone, as with any of the other sheets. My standard range is just a fraction of what I've got available. 

 

The steps on the model were made from some dense foamboard that arrived as packing in a parcel, it just happened to be the right thickness and it was easy to cut. The structure underneath is all plastic card, mostly 2mm/80 thou, and the bannisters are the laser cut plastic items. The steps are just painted grey with Tamiya acrylics, not covered in paper.

 

It seems odd looking again at this end of the model when I've been concentrating on the Great Charles Street side of things. 

 

Peter

Thanks for the detailed reply Peter,

Sorry to labour a point, but what was the plastic material and width that you used for the bannisters? It looks remarkably realistic on the model?

 

I’ve tried painting foam board before with dire consequences! Do you cover or seal it at all before using the Tamiya paints?

 

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The bannisters are laser cut in 1mm thick white plastic; it's not Polystyrene, I'm not sure what it is. I stick it with Evostick which is fine and it takes paint well. I put upside down Plastruct U channel over the top for the handrails and end posts. 

 

I normally avoid foamboard like the plague, but his was very dense and took the paint OK, but as it came as packaging I don't know what it was or where to order any more. If it had been the normal soft sort I would have covered it with paper. 

 

I hope this helps,

 

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I delivered Snow Hill this morning, and it is now in a room in a house where it will live between shows. Unfortunately the lighting wasn't great but these picture will give a flavour of how is looks all in one piece with stock on it. The fist public appearance will be at the Steam museum exhibition in Swindon in March.

 

I think the pictures look as though a thunder storm is just about to break- quite atmospheric, and completely accidental.  

 

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It's funny how it's always quarter to one in the pictures! 

 

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The intention is to display stock from various periods during exhibitions; the colours on the station would have remained the same from 1910 to about 1953, so other than the posters very little would have changed. 

 

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I'm going back in a couple of weeks to install the umbrella canopies, so this area looks a bit bare at the moment. We decided to remove the buffer stops so make the tracks in the bay as long as possible; I'll be adding a wooden beam instead.

 

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I delivered Snow Hill this morning, and it is now in a room in a house where it will live between shows. Unfortunately the lighting wasn't great but these picture will give a flavour of how is looks all in one piece with stock on it. The fist public appearance will be at the Steam museum exhibition in Swindon in March.

 

I think the pictures look as though a thunder storm is just about to break- quite atmospheric, and completely accidental.  

 

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It's funny how it's always quarter to one in the pictures! 

 

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The intention is to display stock from various periods during exhibitions; the colours on the station would have remained the same from 1910 to about 1953, so other than the posters very little would have changed. 

 

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I'm going back in a couple of weeks to install the umbrella canopies, so this area looks a bit bare at the moment. We decided to remove the buffer stops so make the tracks in the bay as long as possible; I'll be adding a wooden beam instead.

 

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Peter

 

Absolutely stunning Peter, Platform '7' reincarnated.....!

Regards always....

Bob

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When I delivered the model we mentioned that it was a shame that the clock always shows the same time. It isn't possible to use a real clock, it's too small (the smallest I've found are 30mm), so I've done a variety of clock faces to suit the departure times to Paddington. It should be possible to put these over the existing clock with a little Blutak, and match the time on the clock to the train in the picture. 

 

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Snow Hill is now complete and I've been over today to take more pictures.  The best ones are reserved for an article which will appear in BRM, but here are a few of the others.

 

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Unfortunately the supports that the layout is resting on at the moment aren't level which makes it look a bit odd when you look along it...when it goes out to shows that will have been resolved. 

 

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Snow Hill is now complete and I've been over today to take more pictures.  The best ones are reserved for an article which will appear in BRM, but here are a few of the others.

 

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Unfortunately the supports that the layout is resting on at the moment aren't level which makes it look a bit odd when you look along it...when it goes out to shows that will have been resolved. 

 

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Peter

HI....

I spy my '7'.....!

 

Brilliant work my friend.....

 

Regards always...

Bob

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