SWT442 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 My replacement 68002 bodyshell arrived today. Very impressed with it all! Now to get it all back onto the chassis and back in service! Andy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted December 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2017 I’m off to Dapol tomorrow morning to swap mine over at the factory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegleg90 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Latest DCC on board locos from batch two seem to be taking their time.... Anybody heard anything ? Notice DCC supplies are out of the Class 68 decoders otherwise would have purchased a DCC ready model..... Asked Dapol on their forum and sounds like the decoders (non & sound) were delayed so early January for delivery now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) I’m off to Dapol tomorrow morning to swap mine over at the factory Jim, can you please ask at what stage the DCC on board class 68s are at please mate. Edited December 21, 2017 by martin_l_jones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Walker Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Interested to know if you have looked at the circuit board. The enamelled wire has gone and diodes on the halo circuits have been replaced by transistors. I have tried a Zimo 644D (without any modifications to the wiring) and it will not switch on the halos. Mike, I've recently purchased 68008 but only just fitted a decoder. I've managed to get an ESU Lokpilot Standard 53614 MTC21 and everything works with no modifications to the circuit board. F0 switches front head lights/front tail lights (with reversing) F1 switches on the rear head lights, F2 the rear tail lights, F5 the front halo lights and F6 the rear halo lights. The cab lights come on with F0/F1 and front headlights. Hope that helps you and others re the wiring and what works with this circuit board. Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Jim, can you please ask at what stage the DCC on board class 68s are at please mate. Probably too late now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Probably too late now! Yes just realised the date of the post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2017 Probably too late now! Your right, went this morning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike066 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Mike, I've recently purchased 68008 but only just fitted a decoder. I've managed to get an ESU Lokpilot Standard 53614 MTC21 and everything works with no modifications to the circuit board. F0 switches front head lights/front tail lights (with reversing) F1 switches on the rear head lights, F2 the rear tail lights, F5 the front halo lights and F6 the rear halo lights. The cab lights come on with F0/F1 and front headlights. Hope that helps you and others re the wiring and what works with this circuit board. Tony. Tony, thanks for your reply. I think that the transistors are there to switch on the halos via logic outputs from the decoder, and that the pcb is wired for ESU decoders such as yours or the Loksound V4. A Zimo 644D will only drive the halos if the transistors are bypassed as described by John Gymer of YouChoos. Not sure I want to go this route; your experience is pointing me to ESU! Anyone from Dapol care to comment! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Tony, thanks for your reply. I think that the transistors are there to switch on the halos via logic outputs from the decoder, and that the pcb is wired for ESU decoders such as yours or the Loksound V4. A Zimo 644D will only drive the halos if the transistors are bypassed as described by John Gymer of YouChoos. Not sure I want to go this route; your experience is pointing me to ESU! Anyone from Dapol care to comment! The ZIMO mx644D has standard function outputs for the 5th and 6th outputs, the mx644C is the alternative version with logic outputs for the 5th and 6th outputs that is required for the Dapol 68.The Dapol instructions still recomend the incorrect mx644D as they did on the first releases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 The ZIMO mx644D has standard function outputs for the 5th and 6th outputs, the mx644C is the alternative version with logic outputs for the 5th and 6th outputs that is required for the Dapol 68. The Dapol instructions still recomend the incorrect mx644D as they did on the first releases. At least the MX644D can be converted to MX644C by a simple bit of CV programming. That's not an excuse for Dapol getting it wrong, but it does mean that their customers aren't wasting their money by buying Zimo MX644D decoders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 At least the MX644D can be converted to MX644C by a simple bit of CV programming. That's not an excuse for Dapol getting it wrong, but it does mean that their customers aren't wasting their money by buying Zimo MX644D decoders. I don't think it can, the mx634 is the only one can be converted between C and D by writing to cv8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegleg90 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Merry Christmas All, Received 68008 Avenger today from my lovely parents, looks really great with the brake discs and the crisp DRS branding, went to run it in on a DCC concepts rolling road and it seems quite noisy/rough running it in in either direction compered to my first batch 68's, any suggestions why this is or send it back? Only a very tiny corner of yellow rubbed off but think i can live with that. Many thanks Ali Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage Tim Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) Merry Christmas All, Received 68008 Avenger today from my lovely parents, looks really great with the brake discs and the crisp DRS branding, went to run it in on a DCC concepts rolling road and it seems quite noisy/rough running it in in either direction compered to my first batch 68's, any suggestions why this is or send it back? Only a very tiny corner of yellow rubbed off but think i can live with that. Many thanks Ali Hi Ali, when I ordered my first 68, from the first batch, mine was also a noisy/rough runner (as well as missing buffer parts but that's another story..) and as I was slightly terrified about taking it apart, tampering and invalidating the warranty, I sent it to Dapol to be repaired as recommended by my retailer. It turned out that the motor was slightly unseated and simply seating it correctly solved the problem, an easy fix for Dapol! If you are a braver soul than me it may be worth just checking the motor seating as could be a quick fix. Hope you get your model working properly and let us know the results! Edited December 26, 2017 by Heritage Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike066 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 At least the MX644D can be converted to MX644C by a simple bit of CV programming. That's not an excuse for Dapol getting it wrong, but it does mean that their customers aren't wasting their money by buying Zimo MX644D decoders. Grateful,if you could let me know how to program the MX644D to convert it to an MX644C Thanks Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Grateful,if you could let me know how to program the MX644D to convert it to an MX644C Thanks Mike Markw may be correct as I was confusing the MX644 with the MX634. With the MX634, programming 3 into CV8 gives the C, or 4 into CV8 gives the D version. You could try this with the MX644 but it may not work. Apologies for any confusion I may have caused. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielson's shay no 3 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 So what liveries will we see in the next batch of 68s do you think ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejab95 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 So what liveries will we see in the next batch of 68s do you think ? I'd certainly expect the DRS plain Blue and possibly a TPE livery to appear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted January 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 2, 2018 I'd certainly expect the DRS plain Blue and possibly a TPE livery to appear. Will all depend upon what licenses can be obtained by Dapol. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markwalker67 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) The TPE livery class 68 and Drs Plain blue class 68 will be out at the end of the year when i spoke to Dapol at Warley this is what then said. Edited January 3, 2018 by Markwalker67 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_H Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Is the plain blue a permanent livery or temporary whilst the TPE starts up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davepallant Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 The TPE livery class 68 and Drs Plain blue class 68 will be out at the end of the year when i spoke to Dapol at Warley this is what then said. Which will then beg the question of who might do Mark 5As and Driving Trailers to go with the TPE 68! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
time for a brew Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Dapol have announced starting work on factory fitting the class 68 and have shown a glimpse of their new QC department on their forum. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEOEng03 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Hi, Does anyone have pictures of the first and second batch chassis please. I would like to see if there are any differences between the two of them. I recently sold a 68 on ebay and it has been returned as not working in DCC. However, the condition of the chassis gives me some cause for concern - given that it was brand new and test run on DC and DCC only. See picture IMG_20180117_124702287_HDR by Bryn Jones, on Flickr There is considerable marking on it, which I am convinced wasn't there when sold. IMG_20180117_124744437 by Bryn Jones, on Flickr and this white residue, which suggests it is older than the one I had purchased! IMG_20180117_124650049 by Bryn Jones, on Flickr Body and box are the originals (avenger), but I am not so sure re the chassis. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy crockett Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 The chassis looks like the latest release in that it does not have the thin extra copper wires the early ones had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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