Fat Controller Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 I've seen the white boxes used for the chalked 'cut' number applied in the reception sidings at hump yards. By the late 1960s, most freight stock was acquiring small yellow, self-adhesive , labels which gave both maximum speed and brake force (for fitted wagons) for 'Empty', 'Light', 'Medium' and 'Heavy' loads. This would have superceded the earlier, painted, markings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 Courtesy of Pete Insole, the following image has been pointed in my direction: https://www.flickr.com/photos/125096403@N08/15884436063/in/album-72157650355865130/ Grey with red letters. Who'd have thought? Adam 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Sadly black and white but apparently Charringtons liveried hoppers in 1960. b016 63691 (Clipstone east junction) circa 1960 by Derek Wilson, on Flickr P 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 (edited) I remember the trip working of Charringtons coal hoppers from Colchester North Yard to their Hythe coal Depot, usually hauled by a class 08. The depot used winches to move the hoppers into position so the 08 could return to Colchester North with the empties or light engine. One night in the late 1980s I was working at a local rollerskating rink called the Triangle which was on the Moorside Industrial Estate within the Triangle of lines between Colchester and Clacton, East Gates Junction and St Botolphs, and St Botolphs and Hythe Junction when a class 08 trundled past heading from St Botolphs towards Hythe.The tracks were right behind me. It was dark, and when the 08 reached the diamond crossing on the Mainline to Clacton there was a crashing sound, the tail lights on the 08 lifted and fell a few times, and blokes with torches climbed down from the cab and started walking round the loco. I left at that point so I'm not sure what actually happened, but my guess would be that it was headed for Charringtons and it came off the road. Maybe it had been sent onto the St Botolphs Triangle to clear the Mainline for a passenger train. Edited November 20, 2016 by Baby Deltic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hughes Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 A little OTT, but can anyone say what the livery was on Charrington's road delivery wagons (both horse-drawn and mechanical)? TIA! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 A little OTT, but can anyone say what the livery was on Charrington's road delivery wagons (both horse-drawn and mechanical)? TIA! Here's their livery in 1974:- https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=charringtons+coal&espv=2&biw=1600&bih=780&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiMs4mhhrzQAhXBvRoKHagFD_gQsAQIRg#imgrc=URDCjEDUeiKoaM%3A and slightly earlier:- https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8049/8368898606_aaf685abe1_z.jpg 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hughes Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Here's their livery in 1974:- https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=charringtons+coal&espv=2&biw=1600&bih=780&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiMs4mhhrzQAhXBvRoKHagFD_gQsAQIRg#imgrc=URDCjEDUeiKoaM%3A and slightly earlier:- https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8049/8368898606_aaf685abe1_z.jpg Many thanks - I presume that the coat of arms is as coal suppliers to her maj, or similar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share Posted November 26, 2016 Many thanks - I presume that the coat of arms is as coal suppliers to her maj, or similar? Yup - these were royal warrant markings: I've got an old copy of Vintage Roadscene showing these very clearly, albeit in black and white. A sample of these same photos, part of the Chris Hodge Truck photos collection can be found here: https://chrishodgetrucks.co.uk/gallery/Truck-Archive/Latest (though a bit of CTRL + F will be needed to find them). Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hughes Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Yup - these were royal warrant markings: I've got an old copy of Vintage Roadscene showing these very clearly, albeit in black and white. A sample of these same photos, part of the Chris Hodge Truck photos collection can be found here: https://chrishodgetrucks.co.uk/gallery/Truck-Archive/Latest (though a bit of CTRL + F will be needed to find them). Adam Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 And here's another, slightly clearer and in colour: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351952195370?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 And here's another, slightly clearer and in colour: Good find. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBill Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 And here's another, slightly clearer and in colour: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351952195370?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Adam Great shot, any idea where? 80137 was a Southern loco for most of its life: http://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=locodata&type=S&id=80137&loco=80137 Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 Great shot, any idea where? 80137 was a Southern loco for most of its life: http://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=locodata&type=S&id=80137&loco=80137 Bill No idea, sorry! Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deedee Starr Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I remember seeing the Charringtons hoppers in the north of England when I was young. The top colour is a sort of duck-egg green under red lettering, not grey. Compare the hopper in Peter Insoles picture. The roof of the loco is grey with weathering, the hopper is not grey. I have been looking for a decent colour picture for ages and have never found one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacathedrale Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 In Purley there was a Charringtons siding, I gather there would have been an transitionary point between the use of 16T minerals, these hoppers, and the HEA Speedlink Coal Network wagons that ran until its closure in the 90's ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 In Purley there was a Charringtons siding, I gather there would have been an transitionary point between the use of 16T minerals, these hoppers, and the HEA Speedlink Coal Network wagons that ran until its closure in the 90's ? The hoppers were introduced from about 1963 onwards, at about the same time as the 'House Coal Concentration' vac-fitted hoppers were coming out. Both types were to be seen in the trains to Tolworth and Chessington Coal Concentration depots, which I used to see when staying at my uncle's flat near Malden Manor station- they generally came from the anthracite pits around my hometown, or the various 'smokeless' fuel plants around the country. I'm not sure if Purley had facilities to receive them, though; at the very least, a discharge pit and conveyor belt to a stocking area would be required, as the bottoms of the hoppers were much closer to the ground than those of the Brett hoppers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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