The Bigbee Line Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 (edited) Good morning, I am sorting out some parts to build a Southern Region Push Pull set and have several brake ends from the Tri-ang Clerestory coaches. I have seen some vans on the background of various pictures, panelled sides, duckets etc, some in the middle and some with duckets on each end. It got me wondering as to what happened to the pre-gouping (LSWR, LBSC & SECR) NPCCS. The large number of Southern PMV and CCT's probably spelled their doom. Any pointers to books etc would be appreciated. Edited December 26, 2016 by The Bigbee Line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted December 26, 2016 Author Share Posted December 26, 2016 (edited) Continued from: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/100221-Hornby-announce-sr-58-maunsell-rebuilt-ex-lswr-coaches/page-28 The ends of the coach trimmed and a second roof cut down in height. Looking quite the part now. I think I will use a full width piece of plasticard between the sides with the gutter on top of that, then the roof section on top of that. With a few cut outs a lighting strip of LEDs could sit within the roof. Final job for today was to add some 'goo' to the inside of the join in the sides. Let's see what can be done tomorrow... Edited December 26, 2016 by The Bigbee Line 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I have been contemplating a 2NOL from Triang clerestories (with Roxey ends) myself - can I ask what the cast ends that you have are please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 Here is a picture of the cast white metal ends I'm using: With the 2-NOL it will need thinning down at the sides as the NOL looks quite slim... The wiper will go as well. I was toying with the idea of using a 2-BIL underframe... Maybe using the Ratio Midland Compartment sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I don't know if its in the current Roxey list, but they do do an SR 'standard' push-pull end cast in whitemetal, but I know there is stock because I've seen a big box or them in Dave's workshop - I guess they date from the plasticard pressed coach kits era? Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 I don't know if its in the current Roxey list, but they do do an SR 'standard' push-pull end cast in whitemetal, but I know there is stock because I've seen a big box or them in Dave's workshop - I guess they date from the plasticard pressed coach kits era? Jon Thanks, I've got a PP end and three ordinary coach ends, has these for .... years, living in a box with ratio coach sides for such a project.... Still might get a few more as Southern Push Pull sets have an attraction of their own... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 I needed some first compartments for the project and got a couple of bargain coaches from Ebay. They arrived yesterday. I was surprised by how crisp the mouldings were, even more surprised when I looked underneath. Made in China.... Are they the original moulds, or did they re-do the tooling? What set are these from? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 A copy of 'An Illustrated History of Southern Push-Pull Stock' by Mike King was delivered to my waiting hands. Gosh what a complicated subject.... Numerous possibilities. I placed the Tri-ang Clerestories on the scanner to allow some cut and shut to see how various diagrams could be constructed using these as the core of the body. Here is a 46'6" diagram 33 Driving Corridor Composite, and a 58' diagram 417 Compartment Third. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Progress is slow. I joined 2 roof sections together. Made a bit of a hash and will need to do a bit of filling. My supply of plasticard arrived and I set too adding a ceiling section to the roof. The piece sticking out will represent the gutter and be trimmed to reduce its size. A thin 6 inch steel rule was used as a fence to slice off some of the excess width. I'll probably ise something thinner and a sanding block for the final trim... Here the combined roof and ceiling section. I need to wait until the join is nicely set, then file the inside of the roof to take the end section. The nearby Hornby body is my example used as a guide Here is my 'paint' impression of the piece to be added to locate the roof correctly between the sides. It all looks very rough when enlarged in these pictures. I have torpedo vents and some buffers on the way. More progress hopefully over the weekend. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Made in China.... Are they the original moulds, or did they re-do the tooling? What set are these from? Perhaps, from the Anglian set [with the B12?]...used to be had cheap from Argos? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Perhaps, from the Anglian set [with the B12?]...used to be had cheap from Argos? Yes, I think you are correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 Slow but steady progress.. I had a thought about creating straight ends on the Triang Clerestory coaches. How about leaving the top straight part and splicing in another straight section from a previously removed body.. Here is the bottom section cut out with a rotary saw blade.. Trying the spare section for size... Ready for gluing Side view of trial run Clamped up in position to set No coaches were harmed in this program.. Seriously, Not sure how this will come out. One thing that has struck me, is how the pictures I take show things I cannot see normally. So I'm working on the premis that its better to crack on and get the coach finished. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 The actual type testing coach will have scratch built ends. The ceiling section to the roof has had the gutter reduced in size to mirror the Hornby LSWR roof profile. An end of 20thou sheet has been cemented in place with some partitions. Need to get the roof squared up and the ends done. I've a BA bolt to secure the roof triang style, just need to captivate the nut to the roof section. There are metal Romford Coach Wheels to add, will need pick ups for lights. That's it for tonights session. Sorry for the untidy bench 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Not much today, just some end trimming. The use of the surplus coach ends seems to offer some possibilities, now need to do some more sanding: Edited January 11, 2017 by The Bigbee Line 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 Cold today, but had an hour in the workshop. I recently purchased some headstocks (buffer beams) from Peters Spares, look good for my coaches... I also decided to create a 10 compartment third from the compartment ends of the Clerestories brakes. Joined together these equate to a 60 coach. Will probably use the CCT roof sections.. A cruel close up of the joint, no filling as yet. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Just wondering how these are getting along? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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