RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 18, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) Over on my wagon-building thread, there's some indication that I'm not the only person not to have received from POWSides an order placed (and paid for) in or since April - does anyone have any information? Often with these small firms there can be a hiatus due to illness or other issues, when dealing with the commercial activity can become a low priority. I trust there's not too big a problem with this valuable supplier and that the individuals concerned and their families are well. I made an order on 12 Jan 17 (transfers only) which was delivered promptly but a more recent order of 7 April (transfers and unpainted wagon kits) hasn't been delivered. I note their website says last updated 18 March. Like at least one other, I've emailed without getting a response but haven't yet got round to trying phoning. Edited June 28, 2017 by Compound2632 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cram Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I ordered 2 kits earlier in the yearand theydid take a while to come. I suspect that they are made to order which may be why they take longer than just the transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 18, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 18, 2017 I ordered 2 kits earlier in the yearand theydid take a while to come. I suspect that they are made to order which may be why they take longer than just the transfers. These were unpainted Slaters PO wagon kits so one would assume no preparation necessary. Their website quotes delivery times of 2-4 weeks for transfers and 4-6 weeks for pre-lettered kits; I've always found them prompt in the past. Mikkel had had speedy delivery of unpainted wagons not so long before my April order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted June 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2017 Yes, I can see from my e-mails that my last order - for a couple of unlettered kits - was placed March 24 and I remember receiving them within a week here in Denmark. Back in early January I ordered some lettered kits and these took about 4 weeks to arrive. I received a polite explanation and apology, apparently it takes a couple of weeks to have the wagons printed and they were a bit behind for personal reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Just ordered and received transfers, within a coupke of weeks I think. Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmay2002 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 These were unpainted Slaters PO wagon kits so one would assume no preparation necessary. Their website quotes delivery times of 2-4 weeks for transfers and 4-6 weeks for pre-lettered kits; I've always found them prompt in the past. Mikkel had had speedy delivery of unpainted wagons not so long before my April order. Don't Slater's wagons come from the Coopercraft black hole if at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 18, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 18, 2017 Don't Slater's wagons come from the Coopercraft black hole if at all? POWSides evidently have their own source or stock of some of the PO types that they use for some of their pre-lettered kits and do advertise as being available separately - Mikkel had ordered successfully. Don't all rush... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted June 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2017 Some of their kits use Parkside Dundas bits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 18, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 18, 2017 Some of their kits use Parkside Dundas bits. This is also true - they use those for the liveries appropriate to RCH 1923 12 ton wagons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Harrison Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I ordered a pair of pre-lettered kits back in January/ February which took about three months to arrive (I did email them in about the April asking when I might expect them, but got no reply). Previous to that (around the middle of last year) I ordered some transfers, which did arrive quite quickly, within a fortnight if I remember rightly, however since then I have ordered more transfers which I have been waiting on now for three or four weeks. I guess what I'm taking from this experience is that I will get them when I get them, which is very frustrating but then again they are a small business (of the one-man-band variety?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted June 18, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 18, 2017 Don't Slater's wagons come from the Coopercraft black hole if at all? No, the PO wagons are still made by Slaters for POWsides, something Mr.D is not happy about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmay2002 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 POWSides evidently have their own source or stock of some of the PO types that they use for some of their pre-lettered kits They may advertise them but there isn't a separate source. POWsides still have to get the kits from Coopecraft who have the moulds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2017 The only delay I've ever encountered was an order for an 0 gauge wagon kit when he was waiting for another batch of kits to come from the manufacturer and then he had to do the sides before he could send it to me. I received a very quick response to an e mail I sent asking about the delay. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted June 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2017 No, the PO wagons are still made by Slaters for POWsides, something Mr.D is not happy about. They may advertise them but there isn't a separate source. POWsides still have to get the kits from Coopecraft who have the moulds. So which is it........ They only way to find out is................FIGHT......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 18, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) ... or not. Nile, Andy, what is the evidence for your statements? No, the PO wagons are still made by Slaters for POWsides, something Mr.D is not happy about. He may not be... ... but we are. They may advertise them but there isn't a separate source. POWsides still have to get the kits from Coopecraft who have the moulds. I had no intention of starting another Coopercraft thread here. Edited June 18, 2017 by Compound2632 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted June 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) POWSides evidently have their own source or stock of some of the PO types that they use for some of their pre-lettered kits and do advertise as being available separately - Mikkel had ordered successfully. Don't all rush... Packed with their own POWsides branding. An interesting little mystery where they get them... Edited June 18, 2017 by Mikkel 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jol Wilkinson Posted June 19, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 19, 2017 From conversations with those having contacts within the Trade, I believe that the arrangement between Coopercraft and Slaters was about retailing the 4mm and 7mm ranges and that production of the 4mm Slaters kits was still done by Slaters. I would assume that, as possibly the biggest purchaser of 4mm and 7mm Slaters wagon kits, POWSides might have a separate contract for purchasing the kits direct. Of course, this is conjecture, as are many of the other posts in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 19, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 19, 2017 (edited) From conversations with those having contacts within the Trade, I believe that the arrangement between Coopercraft and Slaters was about retailing the 4mm and 7mm ranges and that production of the 4mm Slaters kits was still done by Slaters. I would assume that, as possibly the biggest purchaser of 4mm and 7mm Slaters wagon kits, POWSides might have a separate contract for purchasing the kits direct. Of course, this is conjecture, as are many of the other posts in this thread. I really don't want this to descend into another Coopercraft thread but this has been said before and carries the implication that Slaters could manufacture the Midland, NER, etc. kits if they could extract themselves from Coopercraft as the current distributor. Possibly POWSides' contract pre-dates the arrangement with Coopercraft. I would have some sympathy with Coopercraft's unhappiness as reported by Nile, if he was actually supplying the kits in competition with POWSides. Anyway, as Jol says, this is speculation: the point is, the PO kits are available from POWSides but for some reason mine haven't arrived. As no-one has stepped forward to say POWSides are ill or otherwise distressed, I'll get round to giving them a call. Edited June 19, 2017 by Compound2632 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I assumed that the PO wagons were separate to the railway company wagons as until recently C&L were selling them. I bought a few that were labelled as such. Within the last five years or so anyway. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 19, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 19, 2017 I assumed that the PO wagons were separate to the railway company wagons as until recently C&L were selling them. I bought a few that were labelled as such. Within the last five years or so anyway. Jason The Slaters 4mm kits were in C&L's hands before passing to Coopercraft. Possibly longer ago than you are thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2010 according to this post. So a bit out. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/7731-slaters-4mm-wagon-kits/ And they were still in the proper boxes, but labelled C&L. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Harrison Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 My order arrived today; as I said in my first post service recently seems to have slowed down considerably but goods do, after a while, arrive. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbowilts Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Well in my case I ordered two sets of 4mm transfers on April 23rd. He states on his website allow up to 4 weeks for delivery. By my reckoning we are now at 8 weeks and no transfers and no response to two emails chasing up the orders. A most unsatisfactory situation, especially as noone else does these particular transfers Tim T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poggy1165 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I had to wait months for some transfers I'd ordered. It go to the point where I'd almost forgotten the project. However, after a nudge, they did arrive. I think they have been hit by illness, and IIRC, a bereavement. Patience may be needed, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 23, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2017 I had to wait months for some transfers I'd ordered. It go to the point where I'd almost forgotten the project. However, after a nudge, they did arrive. I think they have been hit by illness, and IIRC, a bereavement. Patience may be needed, Thanks - that's the sort of hiatus I imagined and was holding me back from hassling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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