Horsetan Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) ....I am very clear about what I am ordering. Will be interesting to see what they make of the "pigs' ears" beside the main aspects. Here's the sample 2-aspect drawing which appeared elsewhere on the Forum a while ago: Edited February 10, 2016 by Horsetan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted February 11, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11, 2016 Thanks Horsetan, very helpful. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Note that the drawing has a slight error in respect of the two small blanking plates beside the main aspects. The plates should be lower, i.e. on the same level as, and directly opposite, the pig's ears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Grovenor Posted February 11, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 11, 2016 The blanking plates are in case the ears need to be fitted on the other side. Ears were replaced by 'hot strip' lenses that give a close up indication without the extra lens and housing. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted February 11, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11, 2016 Horsetan, Grovenor Many thanks for this additional information. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class156 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) Very useful info, especially the site to buy them, that can make them to a design. I'm just wanting to check, but I'm doing exactly the same here but the blue/grey period as that's my favourite livery. I'm also doing a Weymouth type tram track, harbour type track, with boat trains, water and buildings. I just love the trains and art deco buildings from that area of BR. I'm looking to replace all semaphore signals with coloured lights. My layout is based loosely on themes picked rom that period, so not any real location, though any signals around Weymouth, might help get it all looking like that area a little. Thanks Edited January 17, 2017 by class156 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) I have in the garden a Metro-vick Two aspect head. It has blanks in the casting for where the pigs ears would have gone on the earlier ones. I can give you dimensions if you want, or even better PM LNERGE who has heads with pigs ears in his garden..... Andy G Edited January 17, 2017 by uax6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Some 4mm scale LU Westinghouse signals / signal heads available from this Shapeways seller I think the distance between main aspect centres looks a bit too long in some of the "finished product" photos (so you could saw out a section to make it more compact), but otherwise they look quite convincing. The 3-aspect head is not catered for, only the 2- and 4-aspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class156 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Some 4mm scale LU Westinghouse signals / signal heads available from this Shapeways seller I think the distance between main aspect centres looks a bit too long in some of the "finished product" photos (so you could saw out a section to make it more compact), but otherwise they look quite convincing. The 3-aspect head is not catered for, only the 2- and 4-aspect. I'll have a go at changing my semaphore signal to those light signals. I'll need to see what I require first. Thanks for the advice. Without pig ears seem to be the era I'm after. I'll also look at the other links that have been posted. I'll try do an update when I get round to doing the work. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) Cobbled together a SR like signal from a Train Tech kit, plastic card, heat shrink and Peco Track Pins as photoed in the thread on my layout http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/127304-warmington/ Anyone know what font was used for the identification board? Edited December 4, 2017 by Butler Henderson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Anyone know what font was used for the identification board? Oddly enough, Ogden's Cigarettes got it about right. Their artwork must be based on a pre-WWII photo as it depicts short-hoods (replaced by long hoods as a matter of extreme urgency once night bombing raids started in 1940). http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hFyqorvd_Fs/VVLRMCCfzyI/AAAAAAABNUw/khQ5upY5kus/s1600/Southern%2BRailway%2B3%2BAspect%2BSignal%2B1930s.JPG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 5, 2017 Cobbled together a SR like signal from a Train Tech kit, plastic card, heat shrink and Peco Track Pins as photoed in the thread on my layout http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/127304-warmington/ Anyone know what font was used for the identification board? It's not just the font but also the identification letter system you need to get right as the three SR Divisions numbering systems identified which division the signal was on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 It's not just the font but also the identification letter system you need to get right as the three SR Divisions numbering systems identified which division the signal was on WW1 then for it! The kit to build WW2 fell through the postbox today, one with a left feather which will need more serious hacking and added on bits to look like those photoed earlier in the thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) It's not just the font but also the identification letter system you need to get right as the three SR Divisions numbering systems identified which division the signal was on Until about the mid-1960s, each Southern signal box with colour light signals was allocated a specific letter code which bore no resemblance to the box name, the very first codes had a single letter, then two letter codes were used, then (on the Eastern Section) a few three letter codes. Colour light signals controlled by boxes on the Eastern Section just used the appropriate letter code (noting that two or three letter codes never started with an A, C or W) followed by the lever number. Fully automatic colour light signals on the Eastern Section used the letter A followed by a number unique on the section. Colour light signals controlled by boxes on the Central and Western sections used the appropriate letter code prefixed with a C or W and followed by the lever number, there were in effect no single letter codes on these sections. Fully automatic colour light signals on these Sections used the letters CA or WA followed by a number unique on the section. Semi-automatic signals used the appropriate signal box code followed by the lever number but also carried a "SEMI" plate. Edited December 7, 2017 by bécasse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted December 5, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2017 I might be a bit late to the party but is this of interest. Brighton Line signalling. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 7, 2017 Until about the mid-1960s, each Southern signal box with colour light signals was allocated a specific letter code which bore no resemblance to the box name, the very first codes had a single letter, then two letter codes were used, then (on the Eastern Section) a few three letter codes. Colour light signals controlled by boxes on the Eastern Section just used the appropriate letter code (noting that two or three letter codes never started with an A, C or W) followed by the lever number. Fully automatic colour light signals on the Eastern Section used the letter A followed by a number unique on the section. Colour light signals controlled by boxes on the Central and Western sections used the appropriate letter code prefixed with a C or W and followed by the lever number, there were in effect no single letter codes on these sections. Fully automatic colour light signals on these Sections used the letters CA or CW followed by a number unique on the section. Semi-automatic signals used the appropriate signal box code followed by the lever number but also carried a "SEMI" plate. One minor point, a typo perchance? - Western Section automatic signals were prefixed 'WA' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 One minor point, a typo perchance? - Western Section automatic signals were prefixed 'WA' Indeed a typo, original post corrected. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I wonder how old this beast is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hughes Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 There's still a signal in Littlehampton cutting that's prefixed 'CA'. The mid-sussex line was 'CB*' and Dorking is still 'CBK' Michael 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted December 20, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 20, 2017 I wonder how old this beast is? IMG_0068.JPG That's one of the ohle structures, so is probably due a telegram from the Queen.... Andy g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2017 That's one of the ohle structures, so is probably due a telegram from the Queen.... Andy g I am struggling to recall OHLE in that location, which looks like what used to be called Durnsford Road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 That's one of the ohle structures, so is probably due a telegram from the Queen.... Andy g I dread to think how much it weighs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbowilts Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 I dread to think how much it weighs. Probably not as much as some of the modern 'elf 'n safety inspired structures! Tim T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Probably not as much as some of the modern 'elf 'n safety inspired structures! Tim T If we assume it's made from 95lb rail it should be possible to make a good guess by measuring it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 It isn't an old OHLE structure - the only ones used as signal posts were used in situ, and, although they proved long-lived, I believe that the last one (east of Clapham Junction) was replaced quite some time ago. I am not even convinced that there is very much secondhand rail in its construction, some or all of the uprights perhaps. It has all the hallmarks of having been a one-off Southern Railway design for the specific location, the detail design of the deck, for example, corresponds closely to the designs used for the mid-1930s resignalling out of Waterloo. Assuming that is the case, it was brought into use on 17 May 1936 - still a long time survivor from the Herbert Walker era, though. He certainly knew how to deliver value to the SR's shareholders (and customers). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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