DonnyRailMan Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 My LNER Peppercorn A1 War Time Black this project as been planned for a while and finally came to reality . Yes I know LNER Peppercorns A1s where not around in WW II hence the name Phoenix, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Turpin Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Yes I know LNER Peppercorns A1s where not around in WW I Ahem, no, neither was the LNER. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted December 28, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 28, 2016 Very nice Donny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted December 29, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2016 Would not the tender just be N E rather than LNER if in wartime black, also it might be the camera ( they certainly play tricks) but the spacing between the N and E looks a bit large. Must admit I like stuff in black, especially as I don't have to line them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Clearwater Posted December 29, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2016 Would not the tender just be N E rather than LNER if in wartime black, also it might be the camera ( they certainly play tricks) but the spacing between the N and E looks a bit large. Must admit I like stuff in black, especially as I don't have to line them I'd wondered on it being just NE too. I note Hornby 's latest A4 is black with LNER on the tender. They've never got any details wrong have they? http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/lner-4-6-2-sir-murrough-wilson-a4-class-wartime-black.html David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bernard Lamb Posted December 29, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 29, 2016 In 1941 the LNER started to paint the A4s black with LNER on the tender. In July 1942 this was changed to just NE. Obviously it would be time before any changes were made to an individual machine. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyRailMan Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 Phoenix LNER 3136 is just a creation I wanted to see what a Peppercorn A1 would look like in War Time black livery (WW I I ). And also with her carrying the great font of L N E R on the tender as well call it poetic licence because it is my locomotive. I am not offended at all if some do not like the end result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midland Mole Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Phoenix LNER 3136 is just a creation I wanted to see what a Peppercorn A1 would look like in War Time black livery (WW I I ). And also with her carrying the great font of L N E R on the tender as well call it poetic licence because it is my locomotive. I am not offended at all if some do not like the end result. I could not agree more. All that ever really matters is what you think of it. Personally, I think it looks great...a very interesting idea. - Alex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyRailMan Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 I could not agree more. All that ever really matters is what you think of it. Personally, I think it looks great...a very interesting idea. - Alex Thank you Alex, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee74clarke Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Thank you Alex, Good Afternoon Donny, I like it, it looks a quite purposeful livery on that A1. To be honest, I like all sorts of fictitious liveries and locos really. I have got a Hornby P2 and an old kit built streamlined P2 awaiting fictitious BR green application and some chassis awaiting conversion into proposed 4-8-2 express loco with A4 front end. When I get around to it will be another matter. On the A1 front, I have got a Bachmann apple green job where I want to swap British Railways lettering on the tender for LNER and maybe streamlined front end,Ike the original Peppercorn plans. Cheers Lee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 29, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2016 Phoenix LNER 3136 is just a creation I wanted to see what a Peppercorn A1 would look like in War Time black livery (WW I I ). And also with her carrying the great font of L N E R on the tender as well call it poetic licence because it is my locomotive. I am not offended at all if some do not like the end result. You mean you didn't know about the 'Top Secret' loco that Peppercorn built for the SSR (Strategic Scientific Reserve)? The one that was the basis for his A1 class? And was called Phoenix? Sadly the locomotive was vaporized by a Hydra super-weapon - sometime in March 1945 at still classified location in East Germany... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I always thinking locos look really smart in wartime black Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Godfrey Glyn Posted December 29, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2016 I always thinking locos look really smart in wartime black So a wartime black Merchant Navy in 2017? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted December 29, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2016 I always thinking locos look really smart in wartime black When fresh out of the paint shop they did.Trouble is it was quickly covered by coats of grime..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 29, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2016 When fresh out of the paint shop they did.Trouble is it was quickly covered by coats of grime..... And quite possibly bullet holes from enemy aircraft... Or in the case of a loco I've just finished (see the Best Ever Thread shortly) survived a near miss from a V1 Flying Bomb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Yeah all my black locos are covered in grime, well, soot mainly, but I like it, the sooty grey brings out a lot of the detail that is lost in the black paint work and brings the model to life if a black merchant navy is announced I think I shall swap my preorder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyRailMan Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 Good Afternoon Donny, I like it, it looks a quite purposeful livery on that A1. Glad you like it Lee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium BR60103 Posted December 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 30, 2016 Was the black livery applied to everything or just as an economy measure as repainting was necessary? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted December 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 30, 2016 Repainting was done on an "as-required" basis. Unlined Black was used as the cheapest method - in terms of cost but also, importantly, labour. Most colours required the importation of materials from abroad, which would tie up ships that would otherwise be bringing food, fuel and weapons to the UK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyRailMan Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 Repainting was done on an "as-required" basis. Unlined Black was used as the cheapest method - in terms of cost but also, importantly, labour. Most colours required the importation of materials from abroad, which would tie up ships that would otherwise be bringing food, fuel and weapons to the UK. The Wartime black WW II A4 Peregain I had N R put on tender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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