For those interested in old buses (and coaches)

[Derek 19B]

It must be 10years plus since I was last in there , I remember a Rotherham Corporation bus , smallest production double decker sticks in my mind . Could be wrong why it was in there , possibly a Crossley (spelling?) 

derek

 

[Johann Marsbar]

8 hours ago, PhilJ W said:

Be interesting to know what else is stored there.

 

Nothing else bus wise in that hangar, but can do you an interesting selection of (mainly London) fire engines.....

 

 

 

[laurenceb]

The first utility double deker is stored there

[Johann Marsbar]

Elsewhere on site are the remaining trolleybus in the Science Museum Group collection - a 1939 AEC ex Brighton - plus that 1929 Leyland TD1, DR 4902, that carries a pseudo Eastern Counties livery. The TD1 spent a long while (1960's-1990's) on loan to the East Anglia Transport Museum at Carlton Colville before the SMG recalled it.

A quick look at the likes of Google Earth will show the number of storage buildings on site at Wroughton - and the majority have had no public access to them, even on the few open days that have been held there.  One of the staff members who was with us on Friday had never even been in the hangar we retrieved 44 from and he had worked there a number of years!

[John M Upton]

I could have sworn the Science Museum collection had an early Southdown Leyland National. 

 

Has that gone?

[Johann Marsbar]

15 minutes ago, John M Upton said:

I could have sworn the Science Museum collection had an early Southdown Leyland National. 

 

Has that gone?

 

Doing a search for "Buses" in the SMG online collections comes up with the following full size ones.....

 

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co8089540/hydrogen-fuel-cell-bus-buses

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co8352687/bristol-ls-bus-buses

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co24539/bus-buses

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co24229/bedford-coach-buses

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co24550/regal-iv-bus-buses

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co24537/fiat-bus-buses

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co8352630/hydrogen-fuel-cell-bus-buses

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co423758/arab-ii-utility-bus-double-decker-bus

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co26318/leyland-titan-pd2-1-bus-1948-omnibus

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co423754/leyland-titan-double-decker-bus-omnibus-double-decker-bus

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co423763/regal-bus-single-decker-bus

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co423761/leyland-lion-single-decker-bus-1928-single-decker-bus-omnibus

 

Not sure how accurate  their system is though, as the Brighton trolleybus didn't appear when I searched for it and the Moulton Safety Coach isn't in that list either!   

No Leyland National shown and there seem to be two identical Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles in the system...

[John M Upton]

Ah, 'buses' doesn't work but 'bus' does:

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co25433/leyland-national-single-deck-bus-1973-omnibus

 

[DIW]

On 22/04/2022 at 22:36, DIW said:

I just googled that coach to see when it was made. Perhaps its bodywork was inspired by Thunderbirds?

Further to the theme of Thunderbird-esque buses, here's a link to Tim Traveller's video about the Cityrama Currus Citroen 55.

[leopardml2341]

On 23/04/2022 at 13:46, Derek 19B said:

It must be 10years plus since I was last in there , I remember a Rotherham Corporation bus , smallest production double decker sticks in my mind . Could be wrong why it was in there , possibly a Crossley (spelling?) 

derek

 

Yes there is.

 

It's HET513, RCT fleet number 213, the very last true Crossley to be built; a DD42/8 model.

Edited April 26, 2022 by leopardml2341

[Johann Marsbar]

This popped up on the "suggested videos" on YT an hour or so ago.....

 

 

Some interesting DDR era vehicles on there amongst the odd BRD ones.

[Gwiwer]

On 24/04/2022 at 09:13, John M Upton said:

Ah, 'buses' doesn't work but 'bus' does:

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co25433/leyland-national-single-deck-bus-1973-omnibus

 

A Worthing car from birth to death.  Delivered to convert the town routes to OMO from the good old Queen Mary PD3s (the last of which ran on the 7 and 17 Lancing Circulars and were replaced by the later Leyland Nationals from around 16 - 25).

 

1 and 2 both had experimental transmissions and were kept at Brighton to be under the close scrutiny of Portslade Works; 3 - 5 and 7, 8 went to Bognor Regis to convert the cross-town route 50/50A (Elmer - Pagham) from Queen Marys, 6 was another one at Brighton and 9 - 25 were new to Worthing.  The Brighton ones worked their share of the 9 (Brighton - Littlehampton, but cut back to Broadwater Green on OMO conversion), again a conversion from Queen Marys; 9 - 15 nominally worked Worthing's share of the 9 but after a few days it was a case of any National on any National duty.  That covered the town routes 200, 203, 204, 206, 207 and 217.  The rest were worked by Leopards or Bristols.  Six Queen Marys remained for five duties on the 230 coast road to Brighton and two Atlanteans were allocated for the two Coastliner 700 duties.  Fleetlines worked the 231-4 group to Bognor Regis and a handful of busy trips on the 201 to Midhurst and 202 to Horsham.  

 

Worthing was also responsible for the four-vehicle Storrington dormy shed (outstation) for which Leopard 204 was a stalwart - and even gained an unofficial "St" allocation disc replacing its "W" one; the others were short Bristols or Leopards because long Bristols and Nationals would not fit in the garage.  Worthing also oversaw the Henfield garage allocation which was also a mix of Leopards and Bristols.  

[phil_sutters]

On 24/04/2022 at 09:13, John M Upton said:

Ah, 'buses' doesn't work but 'bus' does:

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co25433/leyland-national-single-deck-bus-1973-omnibus

 

Generally searching is best done in the singular - that way you should get both the singular and plural - bus and buses. That is unless the plural is a bit unusual - can't think of one at the moment, though.

[Enterprisingwestern]

1 hour ago, phil_sutters said:

Generally searching is best done in the singular - that way you should get both the singular and plural - bus and buses. That is unless the plural is a bit unusual - can't think of one at the moment, though.

 

Sheep?

 

Mike.

[Gwiwer]

6 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

Sheep?

 

Mike.

Fish

[Enterprisingwestern]

11 minutes ago, Gwiwer said:

Fish

 

Fishes.

 

Mike.

[Gwiwer]

Wrong topic.  

 

 

Edited April 29, 2022 by Gwiwer

[leopardml2341]

7 hours ago, phil_sutters said:

Generally searching is best done in the singular - that way you should get both the singular and plural - bus and buses. That is unless the plural is a bit unusual - can't think of one at the moment, though.

Knickers 🤣

[Gwiwer]

4 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

Fishes.

 

Mike.

Same to you 😜 

https://grammarist.com/usage/fish-fishes/

[Gwiwer]

2 minutes ago, leopardml2341 said:

Knickers 🤣

But it's "One pair of knickers" originating as did "One pair of trousers" when the two sides were made separately and sewn or tied together later.  

[Enterprisingwestern]

1 minute ago, Gwiwer said:

Same to you 😜 

https://grammarist.com/usage/fish-fishes/

 

Ok, you win, too much like hard work for a fish friday!!

 

Mike.

Sent from the fish(es} and chip(s) shop!

[leopardml2341]

OK then; cattle. 

[Enterprisingwestern]

14 minutes ago, leopardml2341 said:

OK then; cattle. 

 

Ok, I'm weak willed and can't resist, cattle is already a plural noun.

 

Mike.

[Johann Marsbar]

As some people seem to be celebrating 50 years of the Leyland National, this is the prototype Suburban Express example seen in 1985 when it was part of the Suffolk County Council Education Department bus fleet....

 

[J. S. Bach]

2 hours ago, Gwiwer said:

G'dafternoon one and all. ...snip... and a green water-boiling object which might gladden the hearts of those who insist Gooch Was Right. ...snip...

Mmmf, i think that I have something like that; way over here hiding in the Piedmont.

[J. S. Bach]

Speaking of prototype (demonstrator in this case), here is one operated by the Cumbres & Toltec Railroad:

 

Apparently it was not a successful product h in the states, I can see why. Photo taken by me July 2014.