Cornish freight identification

[The Pilotman]

Good morning,

 

I recently came across this short YouTube clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxW4X4HPtsU showing various freight trains in Cornwall. To anyone who knows about Cornish freight traffic it is obvious what some of the trains are but a few are less clear. So, can any of you Cornish experts identify what these three trains are:

 

1) 0:45 Class 66 on a lengthy rake of empty PGAs at Lostwithiel

2) 1:50 Class 37 on what looks like empty scrap wagons of some kind, also at Lostwithiel

3) 2:10 Class 47 on some sort of bogie tank (?) wagon, location unknown.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks.

[Fat Controller]

Good morning,

 

I recently came across this short YouTube clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxW4X4HPtsU showing various freight trains in Cornwall. To anyone who knows about Cornish freight traffic it is obvious what some of the trains are but a few are less clear. So, can any of you Cornish experts identify what these three trains are:

 

1) 0:45 Class 66 on a lengthy rake of empty PGAs at Lostwithiel

2) 1:50 Class 37 on what looks like empty scrap wagons of some kind, also at Lostwithiel

3) 2:10 Class 47 on some sort of bogie tank wagon, location unknown.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks.

Neither Cornish nor expert but perhaps :-

Sand from Burngullow to Bow

Scrap from St Blazey to Cardiff

Fuel oil for Ponsadane

[The Pilotman]

The first two sound plausible, not sure about your third suggestion. They don't look like fuel tanks to me.

[Fat Controller]

The first two sound plausible, not sure about your third suggestion. They don't look like fuel tanks to me.

Looking at the third train, I'd say those are bogie hoppers of some kind, rather than tanks; china clay for Staffordshire and Mossend, perhaps? The scrap wagons are an empty working.

[Glorious NSE]

The ones behind the 47 aren't tanks, they are covered hoppers. JIA's in the 33-70-9292-2xx-x series, previously in Cerestar traffic, latterly worked for IMERYS.

After going off-lease from IMERYS Cotswold Rail moved them to Long Marston for storage (where I think they still reside?) - which is the move recorded in the video.

Found a photo of the move: https://www.flickr.com/photos/129566999@N08/16148530418



 

[Mark Saunders]

The Advenza/Cotswold 47 is on a train of the former Tiphook powder hoppers that were used for ball clay traffic! Do these wagons still exist as some were cut up at Stockton about ten years ago!

 

Mark Saunders

[Glorious NSE]

The Advenza/Cotswold 47 is on a train of the former Tiphook powder hoppers that were used for ball clay traffic! Do these wagons still exist as some were cut up at Stockton about ten years ago!

As above, at least some were at Long Marston more recently than that. (In fact, the pictured move to Long Marston is less than ten years ago...)