RMweb Gold Popular Post Ruston Posted June 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) There does appear to be quite some interest in the 48DS so here's a rivet-counter's guide to the type. All photos are from my collection and are Ruston & Hornsby official photos, taken by their photographer in Lincoln works and on site at customers' premises. Before locos were given the classification of DS (diesel shunter - standard gauge) and DL (diesel locomotive - narrow gauge), all Ruston locos were classified by horsepower. The progenitor of the 48DS was the 44/48HP type. The first was w/n 177530, built in 1936 and supplied to H.J. Heinz for their Willesden works. How many millions of baked beans would have been hauled by this loco? The frames, running gear and brake gear were the same as subsequent locos but the engine covers and fuel tank were based on narrow gauge practice. The first production 44/48HP loco was w/n 182148, built in 1937 and supplied to H. Newsum, Sons & Co. Ltd, joinery and moulding manfrs. of Lincoln. It is seen here in the Boultham works yard before final finishing and delivery. The cab is similar to the previous loco but the new engine covers are an all-new design. Note how thin the buffer shanks and their tapered housings are when compared to later locos with their parallel buffers. Another 44/48HP loco, w/n 186309, built in 1937 and delivered to British Electro-Metalurgical Co. Ltd. for their Wincobank (Sheffield) works. Seen here at Wincobank. in 1941 the new classification system was introduced and these locos became 48DS. The engines were Rustons' own 4VRO unit and the cab was redesigned. The wheel diameter was previously 2ft. 3in. although 2ft. 6in. could be specified but from now on 2ft. 6in. would be the standard. Here we have w/n 235514, built in 1945 and delivered to The Anderston Foundry at Port Clarence. The block buffers were a special fitting and most had sprung buffers. Note the lining of black and cream. In 1946 the VRO engine was replaced by the VRH, which had redesigned cylinder heads, aluminium alloy pistons and a higher running speed. Externally the cab was redesigned to be enclosed. The lining was also changed to cream and light green. Here we have an unidentified 48DS of the late 1940s, pictured in the works yard at Lincoln. Note that the sign-written RUSTON on the front has been replaced by a cast aluminium plate. w/n 402808, built 1956 and delivered to Harrison Bros. Atlas Foundry in Middlesborough. Slight visual changes are the replacement of the Ruston crests (transfers) on the cabsides by cast RH plates. Also, the windows fore and aft have a rubber beading to hold them in instead of a metal frame. The cab side windows are now of the drop variety. Note the deeper buffer beam and how the pattern of lining has changed. w/n 411318, built in 1957 for Middlesborough Estates Ltd. Cargofleet timber yard. Internally, the VRH engines had been replaced by the all-new 4YCL units. The buffers are a special fitting. If people are interested I could do something similar for the 88Ds type... Edited January 2, 2023 by Ruston 39 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turin 60 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Thank you very much for posting this "Ruston". John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 A most interesting and informative thread. It also imparts a charm to the locos that I had not really appreciated before. Thanks Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Interesting, thanks Would be interested in any other similar types as threads in a similar manner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Young Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Thanks Ruston, much appreciated, there's something rather appealing about small Rustons for me. Are there any drawings for w/n 177530 as it looks rather tempting. Forgive my ignorance, but is there a decent O gauge kit for the 48DS? Thanks, Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted June 19, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 19, 2016 Mr Ruston's own little book on the 48 & 88DS class is well worth finding for drawings [though not of 1177530 but the production locos] photos & data. Andrew Neales' Ruston loco album is glossily produced with more photos, was being discounted at Loughborough yrsterday. Impetus did a now unobtainable kit in Gauge 0, Electifying Trains produce one which had mixed reviews on price & build [search this site]. Judith Edge probably will do one and Little Loco Co. are heavily hinting at a RTR version for Christmas! So everyone will have one. Try finding afull size one - they tend to be shunted into obscure sidings. Dava 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Young Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Thanks Dava, I have a small book on the narrow gauge Rustons, but will look out for Ruston's book and I must get round to buying a copy of Andrew Neale's. Think that it was a review for the Electrifying Trains version that I've read and wasn't tempted to try and build one after reading it! In the absence of the Impetus one, hopefully Judith Edge will bring theirs out in 7mm scale and as for an rtr one, will believe any rumours when a model is confirmed. Cheers, Andrew 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium decauville1126 Posted June 19, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 19, 2016 In the absence of the Impetus one, hopefully Judith Edge will bring theirs out in 7mm scale and as for an rtr one, will believe any rumours when a model is confirmed. I think (?) that Mike Edge intimated as much on his thread some while back so hopefully he may spot this thread comment and be able to confirm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted June 19, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 19, 2016 I would definitely appreciate a similar thread for the 88DS, I have one to build. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ruston Posted June 19, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19, 2016 Thanks Ruston, much appreciated, there's something rather appealing about small Rustons for me. Are there any drawings for w/n 177530 as it looks rather tempting. Forgive my ignorance, but is there a decent O gauge kit for the 48DS? Thanks, Andrew I have a small General Arrangement drawing of 177530 in one of my Ruston sales leaflets. I'll scan it and post it here when I have the time. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Young Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 I have a small General Arrangement drawing of 177530 in one of my Ruston sales leaflets. I'll scan it and post it here when I have the time. That would be great thank you, no rush. Just a very eye catching loco, to me at any rate. Cheers, Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ruston Posted July 23, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) 177530, taken from Ruston & Hornsby sales leaflet No.7216 of 1936. The drawing shows the front to be flat but picures in the same leaflet show the rounded header tank, as seen earlier, so it can't have remained in th as drawn state for long. Edited July 23, 2016 by Ruston 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Young Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Thank you very much, most useful. Shall print out a copy providing you have no objection? Many thanks, Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Dread Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 There is one these locos for sale on e-bay. Ruston Hornsby 4WDM 88ds Locomotive at a buy it now price of £5000. Buyer collects! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Young Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 There is one these locos for sale on e-bay. Ruston Hornsby 4WDM 88ds Locomotive at a buy it now price of £5000. Buyer collects! This is in the wrong thread, this ones about 48DS locos not the 88DS and if you look, there's already a thread about the loco for sale under the title '12 inches to the foot 88DS anyone?' Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastworld Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 A useful topic for when I eventually constuct my A1 kit Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Frankly, I am surprised that noone has done a 3D print or used that to make masters for a urethane or whitemetal kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Frankly, I am surprised that noone has done a 3D print or used that to make masters for a urethane or whitemetal kit. Started, but then the je 4mm kit came out with rumours of 7mm enlargement, then other rumours of 7mm rtr, so I decided not to bother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krusty Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 rumours of 7mm rtr Hope not. My wallet would never forgive me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastworld Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Frankly, I am surprised that noone has done a 3D print or used that to make masters for a urethane or whitemetal kit. Two etched brass kits available so no real need (assuming A1 is still available?) Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_tyne Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Thanks for this Ruston, it is absolutely fascinating. The 48ds is my favourite locomotive of all time and I'm keeping everything crossed that, following some hints, a 7mm scale RTR example is going to appear in the not too distant future!! I cannot wait if the rumour is going to materialise...! Thanks again, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium pete_mcfarlane Posted August 19, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 19, 2016 Frankly, I am surprised that noone has done a 3D print or used that to make masters for a urethane or whitemetal kit. I'm building the A1 etched one at the moment, and it's a bit of a tight squeeze getting a motor (Mashima 1015), gearbox and flywheel inside the loco without too much of it showing. There's about 1mm clearance around the flywheel (I take my hat off to the chap who built the 2mm finescale one in the MRJ a few years back). I'd imagine it would be a lot harder to fit the innards in to a whitemetal or resin loco, as the thicker side walls of the casting would leave a lot less room. I suppose you could stick in on a Spud, but the wheelbase would be too long and the performance wouldn't be great. Having said this, there are 2mm/3mm versions of Shapeways, by Etched Pixels. https://www.shapeways.com/product/YNF9TTTRV/ruston-48ds-n-scale-about-6-quot-1mm-wider-than-acc?optionId=5604275 https://www.shapeways.com/product/UYWBJLEH8/48ds-shunter-in-3mm-1-100-scale?optionId=12942357 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 I would think that would be a prime candidate for the NWSL "Magic Carpet Drive" unit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_tyne Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 I would think that would be a prime candidate for the NWSL "Magic Carpet Drive" unit. Hi Martin, Looks interesting... have you any more information on this unit? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 http://www.nwsl.com/uploads/chap2_web_09-15.pdf The Magic carpet drive appears to be O gauge only..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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