RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, cctransuk said: there are no shortcuts to good running. Agreed, though I manage happily without the droppers in the interests of minimising electrical connections, which are not the best example of bombproof reliability with my soldering, and because the underside of the boards is not easily accessible underneath all of the track. There is a single feed point with two bridging wires where there are kickback sidings in relation to it, and current is directed around the layout (DC, remember) by the set of the turnouts. There are also two simple isolating sections; these are sufficient for all movements though of course I can only make one move at a time and am considering another feed and controller for the colliery so that two movements can be accomplished simultaneously. KISS, Keep It Simple, Stupid, has worked well for me! Good quality slow running and smooth stops and starts are important to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Has anyone had issue with the sound fitting loco just while stationary just start making a high pitch noise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Could be the fireman's turned on the injector .... or the safety valve's about to lift !! 🙄 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartGWR Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 I very much like the 94xx which I have just purchased - it looks amazing, and gives a good account of itself on the track. However there is a niggling (potential) mechanical problem. It looks as if Bachmann have repeated the disastrous design mistake they made in the 1980's/1990's, when all their gear trains were configured to push the driving axle out of the frames when the slightest amount of wear had occurred, and torque was needed. Has anyone tried cleaning the wheels? I found that this historic fault was happening on the new loco, but not, as yet, when running. It may be that inserting packing beneath the keeper plate on the gear side will cure this, as thankfully the loco does have proper bearings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) I somewhat belatedly purchased 9479 yesterday and noticed it has a right-facing emblem (ie the wrong way round) on the right-hand side. I then looked at a photo in my own collection which confirms this is correct. 9479_OOC_11-60 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Edited October 23, 2023 by robertcwp Typo. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 How rare were the right-facing totems? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted October 23, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Miss Prism said: How rare were the right-facing totems? 2 hours ago, Miss Prism said: How rare were the right-facing totems? Depends how many left-facing ones are left on the transfer sheet. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 12 hours ago, Miss Prism said: How rare were the right-facing totems? They were standard on the right hand side from when the emblem was introduced until the College of Arms found out and told BR to change it. I don’t have an exact date but it was late 1950s. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) So, presumably 1957-58 for new insignia applications ? (Right-facing insignia would be visible for several years after that.) Edited October 24, 2023 by Miss Prism Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porkscratching Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Always seemed odd to me that they caved in on the facing direction thing, you'd think it'd be a case of "it's our logo, which we've paid to have designed and produced, we'll put it whichever way round we want"... Its not like anyone else is going to use the reversed one! 😁 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted October 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2023 54 minutes ago, Porkscratching said: Always seemed odd to me that they caved in on the facing direction thing, you'd think it'd be a case of "it's our logo, which we've paid to have designed and produced, we'll put it whichever way round we want"... Its not like anyone else is going to use the reversed one! 😁 The problem was that BR decided to register the new logo with The College of Heralds (Arms?); they need not have done so. What they overlooked was that the registered logo was left-facing, and coats-of-arms must be as registered - you cannot have LH and RH versions. Unfortunately, the situation was wholly of BR's making! CJI. 3 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porkscratching Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 They'd have been better off just registering both versions as a reg trade mark type of thing then.. I suppose they were just trying to be all posh with the "heralds" malarkey! On a slightly different tack, didn't they use the arrow of indecision round the "wrong way" or mirror imaged for BR ferries? I seem to recall it was done like that on the Tilbury ferry when I used to go over daily for a while in the mid 70s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Reverse arrows because shipping passes to the opposite side of trains 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 26 minutes ago, Porkscratching said: They'd have been better off just registering both versions as a reg trade mark type of thing then.. I suppose they were just trying to be all posh with the "heralds" malarkey! On a slightly different tack, didn't they use the arrow of indecision round the "wrong way" or mirror imaged for BR ferries? I seem to recall it was done like that on the Tilbury ferry when I used to go over daily for a while in the mid 70s. Only on one side, the arrow was intended to always face towards the bow. They were on the funnel of course. Paul 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welchester Posted October 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2023 3 hours ago, hmrspaul said: Only on one side, the arrow was intended to always face towards the bow. They were on the funnel of course. Paul On the flag too, which looked different from either side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porkscratching Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I just had a look at a few old pics of the Tilbury ferry "Edith" which was generally the one l seemed to catch (there was another one Catherine which only operated occasionally) and sure enough the symbol on the "nearside" is reversed so the top arrow faces forward, looks really odd as you're so used to seeing it the "right" way round! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2023 14 hours ago, Porkscratching said: They'd have been better off just registering both versions as a reg trade mark type of thing then.. I suppose they were just trying to be all posh with the "heralds" malarkey! On a slightly different tack, didn't they use the arrow of indecision round the "wrong way" or mirror imaged for BR ferries? I seem to recall it was done like that on the Tilbury ferry when I used to go over daily for a while in the mid 70s. Wasting taxpayer money is nothing new. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 23 hours ago, cctransuk said: ... What they overlooked was that the registered logo was left-facing, and coats-of-arms must be as registered - you cannot have LH and RH versions. ... OK - so what was there to prevent BR using a registered version on one tank/tender side and absolutely anything else they fancied ( including an un-registered version ) on t'other ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) Its nebulus anyway, if the loco was going tender first… theyd still be facing backwards to direction of travel. And on a diesel.. what then as either direction is forward ? Edited October 25, 2023 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted October 25, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: OK - so what was there to prevent BR using a registered version on one tank/tender side and absolutely anything else they fancied ( including an un-registered version ) on t'other ? That was not the way that 'things were done' back then - one respected the authority of bodies with which one engaged; one did not try to circumvent them. Not the done thing at all, old boy! CJI. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, cctransuk said: That was not the way that 'things were done' back then - one respected the authority of bodies with which one engaged; one did not try to circumvent them. Not the done thing at all, old boy! CJI. But isnt that exactly what they did do… use two different emblems ? it wasnt unique to BR either… BOACs speedbird never flies backwards. the whole thing is a waste of cash, and they ended up binning it anyways. i’m not sure its done today either… Avanti’ 390’s have the logo facing one way, which means one way at one end the logo is facing the front, the other side its facing the train. Edited October 25, 2023 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted October 25, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) Only until the College told them to 'Stop it'! ...... then they just used the LH-facing version on both sides. CJI. Edited October 25, 2023 by cctransuk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted October 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, adb968008 said: But isnt that exactly what they did do… use two different emblems ? it wasnt unique to BR either… BOACs speedbird never flies backwards. BOAC and later BA had the union flag different on either side of the fuselage. Every so often some know it all 'discovers' the flag is upside down on the starboard side of the fuselage - except it isn't. The convention is that the staff (flagpole to most of us) is at the front of the aircraft and so the flag on starboard side is the reverse side of the flag. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) On 24/10/2023 at 09:31, cctransuk said: The problem was that BR decided to register the new logo with The College of Heralds (Arms?); they need not have done so. What they overlooked was that the registered logo was left-facing, and coats-of-arms must be as registered - you cannot have LH and RH versions. Unfortunately, the situation was wholly of BR's making! CJI. The use of a crown is restricted - permission is supposed to be sought so it is possible that this why BR went to the College of Arms. The old Min of Ag got into trouble when it went to alter a mark that was used to show a pesticide had been through the official approval scheme. IIRC this had to alter when such approval became a Common Market/EU agreement (many years after the UK joined the EEC). It was realised that the mark that had been in use, from possibly the 1950s, which was an A on top of a crown had never been officially registered. Paul Edited October 26, 2023 by hmrspaul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Purchased the preserved 9466 model which I found has no etched number plates with it. Bachmann have confirmed that none are supplied. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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