drmditch Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Re: Byzantium. Well, even in 1453, the inhabitants of the city regarded themselves as Roman. ('Romoi ?') And regarding law, was it not the codification of Roman law carried out under Justinian? So, an imperium which lasted for a millennium now regarded merely as a term of abuse by these short-sighted western Europeans. Perhaps we should delay this conversation for four days until the 29tb? Re: Ikea shortcuts Yes there are/were. Perhaps when it's fully open again it will be time for meatballs? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm 0-6-0 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Could I say in defence of Byzantium, and all things Byzantine, that of all the cities of this world Istanbul, formally Constantinople and before that Byzantium, is my favourite. So much history, life, variety and whatever ...... need I say more. I remember once eating a delightful lunch at a restaurant on the Bosporus, one fine late spring day while having a break before going to eastern Turkey for a period of archaeological work and looking out over the water what did I see? A ship traversing that marvellous waterway that some 12 years before I had been involved with when I was working for a shipping agency in Melbourne long before I had gained the qualifications that allowed me to be in Turkey as a paid specialist. It is a beautiful city. Truly the great cross roads of the world. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) May I recommend listening to this morning’s ‘Start the week’ on BBC R4 on iPlayer or as a Podcast or whatever about all of the above. Very illuminating. Edited May 25, 2020 by runs as required 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2020 2 hours ago, St Enodoc said: Aha! A bit like knowing where the short cuts are at IKEA then. 2 hours ago, Edwardian said: There are shortcuts?!? Yes. Shortest of them all is, don’t go. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Rixon Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Edwardian said: There are shortcuts?!? Roll against intelligence to detect magic door. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Might I refer the Honourable Gentleman to my post of April 15th and suggest he contemplate similar measures? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Buhar Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2020 In Turkey the few remaining Greek speaking citizens are still called Rum, pronounced "room". Romans. Guy, remember that Roman law and customs had faded in most of what is now western Europe. The crusaders and merchants who encountered the Byzantines were living in societies that were still feudal or just emerging from that. The rediscovery of Roman law was mainly an Enlightenment thing. However the ceremonial power games @Edwardian describes do support the pejorative adjective. Alan 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Edwardian Posted May 25, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, Guy Rixon said: Roll against intelligence to detect magic door. So, if you can find all the bits you need on the way, interpret the pictograms and assemble a door (the right way up) .... you may, indeed, escape. 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Buhar Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2020 True story. Fed up of our Ikea Glasgow experience I asked a member staff where the shortcut out was. "How long have you been in?" "About half an hour." "Sorry Pal, that's not long enough, I can't tell you." Alan 2 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Variation on Edwardian’s idea: simply step through one of the very many wardrobes, and emerge in Narnia, which isn’t where you want to be (home), but is better than Ikea. 5 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2020 26 minutes ago, Nearholmer said: Variation on Edwardian’s idea: simply step through one of the very many wardrobes, and emerge in Narnia, which isn’t where you want to be (home), but is better than Ikea. But if the demo wardrobe had been incorrectly assembled, you might end up in Aeki, and then where would you be? Decreasing sound of running footsteps.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2020 I think we may have gone to an Ikea once. It never seemed worth going again. Don 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Buhar said: pronounced "room". Romans. Interesting: the old way of pronouncing “Rome”, before the great vowel shift. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ianathompson Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Hroth said: But if the demo wardrobe had been incorrectly assembled, you might end up in Aeki, and then where would you be? You might be in Altonia where my model layout is set. The dice throws have just shown that the connecting train from Beruna (in Narnia) which crosses the Dorsadelavestejamontoj (Back of the Wardrobe Mountains) during the night will be 10 minutes late today, quite prompt really. In the real world, unsurprisingly, there are no sophisticated retailers such as Ikea, or their like, in or anywhere near Norfolk, so I have been spared the pleasure. Ian T 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Gold teaky Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Hroth said: But if the demo wardrobe had been incorrectly assembled, you might end up in Aeki, and then where would you be? Decreasing sound of running footsteps.... ...then where would you be? I don't know but someone appears to have written a song about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds8q3pfangc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Donw said: I think we may have gone to an Ikea once ....., but that was over twenty years ago, and living on meatballs and never seeing real sky becomes normal after that sort of time. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Hroth said: But if the demo wardrobe had been incorrectly assembled, you might end up in Aeki, and then where would you be? I haven't bothered to try Googling this I confess, but a year or so ago there was a lot of Social Media guff about a US site where people competed to assemble the most outrageously post-mod useless creations out of IKEA catalogue stuff. I think I recall the inspiration came from US architect Peter Eiseman's house commissioned by a Billionaire that was to be purposely designed as impossible to live in. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Nearholmer said: Variation on Edwardian’s idea: simply step through one of the very many wardrobes, and emerge in Narnia, which isn’t where you want to be (home), but is better than Ikea. The point about that wardrobe was that it was made from the wood of a tree that had its origin in Narnia. Step through an Ikea wardrobe and you will either end up in a Scandinavian spruce plantation (still better than Ikea) or in a pile of broken bits of thin MDF board, wishing you'd worn a facemask (though you might have been, under current circumstances). 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2020 Just watching Mr Cummings' press conference. I think that he has been coached by HRH The Duke of York...or perhaps POTUS. 4 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Annie Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25, 2020 2 hours ago, teaky said: ...then where would you be? I don't know but someone appears to have written a song about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds8q3pfangc Unfortunately after clicking that link I suddenly found myself thinking I couldn't understand English anymore. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Edwardian Posted May 25, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2020 3 hours ago, teaky said: ...then where would you be? I don't know but someone appears to have written a song about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds8q3pfangc She looks like she could do with an extra portion of meatballs. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, teaky said: ...then where would you be? I don't know but someone appears to have written a song about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds8q3pfangc It looked very interesting, but perhaps I should have put the sound on too... Edited May 25, 2020 by Hroth the ushul spelin thingy 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, Hroth said: It looked very interesting, but perhaps I should have put the sound on too... I'm so glad I didn't... Julian 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave John Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25, 2020 Most disappointing. I watched that video under the misguided belief that it was an Ikea piano and that it would collapse in a heap of mismatched bolts and bendy mdf in the style of the best silent movies. Oh well.... 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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