RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted September 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 28, 2021 23 hours ago, Donington Road said: The new pavement and road is a bad design IMO. The old footpath coming from the Glinton direction was continuous to the footpath going down to Davids Close. The present layout forces pedestrians, often with small children and pushchairs off the footpath near the grassed area and into the road, which at that point has no dropped kerb and where some inconsiderate cyclists are going at speed down the long slope. An accident waiting to happen. The narrow footpath from Lincoln Road to Davids Close needs to be made wider to cater for both cyclists and pedestrians, with a raised section for pedestrians. The raised section can then be connected to the old bridge and the footpath made continuous across the two bridges by removing all the grassed areas and strips of pyramid paving. A short angled barrier between the pedestrian part and cycle part at the junction of Davids Close/Lincoln Road bridge would direct the cyclists to the road and pedestrians to the footpath. Although I think this would be better, there is still the issue of the very dangerous drop from the high footpath across the bridges. Another solution would be to raise the road surface so that it is at a normal height to the adjacent footpath. This could be done by closing the present narrow path to Davids Close and extending the road and footpath 50 to 100 metres further down the old Lincoln Road to join Davids Close. Extending the length of the road would make the incline of building up the road surface less obtrusive. Do these designers actually consider the routes that the future users are likely to wish to take? I spent 40+ years designing similar schemes, and the first thing that I considered were the 'desire lines' for the various categories of road users. I despair !! CJI. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 36 minutes ago, cctransuk said: Do these designers actually consider the routes that the future users are likely to wish to take? I spent 40+ years designing similar schemes, and the first thing that I considered were the 'desire lines' for the various categories of road users. I despair !! CJI. The general public will always take the shortest route possible irrespective of obstacles put in their way. I can understand the need to have the water pipes either side of the bridges to distribute the weight. What I don't understand is Network Rail's idea of having these raised footpaths which go against what would be considered a health & safety issue if it was on their own site. They would have gentler steps with hand rails and warning signs for their employees so they could safely transit the area without sustaining any injury. Where do Peterborough City Council come in to this? They were insistant on a rubberised surface for the footpath/bridleway at Hurn Road for 'a horse' yet their many rate payers are being put at an unnescessary risk just to walk on a footpath with those high kerbs. It seems to me that the three players, Anglian Water, Network Rail and PCC have not liased with each other on the final design or undertaken any risk assessments. The whole thing is not user friendly for pedestrians and even more so should they fall into the disabled or blind category. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Just to give everyone an idea of what the drops are from the footpath to the road surface on the Lincoln Road bridges. Meanwhile, the entrance to the access gates at Lincoln Road is going to get a new surface. The concrete and hardcore is being removed to re-instate the path and road surface. At Cock Lane the footpath to the bridge remains closed until the end of October. I could not see any work being done on the bridge or any signs of changes to it. There were two vans from this company and a container on site. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Donington Road said: Just to give everyone an idea of what the drops are from the footpath to the road surface on the Lincoln Road bridges. That's more than enough to fall and break something. About 3 months ago my wife stumbled on level ground and fell onto her right elbow, managed to break her humerus, straight across just below the ball joint. Edited September 29, 2021 by melmerby 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, melmerby said: That's more than enough to fall and break something. About 3 months ago my wife stumbled on level ground and fell onto her right elbow, managed to break her humerus, straight across just below the ball joint. Commisserations to your wife, I bet that is still sore. Problem is as we get older we don't heal as quick. You can now see though that if you stumble on the footpath you are not going to be caught by the 200mm step but you will end up going down 440mm to the road. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Donington Road said: Commisserations to your wife, I bet that is still sore. Problem is as we get older we don't heal as quick. You can now see though that if you stumble on the footpath you are not going to be caught by the 200mm step but you will end up going down 440mm to the road. Thanks for your commiserations Mick. Yes, she has been in the wars the last 5 or 6 years, having broken bones 3 times and had a stroke as well, which didn't help her mobility. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted September 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 29, 2021 Perhaps the issue should be raised with your local councillor. Jonathan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGNorthern Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 On 29/09/2021 at 16:54, corneliuslundie said: Perhaps the issue should be raised with your local councillor. Jonathan Interestingly and what I didn't realise is that the ward boundary follows the railway, so the north half of the bridge is in the Glinton and Castor Ward and the south half is in the Werrington Ward. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crun Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) Sunday 3rd October Best weather of the weekend. Views from on and around the Hurn Road bridge A mystery, locked skip. Rusty rails under the bridge. Pools of water everywhere. Smaller heaps of earth. The new approach or service road under construction: Edited October 3, 2021 by Crun 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crun Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) Views from around the A15 bridge. More railings in yellow and green: Edited October 3, 2021 by Crun 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crun Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) Views from and around the Lincoln Road bridge. Not much more to do on the surface. Am I mistaken? Edited October 3, 2021 by Crun 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) There is something going on in the field to the north of Hurn Road, opposite to where the entrance to the dive under site is. No one was available there to ask what was happening but some photos. This was the field back in March with mounds of spoil and other debris with the contractors access road to the A15 . Aerial view by MGNorthern at the beginning of September shows the field outlined in red. The spoil and debris had all gone by then and the field has been levelled. All that remained were an accumulation of skips, signs, fencing and storage containers from the main dive under site on the other side of Hurn Road. Where the yellow line is in the above photo a small section of hedgerow has been grubbed out and a section of chain link fence installed a couple of weeks ago. There were a couple of lorries there this afternoon with what looked like new/refurbished Portakabin's like the blue one. In the field itself there were two dumpers, a dozer and an excavator moving soil about and piling it up behind the hedgerow along Hurn Road. It seemed odd that there was a very large pool of water in the middle of the field when it had been levelled out previously. Looking at the amount of soil being removed perhaps the 'pond' has been dug out on purpose. Edited October 6, 2021 by Donington Road 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crun Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) Saturday 9th October Best weather of the weekend today. Views from Lincoln Road: Edited October 9, 2021 by Crun 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crun Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) Views from Hurn Road. All dried out. There was a bulldozer working this morning. Bulldozer levelling the soil to the right of the digger: Edited October 9, 2021 by Crun 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Crun said: Saturday 9th October Views from Lincoln Road: Wonder how long before those gates are bent and don’t shut properly? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crun Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, ess1uk said: Wonder how long before those gates are bent and don’t shut properly? There will be further tarmac layers for the gate to be supported and locked into I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Crun said: Views from Hurn Road: I suppose there are logical answers somewhere to this mystery entrance and the build up of storage units in a field that is supposedly being put back to agricultral use. I wonder why they need to create a new entrance when there is an existing one no more than ten yards away? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 55 minutes ago, Crun said: There will be further tarmac layers for the gate to be supported and locked into I think. Railway gates never close properly in my experience 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 09/10/2021 at 19:19, ess1uk said: Railway gates never close properly in my experience Due to too many ferroequinologists swinging on them. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crun Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Donington Road said: Due to too many ferroequinologists swinging on them. "ferroequinologists" I had to look that one up! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Crun said: "ferroequinologists" I had to look that one up! Fairly easy really; Ferro = Iron, Equin = Horse, ologist = studier, i.e. a Birdwatcher 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Stiil no access to Cock Lane until the end of the month so no updates in that area or from the main site. There was a change looking towards the north portal of the dive under from Hurn Road that happened at the beginning of the month. This was the scene on the 16th of September with the large pumps and the water pipe that diverted water around and across the north portal. As seen today, the pumps and pipework had all gone by the beginning of this month. I assume the water now goes directly into the siphon on the eastern side to be pumped under track level to the western siphon where it is discharged to Brook Drain. Not much else happening at Hurn Road apart from a long boom excavator cutting what appeared to be drainage channels on the northern bank. This a photo from a video clip. The gang on the tracks had been cutting and welding the tracks to stress relieve them. I only managed to catch up with them as they were re-clipping the track in place. This excavator was sieving the large lumps of dirt out to leave a fine grade of topsoil. The new entrance from the site to the field opposite was about to get a layer of hard chippings. I manage to speak to a chap as to why they were creating a new entrance. He said in the broadest Irish accent I have ever heard that it was a safer entrance for the workers to enter as pedestrians. Asking again why the wide entrance that was capable of vehicle access was being created he just went on again about it being better for safety. Either he did not understand me and I could not understand his accent so I gave up! 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 The entrance off Lincoln Road for Glinton Junction has kerbing beyond the gate across the access road, suggesting that the surface there maybe concrete with tarmac beyond to join up with the existing road alongside the railway. Whatever the farmer drilled in his reclaimed field has soon sprouted and greened up, probably winter wheat. 10 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crun Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) Thursday 14th October Views from Lincoln Road bridge: Edited October 14, 2021 by Crun 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crun Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) Rolling and levelling. Views from Hurn Road: Edited October 14, 2021 by Crun 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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