RMweb Gold Popular Post Graham_Muz Posted September 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2016 A number of factors have led to me considering the possibility of producing a simple and small shunting puzzle layout to keep me entertained, be able to operate at home and possibly exhibit without the need for such a large operating crew and logistics.Firstly, I do not have the space to have Fisherton Sarum completely set up at home.Secondly, the arrival of the excellent Model Rail Magazine commissioned USA Tanks, and already having a kit built Adams B4, got me thinking about knocking up a quick dock / quayside type scene, but obviously not based directly on a specific Southampton Dock location, I did mention earlier my issue with space… Hence the name of Canute Road Quay to maintain a Southampton’ish identity.I have often enjoyed operating (‘playing with’) shunting puzzle layouts usually based on the classic ‘Inglenook’ design. For Canute Road Quay I have decided that I have approximately 4ft x 1ft of space in which I can fit an adaptation of the slightly larger than the ‘Inglenook’ puzzle the ‘Timesaver’. This includes the addition of a small run around loop.I am also allowing for the top left line to exit through to a hidden single cassette (utilising the same foot long locomotive cassettes that I use on Fisherton Sarum) to allow for more operation and stock changing. The very front edge of the layout will be modelled as a dockside wall and the siding at the top right will be a small loco shed albeit single road and in semi low relief, being a sub shed of, and a similar look to the one actually at Southampton Docks.The other two shorter sidings / headshunts will be just about able to hold 3 off box vans and a small shunting loco such the USA Tank or Adams B4. I will on the whole be remaining in my usual 1946 to 1949 Southern Railway time period; but will allow for the occasional change in era/area (perhaps the odd industrial loco)!I will use a Tim Horn laser cut baseframe to result in a professional looking letter box type presentation with a built in front lighting pelmet.Buildings, for simplicity and quickness will be a mixture of modified Ready-to-Plonk resin low relief type warehouses as the backdrop at the left hand rear, some laser cut versions for the buildings acting as scenic breaks towards the front a at least one scratchbuilt such as the engine shed. Trackwork will be a mixture of open sleepered and inset track as seen around such docks / quays to give some variety to the surfaces.As procurement of track, baseframe and some of the buildings has already commenced watch this space for more updates… Further information on Canute Road Quay can also be found on my blog at www.grahammuz.com 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Sounds interesting Graham, nothing wrong with the odd Bulleid backing some wagons in either. I spent a lot of time on the Dockside in Southampton when I lived down there, and there's a lot of atmosphere to had in a small area. All the best with this project. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted September 17, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 17, 2016 I was wondering if a smaller port might make a more convincing location (ahem, Poole, for instance ). The B4 could fit in for your time period, I think. But it wouldn't allow for prototypical use of a USA tank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted September 17, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2016 Hi Ian By choosing Canute Road I am invisaging an older much smaller less developed Quay location slightly north of the main docks on the River Itchen rather than River Test somewhere around where the Ocean Village development is now. The enables the justification of the USA tanks as a turn from the main docks. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted September 17, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 17, 2016 The Ocean Village area was originally the oldest part of the Old Docks, comprising a number of docks and basins that have mostly been filled in, so in your period both USA and B4 classes would have worked that area. Some of the privately owned wharfs and quays on the Itchen were rail served by tramways off the main line and your layout could easily represent a fictitious version of one of those. Some used their own locos so could justify a loco shed (and a suitable loco), while also using SR/BR power (probably B4s). I look forward to developments. Pete 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted September 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) . Edited November 12, 2016 by 4630 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted September 17, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 17, 2016 A now ex-webber was planning a Dibles Wharf based layout a few years ago: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/40977-corralls-coal-depot-in-stmarys-southampton/ . Now retired, I no longer have access to the Council's GIS mapping resources for historic track plans of the Itchen Quays but on-line resources are available. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I think harbour lines have a unique attraction. The South Coast had numerous examples, big and small. The Britain from Above website has lots of inspirational images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted September 18, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2016 I should be collecting the laser cut baseboard components from Tim Horn at scaleforum next weekend so things are moving along, better go and buy some good quality wood glue and paint now. I've still to decide whether the final colour of the front fascia will be black or dark green... any thoughts? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 My thought is a Matt dark grey or Matt black. On the premis that these are absorbing colours and won't draw your eye. Your choice though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted September 18, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 18, 2016 Dark green, with cream lining, of course... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted September 18, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2016 I should be collecting the laser cut baseboard components from Tim Horn at scaleforum next weekend so things are moving along, better go and buy some good quality wood glue and paint now. I've still to decide whether the final colour of the front fascia will be black or dark green... any thoughts? Chocolate and cream is a nice combination Graham... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted September 18, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2016 Thanks for the replies so far (well most of them mentioning no names...Rob...) I was already leaning towards black, one thing it won't be is the muddy brown and dirty white suggestion... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted September 18, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) I have a USA Tank on order with the intention of building something pretty similar, so I'll be watching how this develops. I was drawing inspiration from 'Southern Rails on Southampton Docks: Including the Industrial Lines Of Southampton' by Ian Drummond and published by Holne Publishing. Mine, provisionally called 'Dibles Wharf', will be set slightly further up stream along the River Itchen, between the site of the former floating bridge which was replaced by the current Itchen Bridge, and the area now occupied by St Mary's Stadium. A weathered BR late-liveried USA Tank, a green 07 and something industrial will 'float my boat'. http://www.southern-images.co.uk/lightbox/gallery/333-0.html http://www.wimrail.org.uk/mag/Corkscrew054.pdf Edited September 18, 2016 by PhilH 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted September 19, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2016 Thanks for the replies so far (well most of them mentioning no names...Rob...) I was already leaning towards black, one thing it won't be is the muddy brown and dirty white suggestion... It's got to be green of some shade, Graham. Either that, or Crimson Lake? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Black with sunshine lettering of course... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted September 20, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2016 Maybe surprisngly to some I am leaning towards black facias rather than green. I am looking forward to picking up the Tim Horn baseboard components at the weekend but not sure yet if that will be Saturday or Sunday, so it is the latter then assembly might have to wait for a further week or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted September 22, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2016 Black with Sunshine lettering works well on the late John Lewis' layout 'Orestone Quay' (http://www.burgesshillmrc.org.uk/orestone-quay), which has a similar theme and period... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted September 24, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2016 Well I collected an approximately 4ft long by 1ft wide parcel from that very nice Tim Horn http://www.timhorn.co.uk/ at Scaleforum today. We also discussed the ability of him to produce a matching / mating cantilever board set at the right height to match my existing cassettes for the left hand end so will be emailing him the depth information and ordering this week. I hope to open the parcle tomorrow and might even be able to apply some glue to some of the mating parts, so watch this space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted September 24, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 24, 2016 I'm thinking you need an excuse to run an H class on a dock layout... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted September 27, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2016 Last weekend I took the opportunity to visit the excellent Scaleforum exhibition and collect from Tim Horn the kit of laser cut parts for the 4ft x 1ft main baseboard for this project. Tim classifies this design as a ‘Scenic/Photo plank board’ which includes the rear and side backscenes boards and top fascia. This is the first time that I have used Tim’s laser cut board components and all I can say is ‘wow’ and that I totally recommend them.Tim can supply his baseboards with either with MDF or birch ply tops, the later being my chosen option. The quality and fit of each of the components is excellent and results in a very simple assembly using only wood glue, a small number of screws and a few clamps. Including allowing time for glue to cure between stages assembly was completed without rushing in a few hours last Sunday. It certainly makes things easier for someone like me whom carpentry is not really my thing. The result is a totally square, robust, lightweight, professional looking baseboard assembly, that now awaits a coat of white primer, including the underneath, to seal it all around, followed by a matt black top coat coat to the front, side and rear fascias. Tim also includes a single piece 3mm ply fascia to go on to the front to cover all the tab joints, giving a totally smooth final finish, which I have yet to affix. More information and a couple more pictures can be found on my blog here https://grahammuz.com/2016/09/27/the-baseboard-for-canute-road-quay-takes-shape/ 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted September 27, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2016 A little sneak preview of things to come, with items just temporarily positioned for now prior to baseboard painting... More information at https://grahammuz.com/category/canute-road-quay/ 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ELTEL Posted September 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2016 Hi Graham Looking good I am looking for a excuse to build yet another layout using a Tim Horn baseboard. What are the internal length and depth of the one you have purchased. Terry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alant Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Looking good Graham. I am considering an O gauge micro with Tim Horn baseboards as my next project. Will follow this with interest. Alan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted September 27, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2016 Hi Graham Looking good I am looking for a excuse to build yet another layout using a Tim Horn baseboard. What are the internal length and depth of the one you have purchased. Terry Hi Terry The external dimensions are exactly 4ft x 1ft deep with the internal dimensions being 12mm less to account for the 6mm birch ply sides. This size is of his 'scenic / photo plank module' is not listed on his website yet as they are listed as being either L/H or R/H 2ft x 1ft modules but I asked Tim if he could produce a single 4ft version which he duly and kindly did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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