Popular Post coachmann Posted May 25, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2017 Outdoor track laying completed at last. The Peco bullhead has been taken outside for a few feet. The original plan was to have a turnout here at the end of Carrog's loop.... Instead, the double track was extended around the loop so that the turnout is back inside the shed.... 29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Looks nice. I note the sun is streaming down. What's your philosophy on feeds, fishplates and expansion on the outside bits. If you've explained before excuse my question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Looks Good Larry, will the other end also be Double Tracked as well now? Much better idea to bring the Point inside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Nice 14xx Larry, is it Hattons/DJM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 Looks nice. I note the sun is streaming down. What's your philosophy on feeds, fishplates and expansion on the outside bits. If you've explained before excuse my question. The extension built in April 2016 complete with Peco Code 100 was never a problem. The only feed was just inside the doorway. It fed the whole of the loop. As now, the track was laid in hot weather while the rails were expanded. It was 95 degrees in the shed late afternoon while laying a new fiddle yard. Rail-joiners for carry the current. Regarding the extension now nearing completion, Track for the first two feet will be fed from the toe of the turnout leading to the twin tracks, then there are insulating rail joiners. The remainder of the tracks on the extension will be fed from the opposite end from within the shed and will be permanently live. All tracks within the shed are kept live with numerous feeds to keep the DCC Sound locos 'alive' when standing in the yard and in a platform. Things are different in the fiddle yard where points isolate tracks and keep locos schtum! Hope this helps. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted May 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2017 The extension built in April 2016 complete with Peco Code 100 was never a problem. The only feed was just inside the doorway. It fed the whole of the loop. As now, the track was laid in hot weather while the rails were expanded. It was 95 degrees in the shed late afternoon while laying a new fiddle yard. Did the corresponding winter contraction cause any significant gaps at the rail joints, Larry? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) Looks Good Larry, will the other end also be Double Tracked as well now? Much better idea to bring the Point inside. Hi Andy, The track from Carrog to Glyn' is single as per the real thing so there is no call for double track on the original extension. Nice 14xx Larry, is it Hattons/DJM? It's a DJM'Hattons which arrived weathered. I toned it down with a blow over of diluted satin black. Like a few of my locos, it has been waiting for delivery of engraved plates. Edited May 25, 2017 by coachmann 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melangoose Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Even though steam is not my thing, I must admit that I am following with much interest. Superb workmanship in every way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 The end of the extended Carrog platform loop now feeds into the fiddle yard. Sidings are much shorter than hitherto but this is the price I am prepared to pay for using only large radius points. In fact short sidings are of little consequence when typical trains on the Llangollen line are short. There is one long dead end siding under the windows..... This completes all track laying. Minimum radius anywhere is 3ft. Protective weather 'tunnels' for the two extra shed outlets will be built in the morning..... 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 Did the corresponding winter contraction cause any significant gaps at the rail joints, Larry? Hi Captain...No. On colder days there is more of a clickety-click but nothing potentially derailable. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) The end of the extended Carrog platform loop now feeds into the fiddle yard. Sidings are much shorter than hitherto but this is the price I am prepared to pay for using only large radius points. In fact short sidings are of little consequence when typical trains on the Llangollen line are short. There is one long dead end siding under the windows..... WEB fiddle yard 1.jpg This completes all track laying. Minimum radius anywhere is 3ft. Protective weather 'tunnels' for the two extra shed outlets will be built in the morning..... WEB fiddle yard 2.jpg Just a thought Larry, replace the 2 Points with a D/S and then you can still re use the other points and gain about 2 ft per loop. Edited May 25, 2017 by Andrew P 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) Just a thought Larry, replace the 2 Points with a D/S and then you can still re use the other points and gain about 2 ft per loop. I set the 3ft minimum radius from the outset and designed the layout accordingly because 3ft does not impose a drastic knock-on affect on locos and coaches. By contrast, 2ft radius slips would compromise everything by forcing me to run locos with front steps set too wide apart to clear bogie wheels and compromise my Kadee couplings by setting coach buffers too far apart. Edited May 25, 2017 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold unravelled Posted May 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2017 As always I'm enjoying the build process and progress. I did wonder whether it would be possible to add another point where the double track enters the shed, making a trailing crossover from the double section. Then take one or more of the window side loops of the fiddleyard off that, making them longer. It would lose some flexibility of operation, as an anticlockwise running train couldn't access the window side loops, but could usefully increase storage. Thanks Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted May 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2017 Hi Larry, I do like the way the track disappears out of the shed and looks to go "somewhere". It reminds me of the great Ken Paine's Last Great Project in O gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark axlecounter Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Hi Larry, I have been catching up and must say I'm jealous looks like you are enjoying it. Keep up the good work. Mark towers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) Sun stopped play today. Back out again at 6pm though wearing a body warmer to protect the back and neck which had copped it earlier. The two tunnels are now completed and that ends a weeks work in the garden. The tunnels were built exactly as the two made in 2016 although these are slightly longer..... The other tunnel has a transparent top so that daylight shows under the overbridge at Carrog station. The sides taper down and there is a gutter at the end to deflect rainwater to each side of the track.... General view.... Edited May 26, 2017 by coachmann 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff park Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 You don't appear to have a gutter for your shed roof. Wouldn't that stop quite a bit of rain landing on your track ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted May 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 29, 2017 Thanks for showing this step by step, Larry. A Danish friend recently asked how something like this could be done, so I'll be directing him here (that's step one, step two will be to convince him to run British outline). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Sun stopped play today. Back out again at 6pm though wearing a body warmer to protect the back and neck which had copped it earlier. The two tunnels are now completed and that ends a weeks work in the garden. The tunnels were built exactly as the two made in 2016 although these are slightly longer..... WEB extension 31.jpg The other tunnel has a transparent top so that daylight shows under the overbridge at Carrog station. The sides taper down and there is a gutter at the end to deflect rainwater to each side of the track.... WEB Extension 34.jpg WEB extension 36.jpg General view.... WEB extension 35.jpg Excellent progress Larry and well built too if i may say so .....I like the 'Avalanche' shelters all ready for the north wales winter climate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Very quiet on here Larry, any updates to share with us mere mortals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Very quiet on here Larry, any updates to share with us mere mortals? He has probably finished. Wait - hang on, that is what you would do! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 He's probably got the lawnmower stuck under the track and is cursing that he didn't follow Andrew's advice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted June 2, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 2, 2017 Does this restrict running in the winter? It's quite amazing and makes me want to expand outside! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted June 2, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 2, 2017 Not as long as the lawnmower hasn't damaged the timber supports.... Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted June 2, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 2, 2017 Having followed Larry's threads in the past, the track has come up, and we are now on 2mm Finescale, Manchester Victoria with Miles Platting Bank and Newton Heath shed to enable him to run the Red Bank Parceks rake in full.! Hat, coat etc and running for the hills Regards Ian 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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