Anyone Interested in Ships

[The Stationmaster]

29 minutes ago, Bon Accord said:

I suspect they're going to sea every so often for a day or two so as to make fresh water and pump over bilges/treated black water etc as well as giving everything a good run.

Before the advent of onboard internet/TV, there was a favoured anchorage for RFAs and their like not far from Portland/Weymouth which was good holding ground, sheltered and was just outside the 12 mile limit. We always knew it at as the "Triple T" anchorage: Telephone/TV/Tax as you could received the first two from shore based masts and being just outside the 12 mile limit it counted as a tax day!

I haven't checked for a while but it is not unusual to see from AIS information a couple of the large cruise vessels doing a trip down Channel and back, and occasionally much further.  And I've noted that a number have moved between south coast anchorages, such as the three now in Torbay.  Interestingly some of the other cruise vessels elsewhere on the British coast have not moved for quite a while - several at Rosyth haven't shifted since May and a couple (which were at one stage detained) at Tilbury haven't moved since March but they all alongside or moored immediately next to vessels which are alongsode. 

[Bon Accord]

3 hours ago, The Stationmaster said:

I haven't checked for a while but it is not unusual to see from AIS information a couple of the large cruise vessels doing a trip down Channel and back, and occasionally much further.  And I've noted that a number have moved between south coast anchorages, such as the three now in Torbay.  Interestingly some of the other cruise vessels elsewhere on the British coast have not moved for quite a while - several at Rosyth haven't shifted since May and a couple (which were at one stage detained) at Tilbury haven't moved since March but they all alongside or moored immediately next to vessels which are alongsode. 

 

Those alongside will have been down manned to the extent that they won't have enough men to go to sea or to anchor.

The cruise ship companies rarely employ salaried staff in the traditional sense, effectively they're all agency/contract staff employed by a PO Box in Bermuda or Malta etc so they can be dispensed with quickly and usually without any redundancy terms, that includes most of the officers as well as all the ratings.

The four in Rosyth are about to be joined by two ex Carnival vessels that Fred Olsens have purchased, accordingly the two ex Royal Viking ships there are for sale, most likely for scrap.

[Tankerman]

3 hours ago, Bon Accord said:

 

Those alongside will have been down manned to the extent that they won't have enough men to go to sea or to anchor.

The cruise ship companies rarely employ salaried staff in the traditional sense, effectively they're all agency/contract staff employed by a PO Box in Bermuda or Malta etc so they can be dispensed with quickly and usually without any redundancy terms, that includes most of the officers as well as all the ratings.

The four in Rosyth are about to be joined by two ex Carnival vessels that Fred Olsens have purchased, accordingly the two ex Royal Viking ships there are for sale, most likely for scrap.

Most of the ones in Tilbury were part of the CMV, which has gone into liquidation, fleet.

[Bon Accord]

Today marks 40 years since the loss of DERBYSHIRE in Typhoon Orchid. 

Whilst there have been a number of improvements in ship design and regulation in the intervening period, we still haven't fully learnt the lessons of that loss and many others.

[Clagsniffer]

Got a couple of nice shots from the Tyne in the sun yesterday.

 

 

And one from Monday

 

[St Enodoc]

2 hours ago, Bon Accord said:

Today marks 40 years since the loss of DERBYSHIRE in Typhoon Orchid. 

Whilst there have been a number of improvements in ship design and regulation in the intervening period, we still haven't fully learnt the lessons of that loss and many others.

MV Gulf Livestock 1 was lost in Typhoon Maysak off Japan last week. Of the 43 souls on board only two are known to have survived.

[Tankerman]

13 hours ago, Bon Accord said:

Today marks 40 years since the loss of DERBYSHIRE in Typhoon Orchid. 

Whilst there have been a number of improvements in ship design and regulation in the intervening period, we still haven't fully learnt the lessons of that loss and many others.

 

Last month I went back home to Cornwall with my partner who hadn't been there before. I took her to see St Just in Roseland Church and while there I saw the memorial stone erected in memory of one of the crew of the Derbyshire. My memory isn't what it was and I can't remember his name.

[Phil Traxson]

14 hours ago, Clagsniffer said:

Got a couple of nice shots from the Tyne in the sun yesterday.

 

 

And one from Monday

 

Purely out of curiosity, whereabouts on the Tyne where you when you took these photos, is that part of a derelict shipyard in the foreground?  

[62613]

14 minutes ago, Phil Traxson said:

Purely out of curiosity, whereabouts on the Tyne where you when you took these photos, is that part of a derelict shipyard in the foreground?  

Is it Break 'em and Cowans?

 

[chris p bacon]

I think it might be here. (not that I know the area well)

 

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.9926515,-1.4433907,688m/data=!3m1!1e3

[Clagsniffer]

Pretty much as per @chris p bacon has in his link above.

[eastwestdivide]

A couple of Lady Ariane creeping up the Medway towards Rochester with a load of timber for Scotline earlier this year.

Passing St Mary's Island and the covered slips at Chatham Dockyard:

 

[chris p bacon]

1 hour ago, Clagsniffer said:

Pretty much as per @chris p bacon has in his link above.

 

Any idea who or what the yard used to be ?

 

 

[Bon Accord]

13 minutes ago, chris p bacon said:

 

Any idea who or what the yard used to be ?

 

 

 

That's the old Readheads.

[The Stationmaster]

8 minutes ago, Bon Accord said:

 

That's the old Readheads.

Here you go gents

 

http://www.tynebuiltships.co.uk/Readhead-History.html

[Phil Traxson]

Didn't realise that the old dry docks had not been filled in. My interest was brought about by the fact that I did some months in 1966 in Smiths Dock on the opposite side of the river and thought that it may have been there. I've only once been back  and then only passing through about 20 years ago, I was off route in a works vehicle (deliberately, for nostalgia's sake) so the visit was neccessarily very brief. On this visit I used and was unimpressed with the Tyne Tunnel, which was about to be built/opened just after my time up there, the only thing in its favour seemed to be that it was more reliable than the Jarrow ferry!  

Edited September 10, 2020 by Phil Traxson

[62613]

15 hours ago, Bon Accord said:

 

That's the old Readheads.

Beat me to it!

 

[Erichill16]

17 hours ago, Clagsniffer said:

Pretty much as per @chris p bacon has in his link above.

It’s like a fossilized footprint of a long extinct creature.
 

[The Stationmaster]

2 hours ago, Erichill16 said:

It’s like a fossilized footprint of a long extinct creature.
 

Alas in some respects that is very much what it is - the footprint of a near vanished industry which was once a major employer in various parts of Britain but nowadays seems to be only good for dereliction, and donating sites for overpriced housing or the occasional themepark.

[Erichill16]

32 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said:

Alas in some respects that is very much what it is - the footprint of a near vanished industry which was once a major employer in various parts of Britain but nowadays seems to be only good for dereliction, and donating sites for overpriced housing or the occasional themepark.

That was my point really. Perhaps I was a little too subtle!
 

[steve W]

A couple of holiday snaps from Falmouth yesterday.

The Opaline RoRo (Cobelfret) in the Queen Elizabeth dry dock displaying her stern. Detached rudder in the dock on the port side.  Next to the workshops on the left is one of the few remmnants of the internal railway system, most of it has now disappeared.

The Eastern side of the yard has changed significantly with the covering in of the adjacent dry dock and the huge construction halls of Pendennis super yachts for the super rich.

 

 

The patrol vessel 'Tamar' being fussed over by a couple of tugs on the way into Falmouth, passing St Mawes Castle with

the town in the background

 

[luckymucklebackit]

The Container Ship Adilia1 makes its way past Arran on its way from Greenock to Liverpool this evening

 

Jim

[The Johnster]

My sister lived in Largs for a couple of years, 63-5; what a spectacular spot for ship watching and there were still BR 4MT tanks and LMS suburbans as well.  I remember two big Cunarders, Sylvania, and the green goddess, Caronia, and the Clyde stardards at the pier; Waverley, Talisman, Jeannie Deans, and the Hornby Dublo Duchesses, Hamilton and Montrose.   

 

Edited September 27, 2020 by The Johnster

[Tankerman]

On 18/09/2020 at 13:31, steve W said:

A couple of holiday snaps from Falmouth yesterday.

The Opaline RoRo (Cobelfret) in the Queen Elizabeth dry dock displaying her stern. Detached rudder in the dock on the port side.  Next to the workshops on the left is one of the few remmnants of the internal railway system, most of it has now disappeared.

The Eastern side of the yard has changed significantly with the covering in of the adjacent dry dock and the huge construction halls of Pendennis super yachts for the super rich.

 

 

The patrol vessel 'Tamar' being fussed over by a couple of tugs on the way into Falmouth, passing St Mawes Castle with

the town in the background

 

 

Unusual to see a ship docked stern first, probably because work is being carried out on the stern ramp.

 

The pictures brought back memories for me. I was an electrical apprentice at what was then Silley, Cox and Co from 1962 to 1967, then a further year as electrician before becoming an Electrical Officer at sea. Which was my reason for going there in the first place.

[chris p bacon]

43 minutes ago, Tankerman said:

 

Unusual to see a ship docked stern first, probably because work is being carried out on the stern ramp.

 

The pictures brought back memories for me. I was an electrical apprentice at what was then Silley, Cox and Co from 1962 to 1967, then a further year as electrician before becoming an Electrical Officer at sea. Which was my reason for going there in the first place.

 

It looks like the 2 stacks of containers are there to support the stern door.

 

Mum was from Penryn and met Dad when he docked in Falmouth in 49 on British Duke and subsequently on British Venture in 1950. Grandad worked at Silley, Cox & Co and said as Dad was an engineer he was good enough to marry.