Mr chapman Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I have to say with locomotives getting more and more expensive, the ability to pay for a crowd funder in stages is an attractive prospect. Perhaps your not be able to lay out £130 in one go. Something like the king will let you pay in stages with time to save in between Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 After a bumper week I can let you all know that as the adverts hit the magazines etc, the crowdfunding total has leapt to just under 50% funded. Thank you to all who have put your name down for one, and with a few weeks left we have a darn good chance of making this happen. Cheers Dave 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr chapman Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Whens the deadline for last orders again please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Dave, Forgive me if these points have been raised before but: 1. Which method of attaching the number plates to the cab sides do you intend to employ and 2 Will the loco body be easily detachable from the chassis ? Thanks. Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 After a bumper week I can let you all know that as the adverts hit the magazines etc, the crowdfunding total has leapt to just under 50% funded. That is exciting news. I will keep my fingers crossed and give this another push wherever I can. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted June 10, 2017 Author Share Posted June 10, 2017 As of 11.31am on Saturday 10th June the Crowdfunding has increased to 65% (no pie charts) the rest should be easy huh? Nah, but at least its past that psychological 50% barrier by a reasonable margin. Cheers Dave 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Would buying extra models to flog on eBay be a morally grey area? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted June 10, 2017 Author Share Posted June 10, 2017 Would buying extra models to flog on eBay be a morally grey area? Not really as you'd be doing it for altruistic reasons. If you did it with those reasons in mind I'd pray you wouldn't make a loss. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr chapman Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Would buying extra models to flog on eBay be a morally grey area? I've ordered one to try and help the western guys out. Once these hit the shops I'll sell it to someone who missed out at the same price. It's a case of getting them produced in the first place. Who knows... Further down the line maybe a king arthur or something will go to crowd funding and a western guy will return the favour 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted June 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 11, 2017 Nothing morally grey about it, anybody can join the crowdfunding, nobody needs a model and you are quite free to not buy on Ebay. I can never quite see why some get so upset about buying extra models to sell. I can see more of an argument if people buy multiples of a genuine limited edition but even then it's a free market and I don't see it as being morally wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted June 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) Would buying extra models to flog on eBay be a morally grey area? It's not morally grey at all, its fine, but remember to break even you will need to sell the model for £158 (eBay fees and Paypal fees without any offers will eat up the rest of the money). This figure is based on a £5 postage cost charged to the buyer. edit - in the case of a sale at £158 + £5 for postage you will actually be 46p up. Edited June 11, 2017 by Kris 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium steam-driven boy Posted June 12, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 12, 2017 Hi, KH6 on day 1, KE2 added yesterday so maxed-out now Regards, Gerry. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Dave, Forgive me if these points have been raised before but: 1. Which method of attaching the number plates to the cab sides do you intend to employ and 2 Will the loco body be easily detachable from the chassis ? Thanks. Colin Dave, ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share Posted June 12, 2017 Dave, ??? Sorry, been away for almost 18 days and missed this. To answer your questions to both........ No idea mate! The cad needs shrinking first and that also takes money. I'd rather wait until we've hopefully reached target point first before thinking about all the minutiae. Either way I'm going to pee someone off no matter which way I go with those 2. Lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Sorry, been away for almost 18 days and missed this. To answer your questions to both........ No idea mate! The cad needs shrinking first and that also takes money. I'd rather wait until we've hopefully reached target point first before thinking about all the minutiae. Either way I'm going to pee someone off no matter which way I go with those 2. Lol Dave, In view of the huge controversy these points caused in relation to the Hattons 14xx I am surprised you refer to them as "minutiae". In view of that controversy can you not at least confirm that you will NOT be employing the same methods for this projected model? Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share Posted June 12, 2017 Dave, In view of the huge controversy these points caused in relation to the Hattons 14xx I am surprised you refer to them as "minutiae". In view of that controversy can you not at least confirm that you will NOT be employing the same methods for this projected model? Colin Hi, I'm not saying I won't, but hard evidence with the Hall, manor, 28xx in N would suggest than in N gauge its less of a problem as many many thousands of those locomotives have been sold with minimal negative feedback. Indeed, you could also argue it's been very successful in OO gauge on the 14xx too. I'm not discounting people's opinions here, merely recounting that there is a vocal amount of modellers that don't like this feature in OO that have to be balanced against the many many many thousands of modellers who are perfectly happy with their models in both gauges that have it. But like I say, it's early days, but if every crowdfunder for the king told me that they didnt want it, I would, of course, listen to them and action accordingly. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Moulded cab plates = harder to change Seperate cab plates = more likely to fall off and be lost On balance I just about prefer moulded in. I have a couple of 28xx which are identical. If the number plates were separate I would have renumbered one of them as they are moulded I haven't. Then again I rarely get close enough to be able to read the number anyway so if they were different numbers I wouldn't notice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I have to admit I have always been perfectly satisfied with the recessed nameplates on the Dapol GWR steamers. Is the issue that it is harder to get replacement numberplates to fit when renumbering? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I would imagine that recessed number plates in an N gauge model is overall fairly moot. What will matter in certain peoples eyes, is the second question, which is the ability to strip the loco down to its basic parts which was seen as a pain point in some peoples eyes on the 14xx thread (though the class 71 is easy to take apart). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 Maybe I recess them but have a small push through hole inside the cab to make removal easier? Just a thought 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I guess we are coming into the final countdown now. If you haven't already expressed an interest, please do so now and let's get this project over the line. Here is a reminder of how good these beasts looked in service. Wouldn't you just love one on your N Gauge layout? 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Wouldn't you just love one on your N Gauge layout? No, I want 2 which is what I ordered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 Hi everyone, The King Crowdfunding is going quite nicely at the moment, with more orders coming in every day, and the total is currently about 700 models. However, it seems that even with this burst of orders, we will not be successful by the close date. This leaves me 2 options, walk away and do it in a couple or more years when i have the monies, or pursue this with a view to getting the 1000+ models needed , funded. I'd rather not walk away and i'm very cognoscent of trying to get an EP at Warley, i'm going keep the date open for orders until the end of July, as the advertising seems to be working and bringing in sign ups. I'll be advertising the King at Perth next weekend to see if we can get some more enthusiasts to sign. This should just about give us enough time for the revised cad/cam and 1st EP launch at Warley I'll listen to any comments you may have either way one this, but i really do think we can do it! cheers Dave 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 So if everyone who has placed an order ordered one more we would be there. It's only money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Higgs Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Hi everyone, The King Crowdfunding is going quite nicely at the moment, with more orders coming in every day, and the total is currently about 700 models. However, it seems that even with this burst of orders, we will not be successful by the close date. This leaves me 2 options, walk away and do it in a couple or more years when i have the monies, or pursue this with a view to getting the 1000+ models needed , funded. I'd rather not walk away and i'm very cognoscent of trying to get an EP at Warley, i'm going keep the date open for orders until the end of July, as the advertising seems to be working and bringing in sign ups. I'll be advertising the King at Perth next weekend to see if we can get some more enthusiasts to sign. This should just about give us enough time for the revised cad/cam and 1st EP launch at Warley I'll listen to any comments you may have either way one this, but i really do think we can do it! cheers Dave I'd just carry on for now. If sales are stil coming in it should become obvious just how long it is going to take to reach the target. If it doesn't quite make it for Warley well never mind. Not worth stressing over that. Chris 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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