RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted July 27, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2017 Staines West... BRWR Staines West.jpg A very nostalgic picture for me. That was one of my favourite routes when doing Green Rover days. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekEm8 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Some vintage bus pics MTM - Manchester Transport Museum Boyle Street Fleetwood - Tram Sunday Lytham 34 Fleetwood 170705 Manchester 28 MTM 091005 [North Western 170 MTM North Western 170 MTM 091005 Ribble 295 Heaton Park 040905 Todmordon 14 MTM 091005 Todmordon 14 MTM 091005 Todmordon 14 MTM 091005 Note the 'Hackney Carriage' at the bottom of the radiator 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Interesting looking at Tilling Steven petrol-electrics and 1930s Leyland gearless buses (remember how those Leylands growled ?). Though obsolete on the road (superseded by drivers required to master crash gearboxes and skilled double de-clutching), both developed into today's preferred traction for rail DMUs. And the bus operators eventually morphed into train Operators - eg. First, Go Ahead and Stagecoach. dh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Interesting looking at Tilling Steven petrol-electrics and 1930s Leyland gearless buses (remember how those Leylands growled ?). Though obsolete on the road (superseded by drivers required to master crash gearboxes and skilled double de-clutching), both developed into today's preferred traction for rail DMUs. And the bus operators eventually morphed into train Operators - eg. First, Go Ahead and Stagecoach. dh And its not just rail which now adopts these types of transmission, they account for virtually all of the conventionally powered buses on our roads. Both have developed massively but the base principles are still the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) By way of a contrast to a pic of ML2341 I posted earlier in this topic. Apologies for the quality (or rather lack of), it's a pic of a pic I'm afraid. I drove it from Lowton (Lancs) to Blackburn in that state too Edited July 31, 2017 by leopardml2341 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted July 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2017 We took OWE 116 from Sheffield to Weymouth in not too dissimilar condition! Mike. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted July 31, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) Despite having spent two months off my feet for medical reasons I managed to shuffle painfully around The Depot in Acton and have now been able to transfer the pictures to the computer for upload. These guided tours are for groups of 10 - 15 and allow a less crowded look at the various items stored (rather than exhibited) here than is possible during the open days. The tour starts with buses, continues to trains and ends with signs, signals and other smaller relics. For this post it's just the buses which I shall assume are either familiar to most or can be Googled based upon the stock or registration numbers shown. The Optare City Pacer might seem a little modern but represents the minibus revolution which began 33 years ago when Harry Blundred put a fleet of bus-conversion Ford Transits onto the streets of Exeter. London's flirtation was brief and small-scale but it marked a turning point from which smaller buses began to penetrate further into housing areas and were able to access sports and shopping centres with limited space where double-deckers could not go. Likewise the Grey Green Volvo is fairly recent but represents the privatisation era and the brief period when buses in central London were not necessarily red. RM1 was parked very tightly in a corner making a good shot impossible while FRM1 and the B-type battle bus were in the workshops which is not available for public access so could only be viewed rear-on. Edited July 31, 2017 by Gwiwer 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted July 31, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2017 That really is a great collection. Really should be somewhere displayed properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted July 31, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 31, 2017 That really is a great collection. Really should be somewhere displayed properly. Most of them go out occasionally to rallies and other events. FRM1 was in for repairs to its cooling system having broken down on the way to somewhere the previous week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Most of them go out occasionally to rallies and other events. FRM1 was in for repairs to its cooling system having broken down on the way to somewhere the previous week. The Achilles heel of most first generation, rear engine deckers, I say most only because some never got far enough to get mildly warm, let alone hot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted August 1, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 1, 2017 The Achilles heel of most first generation, rear engine deckers, I say most only because some never got far enough to get mildly warm, let alone hot! And those that did got VERY hot, often requiring a call from the fire brigade. (IIRC including FRM1) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I'm pretty certain I have a photo of the rare off-piste combination of RM1 and FRM1 at Crich Tramway Museum in the '90s. Will look it out tomorrow. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted August 1, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 1, 2017 I'm pretty certain I have a photo of the rare off-piste combination of RM1 and FRM1 at Crich Tramway Museum in the '90s. Will look it out tomorrow. My tour guide did mention that there have been times when RM1, FRM1 and DMS1 have been parked side by side in the Depot largely for photographic purposes. However they were well spread out on my visit with RM1 being among the trains and FRM1 as shown inside the engineering bays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmisterporter Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Lincolnshire Aviation Museum at East Kirkby has this Bedford WLG. Sorry I couldn't remember any more data about this. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DerekEm8 Posted August 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) Heaton Park Manchester 2nd September 2012 (Part 2) Leeds 916 Lancashire United 114 LUT 438 Manchester 1001 Manchester 4127, Salford 511 Maynes (Manchester)SNC365X Mexborough & Swinton 658 Morecambe 69 Preston 42559 Preston G215KRN Rawtenstall 58 RF 508 RM1152 RML2452 Rochdale 235 Rochdale235, SHMD 76 RT 2794 Wallace Arnold VUB 3968 Warrington 24 York - West Yorkshire Edited August 18, 2017 by DerekEm8 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 45156 Posted August 19, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 19, 2017 Odd sight coming towards me yesterday when I was driving home from Lancaster, when an RML in full LT livery passed us going the other way into town. It appeared to be a private hire as the destination board was showing "wedding special". As I was driving, no pic, and as I was concentrating on the road, I didn't get the fleet number either. My missus, who is a Londoner remarked that it was nice to see a "proper bus". 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted August 19, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 19, 2017 I very much doubt that would have been the same one which passed us yesterday displaying exactly the same, complete with white ribbons, at Kings Cross around 3.45pm "Ours" was RML2323 in full red livery. Which s arguably incorrect as RML2323 was a country area green bus for most of its life based at Northfleet (NF) and spent most of its time on the 480, 487 and 488 around Gravesend and Dartford. When LCBS withdrew their Routemasters most ended up back in the "red" central area fleets for a short time and probably including RML2323. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 There's something quintisentially 'right' about the '50s, '60s, and early '70s vehicles posted above, it must be something to do with their timeless familiarity... 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted August 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2017 A couple of photos of old coaches or charabancs - the first is really of my grandmother at Brighton in 1922, but it has a couple of period charas in the background. The other is a postcard that I acquired, I know not when, but it is a south London subject near where I spent my working life, in a later part of the 20th century. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted August 22, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 22, 2017 A couple of photos of old coaches or charabancs - the first is really of my grandmother at Brighton in 1922, but it has a couple of period charas in the background. The other is a postcard that I acquired, I know not when, but it is a south London subject near where I spent my working life, in a later part of the 20th century. Elsie Brighton 1922.jpgDinky Darling by Pierpoynt of Charlton.jpg The chara behind your Grandmother is a Thorneycroft. The one in front of it is an AEC or possibly a Daimler. The one in the second pic is a Crossley, ex RAF tender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark374 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 A great thread here, gonna spend a few hours looking over it, i think, Ive been in to buses for a few years and have travelled to a few bus shows around the country mainly onboard a Mkl national Ive also worked on the restoration of a few Leyland Nationals Leyland National Mkl WHH 556S this was one of the first i worked on. Orginally used by Leyland as a test bus it then went to Torotrak for a varible transmission test bed before going to work for a local frim and then on to preservation Blue and yellow of Daglish bus co. back as Rev 01 (minus the center doors CEO 720W Mkll national new to Barrow it worked there for a few years before before being sold on it was later bought by a barrow based preservation group before being sold on were it was finshed in Barrow Corp blue and cream GRM 353L by far one of the oldest national preserved new to cumberland in 1973 it worked in cumbria untill being sold on to Birmingham coach company then stagecoach before being bought by daglish buses, it was sold on to preservation but sat for a decade in the open, before being restored line up of 3 national variants, Mkl, Mkll & Mkl country cousin outside the former leyland factory i have over 300-400 photos from shows ill post a few now and then Mark 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark374 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) Few photos from various shows ive attended Two Foden MC metro buses belive two of only a handfull built Leyland panther? (if correct) Dennis dominator Portaguese left hand drive AEC regent lll Cyprus Bedford J5 Metro bus line up Albion Valkyrie Sydney Albion Venture GVVT depot Bristol KSW & L56 top three North West Vehicle Restoration Trust openday 2016 Stagecoach openday Morecombe 2015 next three Showbus 2016 next two Scotish Vintage Bus Musuem 2016 GVVT 2016 last photo Kirby Stephen rally 2015 Mark *Edit ive added some info on the buses, for everyone sorry if not correct * Edited August 22, 2017 by mark374 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted August 22, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2017 Nice selection Mark, a bit of info wouldn't go amiss on each photo please. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 45156 Posted August 22, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 22, 2017 Nice selection Mark, a bit of info wouldn't go amiss on each photo please. Mike. Love to know where the Western SMT PD3s and Central Lodekka FLF were pictured. I'm guessing they're preserved somewhere, as they appear to be in liveries from a slightly different time, as I think the Lodekka is in a later version, as I don't recall seeing them with Central Scottish on the side, or the St Andrew's cross. Of course my memory ain't what it was, so I could be totally wrong. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Love to know where the Western SMT PD3s and Central Lodekka FLF were pictured. I'm guessing they're preserved somewhere, as they appear to be in liveries from a slightly different time, as I think the Lodekka is in a later version, as I don't recall seeing them with Central Scottish on the side, or the St Andrew's cross. Of course my memory ain't what it was, so I could be totally wrong. Looks like GVVT premises to me http://www.gvvt.org Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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