goldfish Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 12 hours ago, bruce palmer said: Re the prewar BL wagons ...great as far as Im concerned . Nearholmer, I think I have a bag of those autocouplers some where if you need some . Bruce I would be interested in half a dozen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 21 hours ago, GRASinBothell said: Of course, Ace has produced the Met/LT coaches since then, which is possibly the source of the design/tooling for the suburban coaches, with different artwork. That could be the answer! The recent "in sets" BR coaches have more one more compartment, and a shorter van section, in the brake coach than the C1 type (which have unusually large van sections), and that does indeed align with the Met coaches. I'd been trying to work out what tooling they were from. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nearholmer Posted October 8, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Ten minutes in the calming land of tinplate to take my mind off the weather-pandemic-drift-of-politics, i.e. to put my head under the duvet. The slightly tatty BL auto-coupler trucks look OK as a train of tatty old trucks, and they run well, which isn’t something you can say for all eighty year olds. Edited October 8, 2020 by Nearholmer 22 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sncf231e Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Even the music is deliberately old fashioned : Regards Fred 6 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacathedrale Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 This is the way to do it, right? Unfortunately my Schools had the bolt on the crosshead either break or ping off so is yet again, out of commision - but above shows the King Arthuer and the rake of four LBSCR coaches that the Terrier absolutely cannot shift 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, Lacathedrale said: This is the way to do it, right? You haven't run it under the settee for a tunnel. C'mon man - where's your standards??!! 1 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34006 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 4 hours ago, sncf231e said: Even the music is deliberately old fashioned : Regards Fred Looks like a cross between an LMS class 2 and a Claud to my eyes. atb Phil. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Lacathedrale said: rake of four LBSCR coaches that the Terrier absolutely cannot shift That is worth investigating further, because I reckon to get 12 axles of passenger stock hauled by an ETS Terrier. It is probably a function of excessive drag somewhere, most likely the crude axle-bearings that are a bit of an issue with ‘modern tinplate’ - old tinplate tended to use ‘knife edge’ bearings, a hole in a bit of tin, which are surprisingly low-drag, but a lot of modern stuff has cast axle-boxes In which the bearing-hole is sometimes Very poorly formed. Oiling the bearing can help a lot. Also look for excessive contact pressure on any spoons or finger-contacts used for lighting. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 Fred Brilliant! Garden is looking good too. Kevin 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Metropolitan H Posted October 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 hours ago, 34006 said: Looks like a cross between an LMS class 2 and a Claud to my eyes. atb Phil. I thought the number series was nearer that of the ex GCR "Directors"?? Regards Chris H 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRASinBothell Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I have a couple of those WJ Vintage/Raylo/ETS Terriers, and they pull a set of 4 Darstaed six-wheelers, with no problem, so I'd echo Nearholmer's words. Gordon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacathedrale Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Thanks, they are going around a 34" radius curve. I found them fairly tough to push around. Maybe the spoons are arranged for depressed 3-rail? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) I’ve found that with that generation of Darstaed six-wheelers manufacturing QC was distinctly lacking, so that it is necessary to do a bit of de-burring, fettling, and fiddling to improve performance, not just on axle-bearings but on the radius-arms on the Cleminson system, and other parts too. It’s also worth oiling the bearings and greasing the radius arms. Once sorted, they present no problem down to 24” radius curves. I only owned a LBSCR rake of six-wheelers very briefly, because as soon as I put them on the track there was an impressive display of sparks and flashes resulting from the wiring of the lighting being incorrect, causing a spectacular short circuit! A definite QC failing. When I took them back, I ended-up swapping them for LBSCR bogie coaches. I actually prefer the Ace six-wheelers, because they have a better radius-arm design, but Ace didn’t make them in Brighton colours. Edited October 12, 2020 by Nearholmer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34006 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 9 hours ago, Metropolitan H said: I thought the number series was nearer that of the ex GCR "Directors"?? Regards Chris H I knew Directors as Clauds.Spashers are different to 2Ps or Clauds,though. atb Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) Like all of the 1930s and earlier ‘generics’, it has small references to all sorts of different things, so that we can all see in it what we wish to see. Prince Charles originated in the 1927 Duke of York design, which was specifically for low-cost, high-volume production, and was then simplified (individual splashers changed to a combined splasher) to make Prolincess Elizabeth in 1932, and got new colours to become Prince Charles post-WW2. I quite like good generics, and they were certainly optimised to work well on tight curves. Edited October 12, 2020 by Nearholmer 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 Fiddling-around working out the detail baseboard joining and track-alignment for the vest-pocket vari-layout, which isn’t entirely successful as a way of distracting me from the doom-forecast on The World at One. 3 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) Back to Terriers and Darstaed six-wheelers. Here is such a loco with a rake of four, happily negotiating the 27” radius corner On my ‘bar flap’ section (hence the More than usually distracting background - the orange thing is s reflection of my shoulder, I think). This train always makes me think of the Hayling Branch, although that may have gone straight from four-wheelers to bogie coaches, so here Birlstone becomes the bay platform at Havant. Edited October 13, 2020 by Nearholmer 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RateTheFreight Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Love the black terrier, I have one too and it’s a very well made model. I just wish WJ Vintage/ETS put isolating switches on their locos as it makes operating ‘Old Albion’ a challenge if using them and other locos. Speaking of WJV, and apologies if slightly OT, did anyone else notice the newsletter article featuring a delightful ETS made prototype of the narrow gauge ‘Dolgoch’ of TR fame? I’ve expressed an interest as it would make a lovely set with the coaches and provide something different coarse scale wise (appreciating it was shown to run on standard 3 rail track). Greg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 Oh yes! I have a ‘skate’ made from a piece of 1.6mm ply to slide under the spoons when isolating the mildly-frustrating ETS locos. Mind you, old BL ones are the same, so I really need to add more isolating switches/sections. B636 is, of course, Fenchurch, and the plain black livery Is how she looked after coming into SR ownership when Newhaven Harbour Company was integrated into the SR (I think it was previously a wholly-owned subsidiary). She remained at Newhaven for years thereafter, so might be inappropriate elsewhere. I thought the ETS SR green ones had over-emphatic lining, even by coarse-scale standards, which is why I chose black. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 14, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Nearholmer said: Oh yes! I have a ‘skate’ made from a piece of 1.6mm ply to slide under the spoons when isolating the mildly-frustrating ETS locos. Mind you, old BL ones are the same, so I really need to add more isolating switches/sections. B636 is, of course, Fenchurch, and the plain black livery Is how she looked after coming into SR ownership when Newhaven Harbour Company was integrated into the SR (I think it was previously a wholly-owned subsidiary). She remained at Newhaven for years thereafter, so might be inappropriate elsewhere. I thought the ETS SR green ones had over-emphatic lining, even by coarse-scale standards, which is why I chose black. I remember when 72 had "Fenchurch" on the left-hand tank side and "Newhaven Harbour Company" on the right (starboard?). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 There’s a good selection of preservation era pictures here https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com/32636-lbscr-72-fenchurch-sr-b636-sr-2636-br-32636/ I remember NHCo livery and I think she may have been like that for the 100th birthday celebrations, although maybe with Fenchurch on both sides by then. Worrying to think that will be half a century ago come 2022! Hope to God that the plague has abated sufficiently to allow a proper 150th bash - definitely one I’d want to attend. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 14, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 14, 2020 "From 1950 until withdrawal in November 1963 32636 had the distinction of being the oldest locomotive in British Railway stock." Until withdrawal in November 1951, 22630, an ex-Midland Kirtley 700 Class 0-6-0 built by Dubs in March 1870, would, I believe, claim that distinction. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted October 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2020 I have a delightful Accucraft model of Dolgoch for 0 gauge track but rather too big and wide for an 0 gauge layout. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 I got confused about scale and gauge in that piece about an ETS tinplate Dolgoch, but it did look rather nice. Not for me though, because my problem is that I’ve ‘opened too many fronts’, rather that that I need to open more! Lurking in cupboards I have a fair bit of 45mm gauge garden railway gubbins, some scratch-built, some adapted LGB feldbahn, a small accumulation of Hornby Dublo 2-rail, and even a SM32 ‘diesel’ loco and a string of skips. One day, not today obviously, I really need to rationalise! 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted October 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nearholmer said: ......... One day, not today obviously, I really need to rationalise! Priceless. Don't we all Don 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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