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Trip to England: Summary with pictures (Day 12: Wales - Hay on Wye to Caernarfon/Snowdonia)


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Mmm... Spent many an hour in Abbey Road’s bar. I used to live (for a short time) in one of EMI’s apartments next door. The bar also did great breakfasts....

 

Last time I went to Abbey Road’s website they had a live webcam of the crossing. No one gets the real photos perspective - the photographer was up a ten foot stepladder in the middle of the road. Taken very early in the morning.

 

Best, Pete.

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I must say that your choice of eaterie in Oxford WOULD at one time have been mine, as the King's Arms was a favourite pub of mine for years.  However, the meal that you got does appear to be quite odd. 

 

I look forward to getting the next few days once you're able. and have bookmarked the page.

 

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Stewart

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Obviously you now understand previous advice, that you should NEVER travel any distance in UK without rainwear, regardless of the time of year...

 

This didn't come up in the general discussion, but if you see a sign advertising PUKKA PIES, walk straight past and go somewhere else.

 

Oxford and Cambridge Universities (note, these are the governing bodies, anyone wearing a sweatshirt so marked is a tourist!) are both immensely wealthy.

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I must say that your choice of eaterie in Oxford WOULD at one time have been mine, as the King's Arms was a favourite pub of mine for years.  However, the meal that you got does appear to be quite odd. 

 

I look forward to getting the next few days once you're able. and have bookmarked the page.

 

Regards

Stewart

 

Quite common down here for pies to be served like that Stewart although I do know one place where you get slices out of a large pie (but you also have to watch the play etc in order to get it ;) )  Apart from the chips - possibly a personal choice - the rest again looks fairly typical although what appears to be cabbage looks a bit over-cooked and soggy.   But the pie crust really does look top notch.

 

 

Back in the days when I spent time in Oxford pubs (usually the Turl Tavern) I think the most that you could get in the way of a 'meal' would be a packet of crisps.

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Oxford and Cambridge Universities (note, these are the governing bodies, anyone wearing a sweatshirt so marked is a tourist!) are both immensely wealthy.

 

The wealth doesn't belong to the Universities, but to *some* of the colleges (not my alma mater, unfortunately). Both St John's are fabulously rich; it used to be said that you could travel from one to the other entirely on their land.

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The wealth doesn't belong to the Universities, but to *some* of the colleges (not my alma mater, unfortunately). Both St John's are fabulously rich; it used to be said that you could travel from one to the other entirely on their land.

One of the huge container terminals at Felixstowe is name after the Cambridge college that owned the site- Trinity.

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Comedy mime show at the Garrick?

 

Would that be Tapeface? if so I do want to see that as it looks brilliant

Yes it was TapeFace. It was brilliant. Well worth the price. Be warned that you might be chosen to be on stage. Edited by OnTheBranchline
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You both seem to have had a good time.

 

Concerning Churchill, famed overseas war correspondent, years as both First Lord of the Admiralty and Chancellor of the Exchequer, makes a pretty rare combination and would be a 'complete career' portfolio for anyone; and that's without his extensive later literary output being taken into consideration. If only we had someone now with as much talent as he seemingly possessed in one little finger...

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Concerning Churchill,  with as much talent as he seemingly possessed in one little finger...

Got to say that he was a great war leader, but having tried his writing, and having seen a lot of his paintings, I feel that his political achevements probably outweighed his artistic efforts.

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Got to say that he was a great war leader, but having tried his writing, and having seen a lot of his paintings, I feel that his political achevements probably outweighed his artistic efforts.

Churchill's published writings fall into two categories - journalism in a now-obsolete style, and written history based upon his first-hand experience. I wouldn't say he was a particularly entertaining author, but he knew a great deal about subjects very few people knew about.

 

However - more pictures, please!

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Obviously you now understand previous advice, that you should NEVER travel any distance in UK without rainwear, regardless of the time of year...

 

This didn't come up in the general discussion, but if you see a sign advertising PUKKA PIES, walk straight past and go somewhere else.

 

Oxford and Cambridge Universities (note, these are the governing bodies, anyone wearing a sweatshirt so marked is a tourist!) are both immensely wealthy.

You mean a 13 year old Asian school kid with an Oxford University sweater isn't an actual student of Oxford? :O ;) Edited by OnTheBranchline
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Travel around the Cambridge area and you will see that many of the farms have college crests on the nameboards - these are the landowners..

Not wholly surprising given that when the monasteries were disestablished in Tudor times a lot of the church's wealth ended up in educational establishments (e.g. The number of King Henry Viii, QE or King Edward Vi schools). In any event, many of the older colleges were founded when monks were sent to Oxbridge for education.

 

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You mean a 13 year old Asian school kid with an Oxford University sweater isn't an actual student of Oxford? :O ;)

There is no telling what his object of study might be, on that evidence, but the chance of him being a student at any specific college in Oxford, probably isn't high, I agree...

 

Quick! More pictures!

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Day 5:

 

Day 5 would start with us Tubing to Euston station and taking the train to Watford then taking a shuttle bus to Harry Potter Studios. The future SWIMBO is a Potterhead (I can appreciate it for the artistry, modelling, and trains of course). We spent just over 3 hours at Harry Potter Studios. It's almost a Disney-esque production with how slick everything is inside. Visiting the studios makes you really appreciate the artistry and imagination that creative people have. The only thing that was really important to be was to get a picture with the Hall that thinks it's a Castle (in my head, the Castle was blocked from running on the Hogwarts line due to weight restrictions but the railway did not want to disappoint Dumbledore with a 'Hall' (so a discreet name change was to occur) :P . Dumbledore, not a true railwayman, probably didn't notice that it wasn't a Castle to begin with!). I mean, didn't the GWR switch loco names around when the royal family was involved? (4082/7013 for sure).

 

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After Harry Potter Studios, we made our way back to London via Euston/Midland and Tubed it to Waterloo station. From Waterloo station, we took the train to Fareham station where distant relatives of mine live (we would stay with them for two nights). We took a drive to see the new aircraft carrier USS George Bush which had just turned up in Portsmouth. We were also driven around the Gosport/Portsmouth area which seemed nice and quiet. They also introduced us to a show called "Long Lost Families" and a show about real estate property flipping. We learned that my distant relatives (in their mid 70s) were still young at heart, staying up until 1am and pounding nightcaps. I did not know that a starting volume for whiskey on the rocks was 100ml, but needless to say, I wasn't going anywhere after that.

 

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Day 6:

 

We went to see the Victory which was a must for me. When you walked abroad, you could feel the history oozing from the wood. The Victory was also a good reminder of how short they were in the 1800s due to the nutrition in the food that they ate at the time. I'm about 6 foot tall and I think I hit my head more than I would like to admit on the ceiling beams. The audio tours gave a great storyline of Admiral Nelson and the battle of Trafalgar (I knew already but it's still good to listen to). We stayed on the Victory for about 1.5 hours (it's still well worth the 18 quid). We felt like we needed more time in the Portsmouth Dockyard (we didn't have time for the Mary Rose or the Warrior but we will return to Portsmouth again in the future). After HMS Victory, we, distant relatives and us, walked around Gunwharf Quays which had soldiers with machine guns walking around inside the shopping centre. Such is the age we live in.

 

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Day 7:

 

We took the train from Fareham to Salisbury and got on a bus tour to Stonehenge. Now, the first thing is that Stonehenge turned out to be the coldest/windiest/rainiest day that we had on our trip. I could not but think back to that scene in the Beatles movie Help! where the 4 Beatles are freezing their butts off on Salisbury Plain during one of their song numbers. But I think that the weather added to it, to experience it like it was back in earlier times (rather than a polished museum piece). The second thing is that I'm shocked on how far the A303 is to Stonehenge, I would have thought that they would have made the A303 farther away. Yes, Stonehenge might be a bit overrated and definitely a tourist trap (the worst tourist trap gift-shop of them all for the gift-shops we visited in the UK) but it's one of those things everyone should do once.

 

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After Stonehenge, we hung out in Salisbury for a bit and visited the Cathedral. It's a beautiful Cathedral and worth a visit (even just for an hour). Lovely for pictures. Salisbury is also a pleasant town to walk around in.

 

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One thing about Salisbury Cathedral is that it has the best copy of the Magna Carta (but not the most original, those two are in the British Library). Now, the Magna Carta is one of the most important documents in the history of the world. Now look at the below sign.

 

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Spot what's wrong with this? :jester:

 

After Salisbury, we caught the train to Bath and checked into our AirBnB. We were lucky that our AirBnB was on the hilly part of Bath :good: (it was southeast of Bath Spa station). 

 

Day 8:

 

Day 8 would be a whole day in Bath. Bath is divine. It's our favourite English city. The buildings are beautiful, the crowds are (slightly) less than London and the history is great. We took a free walking tour (thank you City of Bath) which took 2 hours, where we got to learn about the Roman Baths, mustaches made from mouses, lead poisoning, Jane Austen, Beau Nash, Royal Crescent, Sally Lunn, etc. After the walking tour, we went to Sally Lunn's which had a bit of a wait to get into (the place was full of foreign school students again with their phone cameras). The buns were good (I had one with bacon and onion on it, and she had a chocolate hazelnut I think? Don't quote it on it). After Sally Lunn's, we walked to the Royal Crescent/Circus. We also did the Fashion Museum, which is worth an hour of your time just to see how clothing progressed through history. We waited until about 6pm to do the Roman Baths as they had just started the "see the Roman Baths by night and fire" advertising where they lit the torches around the Baths (it was still pretty bright outside but the flames had a neat effect). The Roman Baths were excellent with its presentation of the Roman artifacts and how the healing power of Baths were used by people suffering from lead poisoning. The one really interesting about the Baths is that people would scribble a curse that that would want the Gods to put on people (for stolen property and such), or if they didn't know who did it, they just wrote down a list of names (thankfully, the justice system has moved forward since that time). Note: We did not have time for Bath Abbey but it's lovely from the outside.

 

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Well, at least I have still seen more of Portsmouth than you have (my father was born there and my paternal grandparents lived there, so I have had a bit more of an oportunity)! When you have a chance you should certainly go back and visit HMS Warrior.

Unfortunately, when the proto A303 was laid out, back in the dark ages, nobody bothered about what visitors to Stonehenge might think in 2017.  There has been a long campaign to move the A303 or bury it, but there are strong archaeological objections, due to the consequences of disturbing the very important remains round about and the cost of tunneling is astronomic.  Must say, though that one advantage of being over 60 is that I was able in my youth to visit the stones close up.  They are much more impressive when you can stand alongside them (especially if you are quite small at the time).  In this case, distance does not add enchantment to the view.  Try a trip to Avebury, where you can still stand alongside the stones.

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