RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted April 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 27, 2021 I never experienced a runaway like that, but a pal did on one of the bulkers, it was a Doxford (everyone shudders collectively) 8J76 IIRC, the Cambridgeshire, a Panamax vessel. They had an exhaust boiler fire and the draught pulling through over-revved the blowers to the point one exploded, bits all over the engineroom. Eeuww. I do recall running up the exhaust trunking in a crouch, of an RND90 not too long after stopping, picking bits of piston ring out of the catchers, when it was FAR too hot to really be in there. The Second seeing what I was made of, I think. I think we burned something like 120 tons of heavy oil a day on the biggest ship I sailed on, the Derbyshire (yes....) which had a B&W 8K98FF at about 30k bhp. Horrid thing. Its fair to say I was a Sulzer fanboy despite the scavenges! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 44 minutes ago, New Haven Neil said: I never experienced a runaway like that, but a pal did on one of the bulkers, it was a Doxford (everyone shudders collectively) 8J76 IIRC, the Cambridgeshire, a Panamax vessel. They had an exhaust boiler fire and the draught pulling through over-revved the blowers to the point one exploded, bits all over the engineroom. Eeuww. I do recall running up the exhaust trunking in a crouch, of an RND90 not too long after stopping, picking bits of piston ring out of the catchers, when it was FAR too hot to really be in there. The Second seeing what I was made of, I think. I think we burned something like 120 tons of heavy oil a day on the biggest ship I sailed on, the Derbyshire (yes....) which had a B&W 8K98FF at about 30k bhp. Horrid thing. Its fair to say I was a Sulzer fanboy despite the scavenges! Nice... ISTR seeing the Cambridgeshire in drydock at Cape Town, back in 1981; she was there for a long time. The story was that she had to have a lot of steelwork replaced in the holds, mainly the tank tops, after carrying a dodgy cargo. Sulphur? Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted April 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 27, 2021 25 minutes ago, MarkC said: Nice... ISTR seeing the Cambridgeshire in drydock at Cape Town, back in 1981; she was there for a long time. The story was that she had to have a lot of steelwork replaced in the holds, mainly the tank tops, after carrying a dodgy cargo. Sulphur? Mark Yes, that's correct Mark, sulphur, washed with seawater...oh! Frame knees/brackets rotted away, she was in a state by all accounts. I also think the turbo incident was around that time, it possible that was being repaired at the same time. I haven't seen my pal who was there for a long time - he was my best man! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, New Haven Neil said: Yes, that's correct Mark, sulphur, washed with seawater...oh! Frame knees/brackets rotted away, she was in a state by all accounts. I also think the turbo incident was around that time, it possible that was being repaired at the same time. I haven't seen my pal who was there for a long time - he was my best man! Was the seawater due to leaks, or when washing out the holds after discharge? Either way - oops! Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, steve W said: That's a great one, we could probably have a whole thread devoted to that canal! Here's another one then. Same ship, a couple of years later. Southbound, just clearing Suez, & dropping off the "Extra" boatmen (the unauthorised ones - try to stop them coming on board to sell their tat fabulous Egyptian souvenirs tat & all h*ll breaks loose) into a launch. 4 of them left on board, all gathered round the accommodation ladder. The Mate tells them - "only 2 on the ladder at a time, and don't all stand on the platform at the bottom". So, their launch is approaching. What do they do? Yes, all pile down to the bottom & squeeze onto the platform, which promptly collapses like the trap on a gallows... The Old Man is watching from the bridge wing, so puts the helm over to swing the stern (and the slice & dice machine aka the propeller) away from these idiots, then rings for full sea speed & we head down the Gulf of Suez, ignoring the howls of protest & demands for us to stop that are coming out of the VHF Edited April 28, 2021 by MarkC To add something 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 9 hours ago, MarkC said: Here's another one then. Same ship, a couple of years later. Southbound, just clearing Suez, & dropping off the "Extra" boatmen (the unauthorised ones - try to stop them coming on board to sell their tat fabulous Egyptian souvenirs tat & all h*ll breaks loose) into a launch. 4 of them left on board, all gathered round the accommodation ladder. The Mate tells them - "only 2 on the ladder at a time, and don't all stand on the platform at the bottom". So, their launch is approaching. What do they do? Yes, all pile down to the bottom & squeeze onto the platform, which promptly collapses like the trap on a gallows... The Old Man is watching from the bridge wing, so puts the helm over to swing the stern (and the slice & dice machine aka the propeller) away from these idiots, then rings for full sea speed & we head down the Gulf of Suez, ignoring the howls of protest & demands for us to stop that are coming out of the VHF I take it you didn't go back that way for a while! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted April 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 28, 2021 On 27/04/2021 at 17:36, MarkC said: Was the seawater due to leaks, or when washing out the holds after discharge? Either way - oops! Mark Washing out as I understand it, Mark. There was some mention in the house magazine about the causes, but I don't have that copy. I'll ask on the Bibby's forum. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted April 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 28, 2021 On 26/04/2021 at 21:51, steve W said: It's been niggling me. The one I saw wasn't a Flettner, but had more of an aerofoil curved sail. A quick look on Youtube found this one which best matches my recollection. Steve W That may well have been it, and a flawed memory! It was a while ago..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 9 hours ago, 62613 said: I take it you didn't go back that way for a while! Nah - it wasn't 'official' visitors, so the authorities didn't care. In fact, an incident from the 1980s also now rings a bell. I was 3/E on a Saudi flag reefer ship which was regularly transiting the canal. (From memory we were carrying citrus fruit from Morocco to Jeddah). Anyway, we were anchored in Suez Bay awaiting our convoy, and were surrounded by the usual bumboats, whose occupants were trying to get on board to steal what they could to flog their "goods". The Old Man was a great believer in keeping them off the ship, and gave strict instructions to the deck Serang to "do what he could to keep them off". Well, one boat in particular was very insistent, to the extent that they were throwing grappling hooks & lines up, with a view to climbing on board. The Serang warned them off, twice. The third time, he dropped a large piece of scrap (an old steel 6" valve) into the boat. Said valve went straight through the bottom, which promptly sank the boat! Nothing was said by the authorities, & we were left well alone after that. Obviously the 'good news' was passed around 6 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 On 25/04/2021 at 18:31, burgundy said: From memory (which is always fallible), the West London line opened in the mid 1860s, resulting in a very significant expansion of goods traffic on the Brighton. The last ship to land coal on Hastings beach (not an especially pleasant place to beach a ship of any size) was 1871(?) Best wishes Eric Coal was also landed on the beach at Bognor, at least until 1893, or possibly 1904 when the new gasworks, outside the town, was opened. Courtesy of Sussex Industrial Archaeology Society 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted April 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 29, 2021 Big Charlie is scheduled to leave Portsmouth tomorrow at 14:50 https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/qhm/portsmouth/shipping-movements/daily-movements?date=30/04/2021 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 The Spanish have a very gentrle and respectable method of launching their subs, no splashing, no will it won't it tip over. Like a new baby being put into a bath for the first time 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted May 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 9, 2021 That's not a Naval sub, it's a post Brexit Spanish fishing vessel..... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted May 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 9, 2021 Shouldn’t they have take. The poly bag off the propellor unit first? Or maybe that’s the muffler 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 On 29/04/2021 at 16:41, Stubby47 said: Big Charlie is scheduled to leave Portsmouth tomorrow at 14:50 https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/qhm/portsmouth/shipping-movements/daily-movements?date=30/04/2021 Along with Tempest, Bountiful, Independent, Indulgent, Christina, Suzanne, and Mr T Bannister. Some say the first four are personal attributes of Charlie, the ladies are Personal Assistants, and the last one is his Private Valet. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexEclectic Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 For your consideration... Sinews of War and Trade: Shipping and Capitalism in the Arabian Peninsula by Laleh Khalili. (London Review of Books) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmditch Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 13 hours ago, WessexEclectic said: For your consideration... Sinews of War and Trade: Shipping and Capitalism in the Arabian Peninsula by Laleh Khalili. (London Review of Books) Good link. Thank you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MPR Posted May 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2021 On 29/04/2021 at 16:41, Stubby47 said: Big Charlie is scheduled to leave Portsmouth tomorrow at 14:50 https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/qhm/portsmouth/shipping-movements/daily-movements?date=30/04/2021 HMS Prince of Wales anchored off Torbay. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Ouch...! https://www.foxla.com/news/historic-queen-mary-in-danger-of-capsizing-new-report-reveals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium Kris Posted May 20, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 20, 2021 Apparently it was a little bouncy going across to the Sillies this morning. Apologies for the stupid ad filled site in the link. https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/gallery/uncomfortable-isles-scilly-ferry-trip-5437463?fbclid=IwAR1hExtE8RDbGqK72l5QTTzvbur8srhyXhqUf8kylzdKDYZKkcED65o4FtY 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cuttle Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 30 minutes ago, Johann Marsbar said: Ouch...! https://www.foxla.com/news/historic-queen-mary-in-danger-of-capsizing-new-report-reveals This has been going on for years, under investment, botched repairs, nobody has ever made a profit. The Queen Mary Village is derelict also i believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 18 hours ago, Johann Marsbar said: Ouch...! https://www.foxla.com/news/historic-queen-mary-in-danger-of-capsizing-new-report-reveals Ah, the joys of an ignorant media using big words they don't understand... There's not a lot of water under her keel. She's quite possibly at risk of partially sinking at her moorings - the hull hasn't been touched below the waterline for over 50 years, iirc, & frankly I suspect that if someone were to try towing her to a drydock then she might well suffer structural failure. Her hull must be rotten in places. The hull of the late, lamented Manxman was well perforated, which is why she was broken up in the shed at Sunderland. It was just too costly to replate her, which is what was required. As one chap I knew who saw her before the gas axe teams rocked up put it - "I've seen fewer holes in a pair of lace knickers...". from memory, Turbinia's hull is quite well holed too - not that anyone is planning on putting her back in the water. Our own HMS Belfast had a trip to the graving dock at Tilbury a few years ago for repairs & repainting - had it not been done then she might well be in danger too. I know that the USS Texas is pretty much beyond salvation too - I believe that the only way to save her will be to fill the basin she sits in with concrete before she sinks. Ships cost money - lots of it - to preserve. Mark 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cuttle Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, MarkC said: Ah, the joys of an ignorant media using big words they don't understand... There's not a lot of water under her keel. She's quite possibly at risk of partially sinking at her moorings - the hull hasn't been touched below the waterline for over 50 years, iirc, & frankly I suspect that if someone were to try towing her to a drydock then she might well suffer structural failure. Her hull must be rotten in places. The hull of the late, lamented Manxman was well perforated, which is why she was broken up in the shed at Sunderland. It was just too costly to replate her, which is what was required. As one chap I knew who saw her before the gas axe teams rocked up put it - "I've seen fewer holes in a pair of lace knickers...". from memory, Turbinia's hull is quite well holed too - not that anyone is planning on putting her back in the water. Our own HMS Belfast had a trip to the graving dock at Tilbury a few years ago for repairs & repainting - had it not been done then she might well be in danger too. I know that the USS Texas is pretty much beyond salvation too - I believe that the only way to save her will be to fill the basin she sits in with concrete before she sinks. Ships cost money - lots of it - to preserve. Mark The Texas was going into dry dock but covid delayed that. Work is continuing to stabilise the ship and volunteers are working on all sorts of projects on the ship. The blisters were foam filled late last year. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cuttle Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Captain Cuttle said: The Texas was going into dry dock but covid delayed that. Work is continuing to stabilise the ship and volunteers are working on all sorts of projects on the ship. The blisters were foam filled late last year. this is a good site for all the progress on the ship. https://battleshiptexas.org/battleship-updates/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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