ejstubbs Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 What will Gasley do? http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/20953211/toro-rosso-prematurely-confirmed-pierre-gasly-us-grand-prix WHOOPS From that article: Gasly says he does not mind which scenario ends up happening as he sees benefits in both. "The two options are exciting for me. If I go to Super Formula, fight for the title and come back to Mexico and finish the season with Toro Rosso that would be great, because a title is a title. But if I can go to Austin and race with Toro Rosso and end the season with them I will not complain because it is a fantastic opportunity." The young man seems to have a sensible attitude. (He'll never get far in F1, then...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 From that article: Gasly says he does not mind which scenario ends up happening as he sees benefits in both. "The two options are exciting for me. If I go to Super Formula, fight for the title and come back to Mexico and finish the season with Toro Rosso that would be great, because a title is a title. But if I can go to Austin and race with Toro Rosso and end the season with them I will not complain because it is a fantastic opportunity." The young man seems to have a sensible attitude. (He'll never get far in F1, then...) After a couple of gaffs with the media (I seem to recall he implied he would replace Kvyat for this season when asked last year) I would imagine anything he says nowgoes through the Helmut Marko/Red Bull PR machine.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted October 9, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 9, 2017 Nice dilemma to have! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 If I were him I'd go fight for a title if he's a genuine contender. Chances are he'll never get that chance in F1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted October 9, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2017 If I were him I'd go fight for a title if he's a genuine contender. Chances are he'll never get that chance in F1. Most of them end up in DTM or Formula E if they can't crack it in F1 or do what some of them done in the past go to the states for Indy Car racing drivers like Mark Brundell, Mario Andretti have made a fortune doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Brit70053 Posted October 10, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2017 Seems I should have made it clear I don't have any 'hatred' for Vettel or any other F1 driver for that matter, but there is just that something more than ruthless determination with him I find difficult to accept. Skill and self confidence are obvious essentials, together with a top car package, but Vettel carries an attitude of entitlement to win regardless of consequences of his actions to others, which is certainly off putting to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Dutch GP under consideration: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-begins-talks-to-hold-dutch-street-race-963828/ Some comments are funny, some are absurd. But if LM wants to capitalise on Max' success, they'd better not wait too long for putting this race on the agenda. Probably like 2019 or even next year already. At this rate will we be having mid week grand prix to fit them all in.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blue Streak Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Most of them end up in DTM or Formula E if they can't crack it in F1 or do what some of them done in the past go to the states for Indy Car racing drivers like Mark Brundell, Mario Andretti have made a fortune doing that. Crikey, you blokes would be hard taskmasters. If winning the world championship (Mario in 1978) isn't "cracking it in F1" I don't know what is ? (Just joking mate, I know what you mean). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 At this rate will we be having mid week grand prix to fit them all in.... Christmas Day is still free! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 What will Gasley do? http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/20953211/toro-rosso-prematurely-confirmed-pierre-gasly-us-grand-prix WHOOPS Interesting that the list of drivers who could take Gasly's place doesn't include Palmer.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 At this rate will we be having mid week grand prix to fit them all in.... Not entirely necessarily. If the gap gets any wider between the fastest and the slowest teams, they could start the next race whilst the backmarkers are finishing the last one? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Not entirely necessarily. If the gap gets any wider between the fastest and the slowest teams, they could start the next race whilst the backmarkers are finishing the last one? Though of course in reality once the winner sees the flag, all drivers just finish the lap they're on. Hence Mike Hawthorn letting Fangio unlap himself at the 1958 French Grand Prix so the great man could complete his final race. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 As to slotting all the races in, obviously there's a question mark over the future of the British Grand Prix, and maybe now also the Spanish one.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal.n Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 As to slotting all the races in, obviously there's a question mark over the future of the British Grand Prix, and maybe now also the Spanish one.... If there isn't a race at Silverstone, there will be one in London. F1 hasn't traditionally strayed away controversial races: The first Russian GP was held months after the state annexed Crimea in 2014 amid calls to call off the race, the 2013 Bahrain GP was very nearly cancelled after widespread human rights infringements in the country and it went behind the 'Iron Curtain' to the Hungaroring in 1986. If the region is still relatively stable I think we will see pre-season testing there and a race next year. Remember we are meant to be getting a French and German GP back this year as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 If there isn't a race at Silverstone, there will be one in London. F1 hasn't traditionally strayed away controversial races: The first Russian GP was held months after the state annexed Crimea in 2014 amid calls to call off the race, the 2013 Bahrain GP was very nearly cancelled after widespread human rights infringements in the country and it went behind the 'Iron Curtain' to the Hungaroring in 1986. If the region is still relatively stable I think we will see pre-season testing there and a race next year. Remember we are meant to be getting a French and German GP back this year as well. Good;point. But that was while Ecclebum was in charge and did not give a fig. Not sure how the new, US owners will play these sorts of situations if or probably when their ManBaby decides it is not such a good idea. He is testing out his testosterone already on the NFL. I think the PyongYang GP could be in some doubt now, despite their offer to make the cars go further and faster. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 11, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2017 Anent Silverstone, I see the owning body, the 850-member BRDC, is about to elect a new president, Derek Warwick having stepped down. As we know, Silverstone has been in poor financial condition for some time, so the new president has some way to make up. Thus current favourite 84-y-o Paddy Hopkirk, former mini-driving rally ace, no direct F1 connection, seems such a sensible choice...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted October 11, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2017 Anent Silverstone, I see the owning body, the 850-member BRDC, is about to elect a new president, Derek Warwick having stepped down. As we know, Silverstone has been in poor financial condition for some time, so the new president has some way to make up. Thus current favourite 84-y-o Paddy Hopkirk, former mini-driving rally ace, no direct F1 connection, seems such a sensible choice...... You might be right Ian Paddy even at his age still has a bit of go in him a real winner all the past presidents have all been wet rags and second rate drivers (and that includes Jackie Stewart) just figure heads with no business brains. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blue Streak Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I can't actually believe that there may be a time when there is no British Grand Prix. Despite what the Italians may think, GB is at the Heart of F1 and even when we face reality and see the commercialised cash grab that F1 has become, to remove the British GP from the calendar altogether will expose it for all to see. Ripping away the last remnants of any sporting pretence and be seen to be turning it's back and taking a huge dump on it's proud history. The British GP must stay and that's coming from a Dinky Di Aussie. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted October 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2017 I can't actually believe that there may be a time when there is no British Grand Prix. Despite what the Italians may think, GB is at the Heart of F1 and even when we face reality and see the commercialised cash grab that F1 has become, to remove the British GP from the calendar altogether will expose it for all to see. Ripping away the last remnants of any sporting pretence and be seen to be turning it's back and taking a huge dump on it's proud history. The British GP must stay and that's coming from a Dinky Di Aussie. I could it was run by inept people, posers and the like most of them would put their foot in their mouth when they said anything like the time Jackie Stewart said Paul De Resta should be driving for Ferrari. Lets hope all the old farts have been ousted and the BRDC can move on but I doubt it I'm sure some of the "Old Has Been's" will put the mocca's on it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blue Streak Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) Jackie Stewart said Paul De Resta should be driving for Ferrari. Perhaps it's a Scottish pride thing. On a completely separate ( but slightly related ) note. Does anyone else remember when Enzo Ferrari would not let Stewart test a Ferrari for a Magazine (I think somewhen in the 80's) and simply stated - "If a Ferrari was not good enough for Jackie Stewart to drive in 1969, why should I wish to let him drive one now !! " Quite obviously a dig at Stewart's decision to drive for Ken Tyrrell back in the day over the Enzo offer. I thinks that's what the young folk call a "Smack Down" !!! Edit - TBH I think history shows that Stewart's decision to go with Ken was quite a sound one . Edited October 12, 2017 by The Blue Streak 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted October 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2017 Stewart was never any good it was the car design of the day and the cheating that won him the championships just like that Vettel thing, second rate David Clothturd and Stirling Moss as well he never won much unless his butt was in a Ferrari. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejstubbs Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Not quite understanding some of the comments about Jackie Stewart on here. (I'm wondering whether my irony meter might be broken.) I'll just leave this for people to reflect on: http://en.espn.co.uk/f1/motorsport/story/56647.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blue Streak Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) (I'm wondering whether my irony meter might be broken.) It might just need adjusting. We all know what Stewart did for F1 especially in terms of making a stand on safety issues and for that alone He needs to be applauded. But it certainly doesn't make him immune from people making a comment. Not everyone is a fan of everything He ever did. I thought the comments made by Ferrari in the '80s had a wonderful sense of irony about them. I am sorry if they caused any offence. Edited October 14, 2017 by The Blue Streak 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Stewart was never any good it was the car design of the day and the cheating that won him the championships just like that Vettel thing, second rate David Clothturd and Stirling Moss as well he never won much unless his butt was in a Ferrari. A bit previous about Coulthard? He came 2nd and 3rd in two world championships in a McLaren in seasons where the redfellas dominated. He also gave Red Bull their first podium, when their car was less than competitive, I often felt frustrated when DC was racing, but even so. Justify please. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Notwithstanding his otherwise impeccable record, wasn’t DC the only driver to have an “off” on a formation lap? A crash at Monza in 1995. He had qualified in pole, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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