Classsix T Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Thinking of you monkeys, Doug, Kev et al. Remind us, the fires are there, the decision makers dictate policy where? As an "asoid" I happily revisited 'Kath and Kim' as one of Aus' best comedy exports on Netflix... not a great comfort to those of you under current threat, but affirming in the fact we share...something? C6T. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysarefun Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Classsix T said: Thinking of you monkeys, Doug, Kev et al. Remind us, the fires are there, the decision makers dictate policy where? As an "asoid" I happily revisited 'Kath and Kim' as one of Aus' best comedy exports on Netflix... not a great comfort to those of you under current threat, but affirming in the fact we share...something? C6T. No matter what party, policy is worked out depending where the politician is standing at the time - eg Labor campaigning in inner city Melbourne "We will phase out coal mines!" Labor campaigning in Far North Queensland "We fully support mining jobs!" Kath and Kim has an earlier non-fiction version called Sylvania Waters which was must-see viewing here in 1992 - not sure how it went down in the UK (was made by a UK production team..) For a right off-the-scale look at Australian culture, theres always "Housos!" 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Feel free to correct me cobbers, but it seems Aussies, Kiwis etc have quite rightly been determined to break the shackles of class that England still burdens itself with. What amuses me most about Kath and Kim is their satire of pretending to be "Australians with culture" which isn't far off the nouveau riche of English home counties knobheads in the 80s. It continues today with various awful reality shows that prove personal wealth does not transpire into taste. C6T. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysarefun Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Kim: I want to be effluent, mum, effluent! Kath: You are effluent, Kim! 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, monkeysarefun said: Byron Bay, which is currently being torn apart by fires, was also promised $5.85 million for a new fire station in Kingscliff. The funding has yet to arrive. And that would be needed just for the growth in suburban housing in the area, not necessarily fighting bushfires which requires a different set of skills and equipment. The recent California wildfires stretched crews to the limits. To help out CalFire in California, fire fighting crews were sent from Oregon, Washington, Idaho and Nevada. Even though distances are comparable, this sort of flexibility is difficult in Australia and with fires in both QLD and NSW the crews on scene would be really stretched. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 "Kimmoi, Kim, look at moy, look at moy Kimmoi." Superb. C6T. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysarefun Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ozexpatriate said: And that would be needed just for the growth in suburban housing in the area, not necessarily fighting bushfires which requires a different set of skills and equipment. The recent California wildfires stretched crews to the limits. To help out CalFire in California, fire fighting crews were sent from Oregon, Washington, Idaho and Nevada. Even though distances are comparable, this sort of flexibility is difficult in Australia and with fires in both QLD and NSW the crews on scene would be really stretched. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-06/former-fire-chief-worried-about-firefighting-resources/11677760 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysarefun Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 How the Rural Fire Service are seeing the current situation around here: How the Daily Mail Australia are seeing the current situation around here... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7672789/Sydney-residents-told-prepared-evacuate-authorities-say-save-everyone.html 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Australia even sent firefighters to California last time they burnt & it is a regular happening in Oz, that firefighters from all over Oz to help out in other States. https://www.cfs.sa.gov.au/site/home/criimson/sa_to_send_more_help_to_nsw_issued_08_nov_17210003130.jsp 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Sol said: Australia even sent firefighters to California last time they burnt ... I remember that last year. With the now overlapping fire seasons, I'm not sure they could do that this time. The most recent California fires were only controlled a week ago. 1 hour ago, Sol said: ... it is a regular happening in Oz, that firefighters from all over Oz to help out in other States. I'm sure that's true. The difference with California is that Australia runs out of states pretty quickly. California also uses inmates from State correctional facilities for additional manpower. There's no question that wildfires/bushfires in both the western US and in Australia have reached a crisis the like of which we have never seen before. It's not just development encroaching into forest land either. Towns that have been there for a century are burning. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Even firefighters flying in from New Zealand to help out in Queensland . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 This shows how far the smoke plumes have travelled. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Meanwhile in north Queensland: Fisherman narrowly escapes crocodile attack by poking it in the eye https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/11/australia/australia-crocodile-attack-intl-hnk-scli/index.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 8 hours ago, Ozexpatriate said: There's no question that wildfires/bushfires in both the western US and in Australia have reached a crisis the like of which we have never seen before. It's not just development encroaching into forest land either. Towns that have been there for a century are burning. Really? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 ....and for an explaination Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Bill, it's interesting data. I am a bit concerned about "acres of forest burned" versus "acres burned". Many of the recent wildfires in California is not really forest but grassland and scrubland. The Camp fire was certainly forest. Leaving that aside the most significant factor is the level of active forest fire management since the 1940s. A visible measure of the governmental focus in forest fire prevention is Smokey Bear who was created in 1944. There is no question that forest fires in the first half of the 20th century were devastating. There was a lot more forest to burn and far fewer and less effective resources to fight them. Examples include the great fire of 1910 that burned 3,000,000 acres. The list here is broadly consistent with the data you present. (It does not include any of the Oregon fires in 2017 which was a very bad year for us.) The fire prevention programme was effective leading to the decline in wildfire devastation through the 1980s as demonstrated in the data you present. What has happened in the last 20 years is that despite the ongoing fire prevention efforts the frequency and severity of wildfires is increasing dramatically. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I'd have rather more truck with the authors of the pieces in bill's links if they concentrated their undoubtedly valid perspectives on purely the facts of the matter rather than the continuing blatant character assassination (Saint Greta, really?) of a young woman and underlying trope of alledging climate change concern is some attempt at a Socialist world take over. Surely, politics should be discarded when it comes to evidential facts? Alledging your "opponent" has a political agenda does little but prove you share that in common. Rather telling also that the authors also decry the MSM (main-stream media) for not picking up on their myth busting acumen. Exactly what the left leaning frothers spout with equal regularity. What neither side seem to be able to comprehend is lazy journalism dictates content, not impartial research and fact finding. C6T. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted November 13, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2019 Here is the latest projected rainfall map for Australia. There is NONE expected in the fire zones for the next few days. http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/rain/index.jsp 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 More on the smoke plumes. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted November 13, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2019 There is a report of a tree that caught fire in Sydney's CBD. The crew that put it out was from Melbourne (800 km away)! There is a local member on each Melbourne on loan truck, to ensure they don't get lost on the way. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 There are firies from Tasmania and New Zealand in Queensland at the moment. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Don't let your dogs chase kangaroos. From Victoria: A woman walking her dog in Australia was mauled by a large kangaroo 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 G'Day Folks Not a 100% this will come out, but it list all the droughts and rainfall, since 1900. You may have to download it and enlarge it to really see the information. manna 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 On 19/11/2019 at 17:57, Ozexpatriate said: Don't let your dogs chase kangaroos. From Victoria: A woman walking her dog in Australia was mauled by a large kangaroo OK, who picked on skippy the skin head kangaroo! (with apologies to the Doug Anthony All Stars) 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 21, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, DougN said: (with apologies to the Doug Anthony All Stars) Showing your age... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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