sncf231e Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Recently at a swap-meet I found this new old stock Triang train set RS29 from 1963 with B12 4-6-0 locomotive and 2 coaches. I made a video presentation of it: https://youtu.be/YR5Oplr9CjE Regards Fred 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sncf231e Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Yes, I oiled the engine, but did not use the oil from the set. I left the Triang oil bottle unopened. Regards Fred 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium BR60103 Posted January 10, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2018 Yes, I oiled the engine, but did not use the oil from the set. I left the Triang oil bottle unopened. Regards Fred I found a half-dozen original oil bottles a long time ago. I opened one, but the rest are still sitting there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 'Envy' button required! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted January 10, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2018 Tri-ang Princess locomotive and Tri-ang 3F at Bordesley Station on British Railways Western Region near Birmingham Football Club. Tri-ang made over 720,000 black Princess locomotives which is probably the largest production run of any locomotive in the United Kingdom. Always strange that the 3F was a poor seller & was only in the catalogue for a few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Fleece 30 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) Always strange that the 3F was a poor seller & was only in the catalogue for a few years. What do you class as a few years Kevin? This loco was originally produced with the first open bar and hook coupling which must put it into the 50's era before being fitted with the standard "proper" Tri-ang coupling and was still around I think in the 70's in maroon as in "The Midlander" set. It may have been taken out during the 60's I guess. Notice the maroon one has metal tyred tender wheels to help date it. Photos taken from the Tri-ang website. Garry Edited January 10, 2018 by Golden Fleece 30 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 The 1970s motorised tenders could have provided that, but it was Airfix, not Hornby (as it was by then) that provided the classic goods 4F. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT3 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 How interesting, just picked up a nice 3f with mk2 couplings and a dock shunter. Triang Hornby book says mk3s were introduced in 1959 so both these must come from 1958 when they were both released. Well i guess some of us find that interesting!!! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT3 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) What do you class as a few years Kevin? This loco was originally produced with the first open bar and hook coupling which must put it into the 50's era before being fitted with the standard "proper" Tri-ang coupling and was still around I think in the 70's in maroon as in "The Midlander" set. It may have been taken out during the 60's I guess. Notice the maroon one has metal tyred tender wheels to help date it. Photos taken from the Tri-ang website. Garry I have to say that maroon 3f does have flanged middle drivers so I think somone has been modifying it, 3F was introduced in 58, in 65 was factory weathered, probably a first by a manufacturer, and 66 in midland livery, lasted until at least 1968 so not a bad run for a model. Even more interesting, apparently it was released as 43620 in BR maroon with late crest in 66/7 but never seen one like that. Edited January 10, 2018 by TT3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppercap Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) I have to say that maroon 3f does have flanged middle drivers so I think somone has been modifying it, 3F was introduced in 58, in 65 was factory weathered, probably a first by a manufacturer, and 66 in midland livery, lasted until at least 1968 so not a bad run for a model. The wheels look like those on the chassis of the later Jinty, so it's probably been re-chassied or re-wheeled from one. Edited January 10, 2018 by Coppercap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted January 10, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2018 What do you class as a few years Kevin? This loco was originally produced with the first open bar and hook coupling which must put it into the 50's era before being fitted with the standard "proper" Tri-ang coupling and was still around I think in the 70's in maroon as in "The Midlander" set. It may have been taken out during the 60's I guess. Notice the maroon one has metal tyred tender wheels to help date it. Photos taken from the Tri-ang website. Garry Based on that, the other 2 LMS locos, Princess & Jinty, have been virtually ever present since the day of introduction. The LNER B12, is another example. The 3F disappeared in the early 70s, only to reappear years later, in the Thomas range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted January 10, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2018 Perhaps an early indication that modellers preferred higher fidelity models with concealed motors and full backhead detail in the cab? The same point could be made about all Tri-ang locos. So why the early demise of the 3F? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Does anyone know the reason why Triang Hornby went from Super 4 track to Series 6 track, was there ever a super/system/series 5 track? TIA Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 There was a system 5, but 6 was one louder.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
28XX Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Super 4 track is very close to scale sleeper spacing for 4mm : 1ft. The rail is of course deeper than code 100. I suspect that system 6 was an attempt to challenge Peco on one hand, and to achieve economies of scale by making one track for UK and European markets on the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Does anyone know the reason why Triang Hornby went from Super 4 track to Series 6 track, was there ever a super/system/series 5 track? I'm pretty sure that is in vol.2 of Pat Hammond's books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Fleece 30 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) There was a system 5, but 6 was one louder.... I have never heard of or seen the system 5. There was the original Grey track that only fitted one way, called Universal for some reason soon, followed by the Standard Grey, this was followed by the open sleepered black Series 3 and then onto Super 4 in brown. All those had the rails offset from each other, that is one rail was in line with the front of the fishplate on the other. Everyone else (or most) all had rail ends in line so I guess that is why system 6 came out which matched the old Dublo, Peco, Lima etc. In its initial stage it did have an end half sleeper that locked onto the next section of track but that was soon dropped. The interlocking of sleepers, or twin prongs, did help prevent the accidental opening of the track if accidentally kicked/pulled etc which was not a bad thing for small children. From the Tri-ang site here is the universal system. Adapters were made to enable Standard fit to the universal as per photo. Garry Edited January 10, 2018 by Golden Fleece 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 There was no actual Series 5 track, for some reason unknown it changed to System 6 before production started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Notice the maroon one has metal tyred tender wheels to help date it. As already mention, the maroon one has been messed around with, the tender wheels should be plastic. Even more interesting, apparently it was released as 43620 in BR maroon with late crest in 66/7 but never seen one like that. There is doubt that it was ever produced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 The Tri-ang locomotives ran very well with their X04 motors. Tri-ang also made some railway buildings to enhance the layouts. Rovex and later Tri-ang developed the buildings from some balsa wood models made by an artist called Joe Hunt at his cottage in Godalming. The pictures show the engine shed, water tower, signal box and footbridge displayed at the South Dorset Modellers meeting at Winterborne Kingston Village Hall last night. I've always liked the original Tri-ang buildings, which although far from being scale models are very, well, railway-like and purposeful. I have a complete set stashed away in my parents' loft along along with the rest of my 'Tri-ang 1957' collection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 There was no actual Series 5 track, for some reason unknown it changed to System 6 before production started. Thanks for the replies guys Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Perhaps an early indication that modellers preferred higher fidelity models with concealed motors and full backhead detail in the cab? Maybe, but there was none of that available back then (unless you built it yourself or had plenty of money to pay someone else). The 3F is a far better model than the Princess in any case, even allowing for her numerous errors. She is at least roughly the right size.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) How interesting, just picked up a nice 3f with mk2 couplings and a dock shunter. Triang Hornby book says mk3s were introduced in 1959 so both these must come from 1958 when they were both released. Well i guess some of us find that interesting!!! IMG20180110225854.jpg IMG20180110225729.jpg Yes both were launched with the Mk. II coupling, in time for Xmas 1957 IIRC. I remember I wanted one as the prototypes clanked past our back garden. The Midland Railway version (in passenger livery!) appeared around 1965. I don't know when it was withdrawn, but the model is still around as 'James'. 'Thomas' removed the rather nice LBSCR E2 from the range. There's a rather horrible version going the rounds at present marked LBSC on the tanks in green for some strange reason. Now I know green is the correct colour for locomotives. but.... Edited January 10, 2018 by Il Grifone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I always thought Series 5 was intended to be the Tri-ang version of the 2 rail Dublo track, but it was decided to run the range down (It showed up their own inferior product I suppose). Of course this is my assumption and could well not be the case. In the end about the only thing to be adopted was the Dublo wheel and track standards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 At that time, Triang was selling better than HD (hence Triang buying out HD rather than the other way round!). So in that case, from a commercial point of view, winding down HD made sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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