RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted March 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Compound2632 said: Be careful what you wish for. Hylas is seen here in the process of being abducted by the nymphs who will hold hold under water to prevent his lover Heracles from hearing his screams. Like many Greek myths, it's more than a little misogynistic. Ah, but what a way to go... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted March 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 08/03/2020 at 10:17, Compound2632 said: I do wonder, though: did he visit Vienna? Means nothing to me. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted March 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2020 12 hours ago, Compound2632 said: Be careful what you wish for. Hylas is seen here in the process of being abducted by the nymphs who will hold hold under water to prevent his lover Heracles from hearing his screams. Like many Greek myths, it's more than a little misogynistic. But all they wanted was a toyboy to call their own, they didn't drown him and he stayed of his own accord, being abducted by seven redheaded nymphs must have tickled his fancy. Allegedly... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Hroth said: ... all they wanted was a toyboy to call their own, they didn't drown him and he stayed of his own accord ... I say I say I say My wife has gone off to the West Indies Where? Jamaica? No she went of her own accord Now who first said that? Ned Seagoon Spike Milligan? Variants here dh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 The probably-nowadays-considered-racist version of that that I know has to be delivered in a rich faux-West Indian accent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm 0-6-0 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Hroth said: being abducted by seven redheaded nymphs must have tickled his fancy. Allegedly... I would hope, at the very least, that more than his fancy was tickled 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2020 8 hours ago, runs as required said: I say I say I say My wife has gone off to the West Indies Where? Jamaica? No she went of her own accord Now who first said that? Ned Seagoon Spike Milligan? Variants here dh A. My wife went to Indonesia. B. Jakarta? A. No, she flew like everyone else. I thank you. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2020 8 hours ago, Nearholmer said: The probably-nowadays-considered-racist version of that that I know has to be delivered in a rich faux-West Indian accent. Do tell! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2020 We're in danger of rising to the level of the Jokes thread here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmditch Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 On 09/03/2020 at 07:28, RedGemAlchemist said: Agreed. If only I could be greeted by a bevy of beautiful women in my bathroom... Not sure that the collective noun is correct. Should we not be celebrating a 'planet full' of beautiful women, who come in all ages and shapes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, drmditch said: Not sure that the collective noun is correct. Should we not be celebrating a 'planet full' of beautiful women, who come in all ages and shapes? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Edwardian Posted March 10, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2020 On 09/03/2020 at 01:49, Malcolm 0-6-0 said: Damn - I never had that reception committee the last time I took a bath. The only things I find to disapprove of, or worse still to be inappropriate, are the people who find things to disapprove of or to be inappropriate. I'm afraid we are shaping up for a period of prudery and puritanical behaviour unheard of in centuries. I suspect it's all those C pass students, who thought a major in following fashionable theories was the high point of intellectual endeavour, finally getting their revenge on those of us who took our education seriously and were able to follow our chosen careers in things much more exotic and interesting. Have you ever read the Patrick O'Brien Aubrey & Maturin novels? Jack Aubrey is an easy-going Eighteenth Century type who hasn't quite caught up with early Nineteenth Century mores. Notions of "respectability" on the part of an ascendant Middle Class together with religious Evangelism were the drivers of social distancing from the "Lower Orders" (compare O'Brien's depiction of Anson and his crew in the early Eighteenth Century), exaggerated notions of "propriety" (see Jane Austen's novels), and strict Christian morality (that led to the inhumane hypocrisy that Dickens and Wilkie Collins so loathed). Now, in the main, these early Nineteenth Century trends were not inherently bad things, and no doubt our society benefited from the comfort and charity a religious revival brings and of the civilising effect of manners, but, like everything else, there was a negative side, too. Our social and political assessments and commentaries are still hopelessly binary. We still want to say that so-and-so was either good or bad, when it's generally going to be both. With social meeja's race to the bottom to call out and excoriate crimes of expression, both real and imagined, and its platform for "virtue-signalling" prigs the world over, I feel increasingly like Jack Aubrey at times. These days tolerance, consideration and respect for others, and courtesy still go a long way, and I prefer them to badging myself with "isms", but, alas, they are insufficient to guarantee safety. What Orwell, and the rest of us, failed to predict is that, via Social Media, we would each become the other's Big Brother, constantly hunting out thought crimes and meeting out reputational death. 5 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Compound2632 said: We're in danger of rising to the level of the Jokes thread here. Its just a silly phase we're going through. 1 hour ago, drmditch said: Should we not be celebrating a 'planet full' of beautiful women, who come in all ages and shapes? In general, that's ok but if a bunch of nymphs turned up, then the grouping would certainly be a bevy! Edited March 10, 2020 by Hroth Freudian slips... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2020 Discussion about J.W. Waterhouse's Hylas and the nymphs has to deal with Henrietta Rae's painting on the same subject (prudishly linked not pasted - Wikimedia Commons), exhibited at the RA in 1910. Rae (1859 - 1928), a feminist and suffragist, counted Alma-Tadema among her teachers. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonman Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 47 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: Rae (1859 - 1928), a feminist and suffragist, counted Alma-Tadema among her teachers. Mmm, and doesn't it show! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 minute ago, wagonman said: Mmm, and doesn't it show! There's quite a lot showing though more discreetly than in Waterhouse's version; was it the feminism, suffragism, or Alma-Tademaism to which you were referring? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonman Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: There's quite a lot showing though more discreetly than in Waterhouse's version; was it the feminism, suffragism, or Alma-Tademaism to which you were referring? The latter of course... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Compound2632 said: We're in danger of rising to the level of the Jokes thread here. ????? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Hroth said: Its just a silly phase we're going through. In general, that's ok but if a bunch of nymphs turned up, then the grouping would certainly be a bevy! For those who missed it, Hroth's "Freudian slip" (or so he claims!) was: "if a bunch of nymphs turned up, then the groping would certainly be a bevy!" 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Regularity said: Freudian slip I was irremediably corrupted at the age of 17 by an A-level General Studies past paper multiple choice question that offered as one definition of Freudian slip "a garment that reveals more than it conceals". 3 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: I was irremediably corrupted at the age of 17 by an A-level General Studies past paper multiple choice question that offered as one definition of Freudian slip "a garment that reveals more than it conceals". Gosh we are straying a long way from the WNR here. Freud is alleged to have claimed “There is no such thing as a Joke” - to which Jimmy Connolly (married to a shrink) is said to have responded “That is because he never played the Glasgow Empire on a Saturday night” dh 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, runs as required said: Gosh we are straying a long way from the WNR here. Well, to get us back to at least the leveller, wetter bits of East Anglia, whilst still having Hylas' nymphs in mind, it's worth noting that they are fair-seeming relatives of that noted fenland mere-dweller, Grendel's mother. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: Well, to get us back to at least the leveller, wetter bits of East Anglia, whilst still having Hylas' nymphs in mind, it's worth noting that they are fair-seeming relatives of that noted fenland mere-dweller, Grendel's mother. And relatively 'armless to boot.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2020 I suppose in modern terms Hylas might be a rather shy young lad waylaid by a well tanked up henparty. Not speaking from experience here Henparties were not the norm when I was a young lad and groups of women would have behaved much more reserved. Don 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2020 38 minutes ago, Donw said: I suppose in modern terms Hylas might be a rather shy young lad waylaid by a well tanked up henparty. Dragged headfirst through the open window of a stretch limo, never to be seen again..... 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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