Andy Y Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Kernow Model Rail Centre Press Release - Hornby Mk3 DVT Network Rail OO Gauge At the Warley Model Railway Exhibition last weekend we showed several sneak previews of forthcoming models. The first of these is now available to pre-order - R4869 Hornby Mk3 Driving Van Trailer number 82124 in Network Rail livery. This is the standard Hornby model and is DCC Ready with an 8 pin DCC socket. Used on Network Rail test trains these DVTs can be seen throughout the UK. The models are expected to arrive during the 1st Quarter of 2018 and are priced at £69.99 plus postage. Direct product link http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/58168/R4869-Hornby-Mk3-Driving-Van-Trailer-number-82124-Network-Rai 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JDW Posted December 1, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2017 I'm surprised no one else has responded to this yet, let me be the first to say that it is abysmal, an absolute disgrace that KMRC haven't gone to the trouble of changing the whole mould and just printed that terrible grille on the door, and like 99% of prospective buyers I won't buy one. But at least I'm saying it tongue in cheek. I'm sure someone will be along soon to complain about it. It looks quite nice I think, its tempting but I can't really justify it - will there be matching mk2s to follow I wonder? Even at £69.99 (sounds so much better than £70 doesn't it!) I'm sure it will be popular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) Good to see a return of Network Rail coaches. Model Rail seemed to lose interest after the Mk1 Generator. Other potential coaches that can be produced from Hornby's Mk2e or Bachmann's upcoming Mk2f are: Mk2e: Radio Survey Coach 1 Track Inspection Coach 2 Mk2f: Plain Line Pattern Recognition ( 3 from RFB) - did run under the DB IM contract with the DVT and class 67. Radio Survey Coach 3 Structural Gauging Vechile 2 Electric Monitoring Vechile (though needs a pantograph well) Of course, various brake coaches and staff coaches from the Mk2e and Mk2f toolings. Edited December 2, 2017 by 159220 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
warringtonbankquay Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Are the Network Rail DVTs actually used much these days? There are a few videos on the Internet of trial runs in 2014/15, mainly with DBS Class 67s, but not a lot after that. Colas seem to top 'n' tail test trains or use RTOV ex DBSOs. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) Are the Network Rail DVTs actually used much these days? Not currently. When the IM contract was won by Colas Rail Freight, there were no longer any 67s to operate the PLPR train with a DVT. Yes the DVTs did see IM services formed of a 67-(Brake)-PLPR1/2/4-DVT. PLPR3 is *meant* to be dedicated to the Southern. At the time of contract transfer, NR started to modify the DVTs further, which added significant to their weight. As such, they were too heavy for their approved design, since then, NR Data Collection have been trying to get new approvals. There have been some tests in 2017. I understand the intention is till to use, but their original plan to run as dedicated PLPR trains topped by a 67 or a 73/9 has somewhat changed. PLPR is now mixed in with EMV & RSCs. Watch this space, I am! The DVT is correct for operation on PLPR trains with DB 67s, and of course the earlier testing, when usually they there doubled in a formation. But 82124 saw very little use with the DB contract, though there has been some recent testing with Colas Rail Freight 67s. I was always disappointed Hornby chose to model 67013 in DB Red, as this never worked with any of the DVTs. Edited December 2, 2017 by 159220 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted December 2, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) How the heck did this slip under my radar? Gonna get one ordered I recon, was thinking of respraying one of the cheap silver DB ones but this will save a lot of hassle The real things aren’t being used much at all at the moment as they are limited to where they can run due to gauging issues, on top of that there are only a number of drivers who sign them (I need a refresh on them) but I have taken them formed as a train before now while training on 67s, even had 73138 on the rear! And some early testing when DB has the contract Edited December 2, 2017 by big jim 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
warringtonbankquay Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Thanks 159220 and Big Jim. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevesthecat Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Just a thought but does this suggest there is a regular run of DVT's in a different Livery due from Hornby in January? When Bachmann do a limited edition it is usually a different Livery tagged on the end of a normal production model of that type? Do Hornby work the same way? Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravensdmufan Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) Just a thought but does this suggest there is a regular run of DVT's in a different Livery due from Hornby in January? When Bachmann do a limited edition it is usually a different Livery tagged on the end of a normal production model of that type? Do Hornby work the same way? Mark Be nice to see re-release of an INTERCITY one to go with new 87 010 Edit: and if we could have the facility of being able to attach a front coupling for dragging purposes that would be fantastic, thank you! Edited December 3, 2017 by cravensdmufan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Shame the same old crappy tooling is being used and instead let's just flog a dead horse and cynically slap another livery on the existing DVT...painted on light clusters anyone. Would I buy one? Not sure at this stage and would only be swayed by the fact I have all the other Network Rail coaches and loco's thus might as well add this until someone else comes along in a few years and re-tools it, based on the forthcoming OO Gauge Class 90 & 92 I highly doubt it will be Hornby. JDW, I'll be that person for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted December 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2017 Erm ok classy, I suggest you have another look at the advert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Shame the same old crappy tooling is being used and instead let's just flog a dead horse and cynically slap another livery on the existing DVT...painted on light clusters anyone. Would I buy one? Not sure at this stage and would only be swayed by the fact I have all the other Network Rail coaches and loco's thus might as well add this until someone else comes along in a few years and re-tools it, based on the forthcoming OO Gauge Class 90 & 92 I highly doubt it will be Hornby. JDW, I'll be that person for you Are you possibly thinking of Hornby’s Mk. IV DVT? The Mk. III is in a different league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Are you possibly thinking of Hornby’s Mk. IV DVT? The Mk. III is in a different league. I was thinking the same. I remember Hornby producing a "Mk3 DVT" in Virgin livery a few years ago, then being disappointed to find out it was a Mk4 in Virgin's red livery, as used on the WCML. I am glad they put this right & the proper Mk3B is a nice model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWT442 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Could well be tempted by one of these, it's certainly something a bit different. Here's a couple of pics I got of one of the NR DVT's, I assume being tested. 82111 & 67027 working 5Z68 Northampton to Derby RTC through Cathiron - 29.05.2014 82111 & 67027 and the same stock, this time working 5Z67 Derby RTC to Northampton. This working made it as far Stafford before being sent back to Derby - 30.05.2014 Andy. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage Tim Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 You chaps need to stop posting pictures of the real thing in various different consists- You're giving me far too many ideas about purchasing one (or several..) of the model! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Erm ok classy, I suggest you have another look at the advert Are you possibly thinking of Hornby’s Mk. IV DVT? The Mk. III is in a different league. Most humble apologies, yes was thinking of the Mk4 DVT. Also looking at the Kernow advert noticed the extra sensors haven't been fitted to driving end on this particular DVT which are quite evident on the prototype, do you think Hornby will bother or will it be a case of nearly there but no cigar like their last NR HST release (front end colour issues)? I have researched images of 82124 and couldn't find any where it didn't have the extra bits fitted on the front end, unless someone has prototypical images of 82124 without the sensors? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted December 30, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 30, 2017 Most humble apologies, yes was thinking of the Mk4 DVT. Also looking at the Kernow advert noticed the extra sensors haven't been fitted to driving end on this particular DVT which are quite evident on the prototype, do you think Hornby will bother or will it be a case of nearly there but no cigar like their last NR HST release (front end colour issues)? I have researched images of 82124 and couldn't find any where it didn't have the extra bits fitted on the front end, unless someone has prototypical images of 82124 without the sensors? So I have learned something here. 82124 has in fact not had the extra bit fitted to the end circa 2013. See attached photo. Not my photo though. https://www.flickr.com/photos/dan700/14694559025/in/photolist-oovsrX-TVrwSD-kcm69c-aoEcNo-9qHfzY-fsytYY-SkbxYm-jGE4eR-LKMcfB-EWLJ5E-KyvqEH-peFSVE-e6SJgu-kFWrui-XpMhs6-braJj7-VHK559-dZBfWm-8WoFuR-dAyRey-oVca3G-eGqvvz-jRSrbr-fuWSUR-226ArU7-jEQPno-oUXwQr-8xsY3P-fuWSSH-9YixhD-oXfQ8N-RZuAkV-EryiPs-oVd5ub-e6SJFm-8WoF42-p6RXJR-R5FgCJ-82UNQM-efqpAv-phW4tb-VjvbNj-8WrJDy-oXcVx2-dQg2b5-pcTGie-jRSrrg-phW6LC-nm7AB4-oWMuzV Hope this helps. Sorry for the long link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 So I have learned something here. 82124 has in fact not had the extra bit fitted to the end circa 2013. See attached photo. Not my photo though. https://www.flickr.com/photos/dan700/14694559025/in/photolist-oovsrX-TVrwSD-kcm69c-aoEcNo-9qHfzY-fsytYY-SkbxYm-jGE4eR-LKMcfB-EWLJ5E-KyvqEH-peFSVE-e6SJgu-kFWrui-XpMhs6-braJj7-VHK559-dZBfWm-8WoFuR-dAyRey-oVca3G-eGqvvz-jRSrbr-fuWSUR-226ArU7-jEQPno-oUXwQr-8xsY3P-fuWSSH-9YixhD-oXfQ8N-RZuAkV-EryiPs-oVd5ub-e6SJFm-8WoF42-p6RXJR-R5FgCJ-82UNQM-efqpAv-phW4tb-VjvbNj-8WrJDy-oXcVx2-dQg2b5-pcTGie-jRSrrg-phW6LC-nm7AB4-oWMuzV Hope this helps. Sorry for the long link. DRS Crewe thanks, must have missed that one within Google Images. Thus this model would represent pre-2014 or thereabouts which helps out a lot especially when people model or collect for specific time periods/era's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted December 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2017 You could always just add the bits yourself, a few bars of plastistrip would do the job for the led light strips Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2018 You chaps need to stop posting pictures of the real thing in various different consists- You're giving me far too many ideas about purchasing one (or several..) of the model! Head up for tomorrow, all being well I will have 37099 and 37254 top and tail a test train with a DVT buried in the formation which will actually be recording the track via the yellow painted wheels which have sensors in them All I need to do now is figure out how to fit a front coupling to the Hornby model! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted July 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2018 All I need to do now is figure out how to fit a front coupling to the Hornby model! A wire loop would be sufficient wouldn’t it? Not that obtrusive and would preserve all the detailing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2018 The dvt never made it out last night, caused too many problems so was taken from the consist The consolation was 37s in fine fettle top and tail in multi with 3 coaches shifted somewhat! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCML100 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 23/12/2017 at 00:36, SWT442 said: Could well be tempted by one of these, it's certainly something a bit different. Here's a couple of pics I got of one of the NR DVT's, I assume being tested. 82111 & 67027 working 5Z68 Northampton to Derby RTC through Cathiron - 29.05.2014 82111 & 67027 and the same stock, this time working 5Z67 Derby RTC to Northampton. This working made it as far Stafford before being sent back to Derby - 30.05.2014 Andy. Sorry to resurrect an old thread - but could you (or anyone else?) identify the x2 coach numbers in this consist please? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bendall Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 10 hours ago, WCML100 said: Sorry to resurrect an old thread - but could you (or anyone else?) identify the x2 coach numbers in this consist please? thanks BSO is brake force runner 9516, TSO is PLPR test coach 72616. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCML100 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 11 hours ago, Simon Bendall said: BSO is brake force runner 9516, TSO is PLPR test coach 72616. thanks for the info - much appreciated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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