davknigh Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Hi all, As requested, here's the dimensions of the chassis frames for the 16" Andrew Barclay. AB_Chassis_Dimensions.jpg Cheers, Dave As an addition to this information Tom from Hattons very kindly let me know that the weight of the EP sample is about 125g. Cheers, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 https://goo.gl/maps/6sfNPTdWTSw P That takes me back. I was on my way to visit my brother one dark night, took a wrong turn and ended up with this view in my headlights. Just a little eerie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Warrior Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Forgive me if this has been covered before, but are the bodyshells for the 14" and the 16" Barclays essentially the same, or are we looking at two separate entities here? Thanks. The tanks and the boilers on the 16 inch are larger. See my photos in post 229 on p10 of this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 The tanks and the boilers on the 16 inch are larger. See my photos in post 229 on p10 of this thread. And slightly longer. The frames of the 16" also come up above the footplate. Note that there are two versions of tank on the 16" - one lower than the other (the CPC has one, the lined black version the taller, and therefore larger, tank). Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Warrior Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Hi Down_Under The cabs are a separate item in the tooling that slot on to the back of the boiler. However, the cabs in our tooling are based on the earlier cabs with overhanging roof (formed of two sheets of metal) rather than the roof being part of the side sheet of the cab (with the curved transition between cab side and roof) as shown in your images. Also, the chassis' for the 14" & 16" are very slightly different lengths. Whilst the cylinders may be interchangeable between the two, it would be quite tight to do so due to that small difference in length. Cheers, Dave This photo, taken in 2010 during the reassembly of Ferrybridge No 3 (14 inch built 1954) after overhaul at EVR, may be helpful to show the construction of the later cabs, not modeled by Hattons. Thanks Dave for the info re the tooling for the cabs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Warrior Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) And slightly longer. The frames of the 16" also come up above the footplate. Note that there are two versions of tank on the 16" - one lower than the other (the CPC has one, the lined black version the taller, and therefore larger, tank). Adam Yes the boiler takes up more space in the cab of the 16 inch, as I have mentioned in a previous post, thus making firing more tricky. I fire both! Edited September 22, 2017 by Unknown Warrior Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meld9003 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 One question about the EPs. Has anybody mentioned the upper and lower edges to the saddle tanks? They look a bit sharp to me and it would be nice if they could be a bit more rounded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted September 22, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2017 Hatton's have posted the best selling Barclays https://www.hattons.co.uk/NewsDetail.aspx?id=193 Interesting to see what's top of the pops. Cheers, Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Hatton's have posted the best selling Barclays https://www.hattons.co.uk/NewsDetail.aspx?id=193 Interesting to see what's top of the pops. Cheers, Keith Isn’t that odd? One SE&CR green version at no. 1 but the other at no. 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Isn’t that odd? One SE&CR green version at no. 1 but the other at no. 10. Possibly because, given they're so similar, people who don't care so much which one they get, so long as they get a green SECR one, are just going for the first in the list. It's interesting that the Bluebell version is second, though. Apart from the fact that it's an attractive livery in its own right, does that indicate that modelling the preserved scene is getting more popular? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) I don't know size wise how accurate the Hattons mock ups are but this might help visualise some of the differences in frame lengths and tank height on different models. P Edited September 23, 2017 by Porcy Mane 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted September 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 23, 2017 I don't know size wise how accurate the Hattons mock ups are but this might help visualise some of the differences in frame lengths and tank height on different models. Hattons-AB-MockUps16'Katieto14'705Sm.gif P In my best parrot voice, "whose a clever boy then"? That is nicely done and really does show the differences. As you say, the image sizes may not be perfect, but it still does help. Thank you. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Hatton's have posted the best selling Barclays https://www.hattons.co.uk/NewsDetail.aspx?id=193 Interesting to see what's top of the pops. Cheers, Keith Interesting Katie is top, the model with out any ownership tag which can be used anywhere. Well that's why I've ordered it and Coronation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Perhaps the BBC got it wrong and Katherine (with all its variants) is the most popular name for females. How better to justify a new purchase? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41160596 (It wouldn’t surprise me if the BBC did get it wrong; the website seems to have lost its way. I found no mention of the death of David Shepherd.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 ... (It wouldn’t surprise me if the BBC did get it wrong; the website seems to have lost its way. I found no mention of the death of David Shepherd.) It's on iPlayer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 I don't know size wise how accurate the Hattons mock ups are but this might help visualise some of the differences in frame lengths and tank height on different models. Hattons-AB-MockUps16'Katieto14'705Sm.gif P Breathe in... breathe out... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Breathe in... breathe out... That was my first thought after I ran the finished Gif. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 NCB West Ayrshire Area 0-4-0ST No.10 (Andrew Barclay 2244 of 1947) in action in 1974. https://www.railscot.co.uk/img/60/886/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respite Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Well I must admit I have been proved wrong on the selection of liveries for the Barclay. I was surprised at the choice of Katie as the loco only wore this livery whilst sat on a plinth at a garden centre. It is really an ex ICI Huddersfield loco although it did work at the infant KWVR in its blue industrial livery http://picssr.com/photos/railwaydave/interesting/page34?nsid=22633970@N08 Clearly the attractiveness of the livery is selling more models than authenticity. The liveries chosen seem to be all 'as preserved' rather than 1960s industrial liveries. Some proper NCB liveried wooden wagons and 16 ton minerals would be nice to go with the Barclays and the Hornby Pecketts. The ones in the video are exclusive to Manvers Coking Plant. Following on the heels of the Hornby Peckett a Barclay loco would have been my choice, well done Hattons for some quick work. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted September 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) I think it might be because it's a more generic livery so doesn't tie it to a particular location as much Edited September 26, 2017 by Corbs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I think it might be because it's a more generic livery for so doesn't tie it to a particular location as much Makes me wonder if a plain black or maroon (or add colour of personal preference) with just the pinstriping, or a loco supplied with separate nameplates not attached or printed may have been top of the pops pre order charts? P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Makes me wonder if a plain black or maroon (or add colour of personal preference) with just the pinstriping, or a loco supplied with separate nameplates not attached or printed may have been top of the pops pre order charts? P Certainly I have pre-ordered 'WTT' on basis that I like the colour and the lettering can be removed. It is my intention to buy nameplates for it.Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesparkdave Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Maybe a bit cheeky but perhaps a big Barclay 0-6-0 along the lines of Dalmellington Iron Company Number 17 next? Maybe a bit cheeky but perhaps a big Barclay 0-6-0 along the lines of Dalmellington Iron Company Number 17 next? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Level Kits Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Maybe a bit cheeky but perhaps a big Barclay 0-6-0 along the lines of Dalmellington Iron Company Number 17 next? Maybe a bit cheeky but perhaps a big Barclay 0-6-0 along the lines of Dalmellington Iron Company Number 17 next? Don't want to thread-crash, so here's a link... http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/85210-high-level-kits/page-13&do=findComment&comment=2865959 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted September 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2017 Maybe a bit cheeky but perhaps a big Barclay 0-6-0 along the lines of Dalmellington Iron Company Number 17 next? Maybe a bit cheeky but perhaps a big Barclay 0-6-0 along the lines of Dalmellington Iron Company Number 17 next? Nice idea. Thanks for the info on the difference between the 14" and 16" types. I'm definitely going for a cute little 14" one, then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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