RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted February 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2017 Did you see me? 66557 on 4m20? 04 February 2017 North Fen Drove 66557 on 4M20, 10:14, Felixstowe North F.L.T. - Lawley Street F.L.T. (16:14) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted February 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2017 Was your sandwich nice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted February 5, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 5, 2017 Something quite telling is how prominent the specific fuel consumption data is for engines in promotional materials. Engine manufacturers like MAN, Wartsila, Rolls Royce put the fuel figures and graphs front and centre as its one of their biggest selling points. EMD aren't really noted for highlighting this data. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted February 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2017 66s are terrible on fuel. 57s aren't great either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM47079 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Was your sandwich nice?Totally caught munching. Fantastic picture thanks very much for sharing it. The daytime headlight didn't work which was why I was in night mode 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted February 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2017 Totally caught munching. Fantastic picture thanks very much for sharing it. The daytime headlight didn't work which was why I was in night mode I hadn't noticed the night headlight! With the 68s we have what amounts to main and dipped beam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM47079 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Some of the 66s have that now. I think spares for the old type are running out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted February 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 6, 2017 Some of the Anglia blokes don't like the new lights and have complained. You should have a route learning day with us on the 68s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM47079 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I would love to.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM47079 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 No not now, heavy haul do that turn, our guys go via the joint line to Doncaster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted August 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2018 WNXX is reporting that all FL 70s are sidelined because of a short term lull in traffic. They had got down to only 6 in traffic anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted August 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2018 WNXX is reporting that all FL 70s are sidelined because of a short term lull in traffic. They had got down to only 6 in traffic anyway. As I put in another thread, I wonder if Freightliner have pulled the plug on the Class 70 experience as having spoken to several of their staff, they’ve never given the reliability or savings promised. The upside is that their on “power by the hour” contracts, so Freightliner doesn’t have to pay for a valuable and expensive asset to just be sitting idle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted August 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2018 As I put in another thread, I wonder if Freightliner have pulled the plug on the Class 70 experience as having spoken to several of their staff, they’ve never given the reliability or savings promised. The upside is that their on “power by the hour” contracts, so Freightliner doesn’t have to pay for a valuable and expensive asset to just be sitting idle. Sorry - just saw your other thread. I guess it's down to GE and FL to sort out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM47079 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 To be fair it’s easier to concentrate on one type of traction. There is a bit of a lull in traffic at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWSHARPE1 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 GE work on promises not actualities. They are a business, which work on the quality of their name in the USA, which may work in the USA but should be challenged everywhere else. They buy companies then de-man them and make people unit costs and not valued people. As a result experienced and valued people leave resulting in less experienced people doing the work. They also supply the money for leasing through their finance making things look advantageous. You don't talk about a GE job you talk about a Rolls Royce job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 An article in Rail for the Class 70s, many stored at Leeds Midland Road depot, the article echoes the forum, the class 70 is not popular with drivers who prefer a 66 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 There were 2 at Ipswich Station early on Tuesday morning - 001 & 002 - which took me a bit by surprise as I hadn't seen one for a while. One moved off around 08.30 to head a Felixstowe bound train in the upper yard, whilst the other was shunting the fuel tanker train in the station sidings when I left for Norwich at 08.45. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted December 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Johann Marsbar said: There were 2 at Ipswich Station early on Tuesday morning - 001 & 002 - which took me a bit by surprise as I hadn't seen one for a while. One moved off around 08.30 to head a Felixstowe bound train in the upper yard, whilst the other was shunting the fuel tanker train in the station sidings when I left for Norwich at 08.45. 70001 worked the Ipswich / Lindsey tanks (and back) on Tuesday - causing a lot of froth on the local railway groups. Edited December 14, 2019 by beast66606 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted December 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2019 16 hours ago, Pandora said: An article in Rail for the Class 70s, many stored at Leeds Midland Road depot, the article echoes the forum, the class 70 is not popular with drivers who prefer a 66 I must be an exception to the rule, give me a 70 over a 66 any day of the week! A cracking loco power wise, a few bits are odd/annoying but as long as you get on them regularly you get used to them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 hour ago, big jim said: I must be an exception to the rule, give me a 70 over a 66 any day of the week! A cracking loco power wise, a few bits are odd/annoying but as long as you get on them regularly you get used to them Passed out on them at Lawley Street a few weeks ago and haven't been on one yet, we've got laminated 'go to guides' to refer to if we get befuddled...! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted December 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2019 18 hours ago, Pandora said: An article in Rail for the Class 70s, many stored at Leeds Midland Road depot, the article echoes the forum, the class 70 is not popular with drivers who prefer a 66 There are currently 7 stored at Midland Road, out of a Freightliner fleet of 20. For those interested, the stored examples currently comprise; 70004/09*/13/16-19 * the longest stored - since 01/17 From my observations they remain pretty regular performers on intermodal workings between Leeds FLT and Southampton Maritime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted December 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2019 Nidge: I can guarantee you will change ends loads of times and forget to flick the cab active switch out and have to do the walk of shame to the rear cab again! One if the useful bits of info I got across while training drivers on them is don’t worry when the ‘alarm’ bell goes off it’s not normally telling you of a problem but it’s letting you know the loco is about to do something (ie Auto shut down) The bell will also go off if you ‘feather the brake’ too much, doing that can stop the dynamic brake coming in which is what it’s warning you of, you are relying purely on the train brakes slowing you, it will come up as a message on the bottom of the screen too (dynamic brake failure or words to that effect), if safe simply take the brake off and wait 5-10 seconds before reapplying and the dynamic brake ‘should’ come back Were you shown ‘plug mode’ on them, are you allowed to use it? (plug mode uses the dynamic brake at slow speeds, below 10mph, to keep you at a set speed downhill, handy in ballast drops!) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steadfast Posted December 14, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2019 70001 passed through Westbury one evening this week just gone by, think it was Thursday, Southampton bound ex Wentloog. First time I've seen a 70 on that working. Doesn't the bell go off when you switch cabs too? Seems to ring a heck of a lot! Is it just my cackhanded clumsiness, or does anyone else find 70s awkward to get on and off of? Jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 14/12/2019 at 12:31, big jim said: Nidge: I can guarantee you will change ends loads of times and forget to flick the cab active switch out and have to do the walk of shame to the rear cab again! One if the useful bits of info I got across while training drivers on them is don’t worry when the ‘alarm’ bell goes off it’s not normally telling you of a problem but it’s letting you know the loco is about to do something (ie Auto shut down) The bell will also go off if you ‘feather the brake’ too much, doing that can stop the dynamic brake coming in which is what it’s warning you of, you are relying purely on the train brakes slowing you, it will come up as a message on the bottom of the screen too (dynamic brake failure or words to that effect), if safe simply take the brake off and wait 5-10 seconds before reapplying and the dynamic brake ‘should’ come back Were you shown ‘plug mode’ on them, are you allowed to use it? (plug mode uses the dynamic brake at slow speeds, below 10mph, to keep you at a set speed downhill, handy in ballast drops!) Cheers Jim, all duly noted! We were told about the 'plug mode' thingy but thanks for reminding me. I'll not get on one till next year now, I've only got one job this week then I'm annual leave over Christmas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold daveyb Posted January 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 30/09/2019 at 15:43, DWSHARPE1 said: GE work on promises not actualities. They are a business, which work on the quality of their name in the USA, which may work in the USA but should be challenged everywhere else. They buy companies then de-man them and make people unit costs and not valued people. As a result experienced and valued people leave resulting in less experienced people doing the work. They also supply the money for leasing through their finance making things look advantageous. You don't talk about a GE job you talk about a Rolls Royce job. Interesting view... GE have overtaken EMD in production terms causing GM to sell the EMD/GMD operations (to Caterpillar Progress Rail). UP, NS, BNSF, CP, CN, CSX, etc seem to be content with their many thousands of them over the last 20-30 years. Their capital plans seem attractive to leasers... I don't see the issue; better to use a company that can stay afloat than one that has busted their finance house twice (GMAC). GE have done some acquisition work and moved production but that is the modern world... Look at the car industry or Boeing or Dyson. It may be that the GE HH locos to UK requirements (70s) have not fulfilled their promise as easily as EMD managed to squeeze an SD60 into a 66 and perform. However, I suspect the store/use/store/use cycle is carefully matched to flows, power requirements, lease costs, storage cost and maintenance costs. Running a rail company is far more than just running trains in this age. You don't talk about a Rolls Royce job if you're anything to do with a Trent based aircraft or a BMW car... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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